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post Nov 2 2014, 02:44 AM

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QUOTE(sheng291 @ Nov 1 2014, 11:58 PM)
I do agree on the part of charge..they very good in additional charging..haha

is onsite service available on weekend? cuz i will be working in singapore n travel bk JB on weekend.
unless gt international warranty else quite troublesome
I think lenovo has started to do onsite, but not sure how good is that..
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on site is next business day. ironically these so called resellers for dell do not know about it and spreading wrong info about it being 24/7. phone support is 24/7 but onsite requires only business day (and time generally) doh.gif

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post Jan 6 2015, 06:33 PM

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QUOTE(kianwee @ Jan 6 2015, 05:06 PM)
I dealt with them before. Received DFO unit. (Dell Factory Outlet). Complained to them and received refund.

If you want DFO you can order yourself from here: http://www.dell.com/learn/my/en/mydhs1/cam.../dell-outlet-my
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A lot of sellers especially in the forum are selling DFO units from Dell as well but they do not admit it. Just remember there is no such thing as a free lunch. If the price is cheap, there have to be a catch behind it.

That is why I bought my Dell from their official website instead of potential DFO unscrupulous sellers (despite DFO do come with warranty as well at 1 year, u are not using your money for a new laptop still). If you want to buy DFO units, you are better off buying it from Dell's DFO directly instead of the resellers (as you will pay more for them to earn, from what i see these Dell resellers are upping the price by almost rm500-600)

http://www1.ap.dell.com/content/topics/seg...c=my&l=en&s=dfo
http://www1.ap.dell.com/content/topics/seg...c=my&l=en&s=dfo
http://www1.ap.dell.com/content/topics/seg...c=my&l=en&s=dfo

hint: Notice the price/ spec and all of them having 1 year warranty instead of the standard Dell duration

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post Jan 6 2015, 08:04 PM

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QUOTE(xsaintx @ Jan 6 2015, 07:53 PM)
A550jk only 4gb ram where as 7447 8gb ram?
I prefer asus because it's more hardy.. Have been using one since 5 years ago and it's still in good condition just that the spec already outdated and can't support my work now so need a more canggih one.

Dell on the other hand I heard reviews from friends that it's quite flimsy and it's casing can be damaged easily.. Eventho they do have good after sale service.

@myway1985
Your dell unit is new or DFO unit? Hehe
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same spec as the DFO-14120565I including the warranty of 1 year but Dell DFO listing it for RM 1450 only (http://www1.ap.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/products/refurbished/my/en/inspiron_notebook?c=my&l=en&s=dfo). Dell's website no longer have 7437 (http://www.dell.com/my/p/laptops#inspiron-laptops).

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post Jan 7 2015, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(miong93 @ Jan 6 2015, 08:36 PM)
I think his unit is new 1.. not DFO..
If you want solid, go Dell latitude.. that 1 is damn solid and durable.. My boss been using for.. 8 years ? still can run current program without any failure  laugh.gif
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Judging from his reluctance to reply and dodging, i think he sells DFO units.
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post Jan 7 2015, 06:34 PM

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QUOTE(myway1985 @ Jan 7 2015, 06:02 PM)
huh?  did u msg me? or u referring to others?
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QUOTE(xsaintx @ Jan 6 2015, 07:53 PM)
A550jk only 4gb ram where as 7447 8gb ram?
I prefer asus because it's more hardy.. Have been using one since 5 years ago and it's still in good condition just that the spec already outdated and can't support my work now so need a more canggih one.

Dell on the other hand I heard reviews from friends that it's quite flimsy and it's casing can be damaged easily.. Eventho they do have good after sale service.

