Dec 14 2015, 03:04 PM
QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Dec 8 2015, 10:46 AM)
you're only addressing temperature, this is addressing fluid longevity and viscosity/friction modification.
additives have their place, in fact they are pre-added to almost all products you buy on the market.
they are just not commonly encouraged/prohibited by most oil manufacturers because they simply cannot stand behind/vouch other brands/products compatibility.
then there's the issue of cost.
For example: using amsoil signature series is way cheaper than say, motul 300v, however if i add in nanolube ws2 and liqui moly ceratec, it easily goes well over rm500 and thats easily way more expensive than motul 300v which already have very good additive package and a strong ester based base oil.
see, manufacturer specs the ATF to be serviced much longer than 20k km (even the old 1990's 3 speed autos are specced 40k km afaik), however with how conventional ATF is along with our weather/traffic jam, even 20k km may not be sufficient.
for example, my 1999 iswara 3 speed auto when using purely rm20ish/liter proton ATF(spIII), it only last until 5k ish km where i get some car "transmission morning sickness" where by it has a huge delay in shifting until the car warms up.
so upon draining, the fluid is very watery (just visual alone it looks like water as opposed to being oil and it flows rather fast as well) and is brown/black in color as opposed to deep red and smells absolutely horrible.
5k km.
lubegard alone on the same ATF can extend this to easily over 20k km and even upon draining the fluid doesn't look watery and doesn't smell as bed, and still retains the red'ish color.
I think your 3-speeder is dying. I've never had this sorta problem with mineadditives have their place, in fact they are pre-added to almost all products you buy on the market.
they are just not commonly encouraged/prohibited by most oil manufacturers because they simply cannot stand behind/vouch other brands/products compatibility.
then there's the issue of cost.
For example: using amsoil signature series is way cheaper than say, motul 300v, however if i add in nanolube ws2 and liqui moly ceratec, it easily goes well over rm500 and thats easily way more expensive than motul 300v which already have very good additive package and a strong ester based base oil.
see, manufacturer specs the ATF to be serviced much longer than 20k km (even the old 1990's 3 speed autos are specced 40k km afaik), however with how conventional ATF is along with our weather/traffic jam, even 20k km may not be sufficient.
for example, my 1999 iswara 3 speed auto when using purely rm20ish/liter proton ATF(spIII), it only last until 5k ish km where i get some car "transmission morning sickness" where by it has a huge delay in shifting until the car warms up.
so upon draining, the fluid is very watery (just visual alone it looks like water as opposed to being oil and it flows rather fast as well) and is brown/black in color as opposed to deep red and smells absolutely horrible.
5k km.
lubegard alone on the same ATF can extend this to easily over 20k km and even upon draining the fluid doesn't look watery and doesn't smell as bed, and still retains the red'ish color.
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