other countries already dropping... how can Malaysia immune only.. we are worse off with disproportionate earnings and most rich dudes are living on debts..

actually everybody also demand for the best..

but demand which does not comes with affordability means you only wish to have a property with no ability to buy it..

so demand without affordability= mere wish (everyone wish/demand for the best), this is demand meh?

the question can be answered by yourself.. does the market look healthy now with so many vacant units upon vp like 7-8 months and some 1 year?

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[quote=gogo2,Aug 1 2014, 11:02 AM]
Well, I thought all indication point point to market slow down? Then we should expect price crash and then we can BBB more!!! I don't think you want to BBB a lot now with current developer price. What you think?
Yes, you have a point there. But there would only be a price crash if there is a MARKET CRASH. This will see our ringgit value plumetting, sky high inflation rates, costs of living and also loss of business opportuinities. This will also affect our buying power unless of course you have millions of cash stack in your savings. Banks also will decline to give out loans then, how to buy?

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nvm about the buyers.. as long property market hits it reset button which it should have.. thing will work out from there.. just need longer time

not necessary the consumer need to adapt.. mb the investors can also adapt to price discounts in future.. coz many empty units and keep servicing the bank with increase interest rates and inflation ...

you really think the market are comprised of strong holding developers/sopecualtors? just wondering why bank negara need to introduce DSR then? since all are strong holding powers right?

+1... the fish now are in the hot soups, waiting potential buyers to scoop them out.. if buyers want and they dont sell high price

in fact Singapore property falls.. remember Singapore is a country of limited lands, so property should never be enough like Hong kong, Malaysia over here has many lands, we have yet to reach reclamation zone like hong kong to demonstrate the lack of lands... even then Hong Kong and Singapore property drops

if it so, care to explain why there are so many vacant units upon vp ? even with strict measures?

the fishes before cooling measures are without safeguard like DIBS & easy credits(without DSR 70%) , further more, interest rates on surge already and coming september too and also GST.. which will hit from all angle

the fishes also loses it pools of candidate wherein gov chop off the foreigner to purchase below 1 million

properties below 1 million? they are the most in d market.. making 80% of it..

prime areas developments are so expensive, where got room to speculate..these buyers are really got holding powers..

target is outskirts investors.. hehe .. cannot afford prime areas, buy outskirt la, buy property sure untung.. can flip upon vp ..

very hard to understand..

demand . stocks= high price
demand , stock= low price

have you define demand first or not?

demand not supported with affordability, actual power to buy is not a demand

it is mere wish to buy... these ppl who cant afford can demand forever but cant buy..

so does your simple economic taken into these factors?

mature areas... the ritz carlton residence and class AA office touch 3 k psq that day..

ok so does the demand from those who can afford more than supplies/ or these ppl are already bought and waiting ppl to buy..


if demand / than supply, there should not be occupancy rates rates so high in KV areas.. the said demands should have snap all the upon vp units.. right?

even now developers units are still unsnapped till VP like OUG parklane, sutera residence, Tiara mutiara 2, V residency, green residence, altitute 236, you vista, ecovest cheras, and etc.. haven't include landed Vp..

the price factor.. really the demands are for 800k property? looks like the price are coming from one side the sellers/agents/investors side more.. no one will demands high price.. and cannot get bank valuation too.. demand wor..

haiya why still want to deny, 1 million sure got demand... every class also got demand..

question is is the bubble and our main concern of properties more than 1 million or less?

the huge mass suplies there are below 1 million right?

further, lets narrow down it, could it highly probably the the class be around 450k to 800k?

this is range is also not withing local demands, that is why vacant units are on surge, had it been the range of local demands, there should be not much vacant units left..

those mature areas are starting from 600psq at least or now 700at least.. mature areas has no bearing effect that much they are not the main consumable supplies..

like Rice is the main food, of course there are lot of rice like Siam rice, red indian rice (for diabetis) and etc.. in the market, restaurant a and etc.. the normal rice grade is the most in demand... same like house lor..

why go and target other type of proeprties (more than 1 million), the market for 1 million demand is very low.. no competition.. look at green residence cheras launch 5 months still 2 towers unsold with freebies below 800k nia..

+1 dude is with brains... property up down depend on financial institutions includes many bodies... losers will alwayls be public.. just like company and public listed..

showtime, this part of accounting bullet proof meh? did not know corporate governance and Non executive directors, internal audit, and external audit are doing work so well one? bro this is Malaysia... land of dreams where everyting is possible..

how Lehman brothers come down? all also international standard what... how they cheat?

is is not to say we speculate something in proof but to say it is bullet proof is not right...

Accounting manipulation

In March 2010, the report of Anton R. Valukas, the Bankruptcy Examiner, drew attention to the use of Repo 105 transactions to boost the bank's apparent financial position around the date of the year-end balance sheet. The attorney general Andrew Cuomo later filed charges against the bank's auditors Ernst & Young in December 2010, alleging that the firm "substantially assisted... a massive accounting fraud" by approving the accounting treatment.[52]

On April 12, 2010, a New York Times story revealed that Lehman had used a small company, Hudson Castle, to move a number of transactions and assets off Lehman's books as a means of manipulating accounting numbers of Lehman's finances and risks. One Lehman executive described Hudson Castle as an "alter ego" of Lehman. According to the story, Lehman owned one quarter of Hudson; Hudson's board was controlled by Lehman, most Hudson staff members were former Lehman employees.[53]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bankruptcy_of_Lehman_Brothers