@myway1985
Your dell unit is new or DFO unit? Hehe
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QUOTE(myway1985 @ Jan 7 2015, 06:08 PM)
thks for defending me bro... to be honest i not sure where the stocks from.. i dint deal wif dell directly... thru a fren...as far as i know i got it cheaper n the warranty is by dell...

i tried to go the website n bid... n only get 1 so far(my new m17xr4)... so whoever wan to try bid in the website... go ahead... mayb u can be as lucky as evofantasy
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post Jan 7 2015, 06:58 PM

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QUOTE(myway1985 @ Jan 7 2015, 06:43 PM)
as i mention b4.. this my part time... the parts warranty burden is on dell n not me... tat my concern...

n so far how many units u get from dfo direct? i got 1 n i tried spam call oso fail... n dfo solely for own use according to dell... really sry.. i m new compare to u all... haha

www.treasuredrop.com this my full time
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Basically spamming recommendation thread with "PM me"/ "I am selling", dodging when someone ask if it is DFO, proceed to claim that you "have no idea where the product is from" and lastly the latest one bolded above.

No one cares if it is your full time or part time job. You are behaving as a seller spamming the forum (subforum with psot count) regardless.

Concern here is how you are spreading a lot of false information in the subforum and in the recommendation thread.

What me and @kianwee was informing in the thread is to just beware of refurbished units that are selling cheaper (reference links to the DFO site of Dell) and well, not a good recommendation unless they are told it is refurbished and then made the decision based on that. This is after all a recommendation thread.

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post Jan 29 2015, 12:09 AM

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QUOTE(Lumiaaa @ Jan 29 2015, 12:00 AM)
What is a good mac book pro
Windows competitors?

Budget around 4 - 5k
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Dell is coming up with this http://www.cnet.com/news/dell-aims-upgrade...-creative-pros/
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post Jan 29 2015, 12:09 AM

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QUOTE(Lumiaaa @ Jan 29 2015, 12:00 AM)
What is a good mac book pro
Windows competitors?

Budget around 4 - 5k
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Dell is coming up with this http://www.cnet.com/news/dell-aims-upgrade...-creative-pros/
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post Feb 10 2015, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(myway1985 @ Feb 10 2015, 10:55 PM)
Wan slim go xps... tat more lasting...
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and so much more expensive.
XPS is considered a premium line whereas Vostro is considered an entry line.
there's no need to compare apple with oranges
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post Feb 11 2015, 02:31 AM

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QUOTE(myway1985 @ Feb 10 2015, 11:35 PM)
His budget 3.5k
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yup does xps have a dedicated GPU like what he wanted that is available on the Vostro?
once again, Apple vs Oranges

for slim design, 3k (he stated max of3k, not 3.5k which is way under the XPS basic spec), dedicated gpu, his options are very limited and the vostro do fit the criteria if it is a Dell that he wants. if he can forgo the slim factor then the 7447 is a better choice as suggested by @ashraf095.

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post Feb 12 2015, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(ZyD86 @ Feb 12 2015, 02:20 PM)
Please help to recommend. I have less time to do research. Need the lappy by this Saturday.

1. Preferred Brand: Lenovo (Thinkpad) or any
2. Budget: 3k below, the lower the better
3. Usage: Programming (JAVA, NetBean etc..), Editing (PS).
4. Preferred laptop/screen size: 14inch

Extra:
- Need VGA i/o for projection using projector (Presentation)
- Not so heavy (For my little sister)
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The thinkpad e-series (E440) comes with VGA.
around 2.5k for basic spec and the only thing i would suggest upgrading is the ram for the stuffs she would be doing.

Most academic institution still uses VGA after all.

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post Feb 21 2015, 11:41 PM

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QUOTE(nzonex @ Feb 21 2015, 07:29 PM)
Hi guys...Any workstation laptop to introduction? budget around rm5000
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good site to check stuffs out. basically go through the review of each workstation and see if it meets our requirements (the average price is listed there too) as there is no one size fits all.
it would provide you more information than just recommenders/ traders here giving you models without saying "why"

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Top-10-Workst...ps.65537.0.html
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post Mar 6 2015, 08:53 PM

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QUOTE(miong93 @ Mar 6 2015, 07:02 PM)
Ya ke ? Melaka campus still okay. Mostly is international student who is using Mac, cause of its world wide warranty. Most Mac user do hackintosh one. Seldom see people stick to only Mac OS. Too limited liao.
People want spend on Mac we also can't do much what. Just hope when actual performance we won't regret lo.
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1. academic discount for MAC which makes it really affordable (especially when you are not using RM)
2. amazing battery life which is really crucial
3. OSX and Unix/ Linux with the ability to run Windows at the same time via bootcamp
4. not everyone is a gamer
5. weight which is another thing
6. superior touchpad

my colleagues at the australian campus for comp sci all uses MAC for the above reasons.
it is an amazing machine if you get MAC Pro.

besides, internationally they have the best warranty.
try looking at Reddit, online forums, YT reviewers and every1 bashes Dell's horrible support/ quality control.
only in Msia, Dell is being glorified as the other manufacturers are doing a bad job here.

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post Mar 7 2015, 01:38 AM

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QUOTE(miong93 @ Mar 6 2015, 09:40 PM)
Well I agree most of your point. biggrin.gif
1. I got no idea there is discount for MAC machine, I only know of Dell giving this promotion.
2. Well it is good under normal usage, when under load it is not necessary good. But most probably also around 3-5 hours right ?
3. Yes I know this. No need to rephrase it to me again smile.gif
4. I DIDN'T MENTION about gaming at all.
5. Well for me 2kg and 1.35kg is not huge different. The laptop now is mostly using aluminum unlike last time.
6. Agree
We're talking about MBA aka Macbook Air. I agree Pro is quite good, but most developers are using it is because you NEED an Apple machine to be able to develop Apps for iOS/OSX platform. You also need an Apple Developer ID. Application based developers are using it because it is a requirement for developing Apps on iOS/OSX platform. People tends to go native development (purchase mac) instead of x-platform solution like XAMARIN because in long run it will be cheaper.
If you're developing things related to server, mostly people will avoid Mac and use other stronger machine like Thinkpad or Latitude or even workstation (with Linux as OS / Windows).
When you're performing stress test or penetration test on your server or application, you definitely won't use Mac most of the time.

Well you have a strong point though. No need to argue more as different person have different perspective. Thanks for clarifying to me on the goods on Mac, I meant it smile.gif
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MAC Air gives around 11 hours on normal usage and Pro would give you 7 hours.
A similar windows machine would get you around 5 hours only.

PS: http://store.apple.com/my/browse/campaigns/education_pricing apple's academic discount for msia
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QUOTE(x-death-x @ Mar 10 2015, 05:33 AM)
thank you for the suggestion..do you think dell xps13 9343 is worth the price?
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yes as it is superior in many ways, getting great reviews all around.

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QUOTE(miong93 @ Mar 10 2015, 11:56 AM)
For normal usage yes, but with that price you can opt for better spec.
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dont think he can get better spec with his requirements especially the <2kg part and a good battery life.
besides, XPS have an SSD as well.
there are more than just spec when it comes to notebook and what he asked for are the usual notebook requirements of mobility.
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QUOTE(miong93 @ Mar 10 2015, 01:22 PM)
Well I just told him there is possibly better option. XPS 13 is indeed good, especially its accessories. But with that price range, you may get inspiron (almost full spec).
Weight may be heavier, but in actual life, you hardly will notice it. 2.5kg vs 2kg is not that much different when you're using backpack.

If he is willing to sacrifice his money for the extra light weight, then it is okay for me also, go ahead smile.gif
The SSD will soon be limited if he/she is going to install stuffs for like 2 or 3 years above. I think if you're using the laptop for 2yrs above, you will surely try to install stuffs right ? And the spec won't last him too long too.

Just my opinion, you can ignore it biggrin.gif
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no ssd, poor battery life.
it is not just weight as build quality wise, it would be better than an Inspiron as well (there are better options than Inspiron for that price range anyways).

he don't need the extra spec for example a dedicated GPU.
the 14nm broadwell is great in better heat management and battery life as well.

128gb is sufficient if you are not gaming.
once again, storage space depend on the user.
SSD have the advantage in speed, weight and longevity over HDD.

the spec would last him a long time as he isn't gaming.
mobile computing tech isn't progressing fast in terms of performance but rather more on efficiency the past few years whereas softwares are getting more optimized especially.

QUOTE(x-death-x @ Mar 10 2015, 02:24 PM)
Thanks bro..I valued your opinion...right now I'm thinking between xps13touch or ru14 pro..more prefer ru14 pro but lack of backlit keyboard
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I would go for the RU14pro due to the options available for you to customize to your needs and the larger battery size (though higher consumption from the processor as well).
Mobility wise (especially the size thanks to the screen design), the XPS would win but i would talk their their sales personnel to get up to 6gb of ram.

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QUOTE(miong93 @ Mar 10 2015, 06:07 PM)
Well Inspiron is just an example. There are obviously better option. smile.gif
I do agree. Just I got different opinion only. The heat, you won't realize any different in real life if you compare it with a 4th gen cpu (assuming you're using same laptop to compare), except you're using software to view the exact temperature.
Storage wise it depends on user. But you can't guarantee that the user won't want to play game in the future. So it is better to get larger storage capacity in case you need it. (I used up 100GB without installing any games, even steam is not installed)
XPS 13 is still using 4gb onboard RAM, I think it will soon be limited though. Cause with Windows 8.1, it already consume about 1GB - 2GB of ram. If you deactivate those services running on Windows 8.1 to save up more ram, you defeated the purpose of using Windows 8.1 then. Not to mention Windows 10 may requires similar or more since there is Cortana coming along with it.
Like I said, I'm not disagreeing with anyone. I just want to let TS know there are better option which he/she could consider also biggrin.gif
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yup this is just for discussion's sake.
nowadays, i would say 6gb ram is the minimum which i guess every laptop manufacturer would provide the upgrade option (though pricey).

a big reason to use SSD over HDD is power consumption and heat generation (which is why you see the slower RPM HDD for even gaming laptops nowadays).
for a casual user, I think a SSD would be more important than a processor (as long as it is i5 and lol-ed at the new macbook's Intel M lolx) and a minimum 4-6gb ram.

PS: My datasets for the experiments alone are 80gb, results from processing them are 30gb (sync-ed to dropbox for my workstations) without gaming. From the questioner's requirements of movie etc, 128gb SSD seems alright as generally you would want media files to be on external HDDs unless key ones.
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QUOTE(miong93 @ Mar 10 2015, 10:59 PM)
Yea I agree. I think for general usage there is no need to be too worry about heat generation. Since you won't be doing anything intense so HDD or SSD is not a worry though. Only the speed of read/write. I personally use quite a lot of software so 128GB is definitely not enough for me.
I would still go for i7 at least since I'm willing to spend that much already. Except for the SSD, I feel that spending so much for a slim design laptop without good spec is not worth it.

P/S: Yea, I facepalm-ed at the new macbook. Now Apple is even selling the external USB-C adapter, "You want to use USB ? purchase it from us" doh.gif It is like Dell XPS 13 (not sure Dell give the accessory for free or need to purchase separately)
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more processing power means lower battery life still (and would require better cooling as well).
it is always a trade-off.
SSD matters for casual users as it would affect the load speed which many general user would relate as "lag" especially when windows is doing their indexing.
for my tasks, i would require a i7 though considering most of my tasks are now ran on the grid, that is getting irrelevant now compared to longer battery life on the go.

ps: as much as I would love a SSD, the amount of fileIO i am doing would kill the SSD within 6 months.

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XPS had multiple ports still whereas NewMAC unfortunately use the same USB-C for its power adapter as well ie 0 ports if you are plugged in.

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