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zeroglyph
post Jul 2 2007, 12:04 PM

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likes:
- good representation of transformers(dialogue reference to the old movie)
- nice hi-tech movie action

hates:
- optimus with mouth, WTF?
- not enough dialogues for the robot, especially decepticons.
- optimus did not rescue bumblebee, WTF? that's not the optimus i knew.
- cgi models are like guyver rejects. too confusing, need to look hard to find prime's mouth.
- transformations are not consistent, you can see it with bumblebee.

overall, a good representation of transformers. not a failure as i have expected, but not a winner either. still great fun to watch. props to michael bay.

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post Jul 2 2007, 02:46 PM

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post Jul 4 2007, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(zenix @ Jul 4 2007, 12:53 AM)
You know what I think?
They made the trailer first to shock and excite everyone.
Then build a movie around it.
Coz alot of things don't make sense!
It is worst, how come he got a mouth and talks like a beast?
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Classic!
One of the best TF movies eva!  notworthy.gif
What fighting scene?
80% of the movie was a "discovery" period.
Then 20% was fast forwarding like hell after S7 showed up.
The fighting scenes also dunno who is who.
Can't tell Megatron/Starscream apart in robot form.
It could have been alot worst but it could have been alot better, it should have been a longer movie to clear up some gaps.
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i agree mostly with what you said. the robot didn't have enough personallity too. the "discovery" is expected since it's the 1st movie. it's not a complete looser, but not a winner either.

i stand with what i said, "the movie was only saved by the special effect galore". it's good, but definately not movie of the year material. i'd give it "best special effect" movie. people who says it's "movie of the year" probably has never watch a good movie before.

ps: the designs are not up to standard. the action was so fast that you can't see who's who. that's what i meant by "personality". heck, i'd rather they just use the alternator line of the toys. it's much cleaner and well made. you can see that the transformation is mostly inaccurate. just see how bumblebee transforms a few time, you'll notice it's always different.

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post Jul 4 2007, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(skulless @ Jul 4 2007, 12:31 PM)
The robots didn't have enough on screen time or personality is because there are so many of them, and it's hard to focus on all of them instead of the story. The story was based on allspark and the consequences of it. OP and Megatron is always the main cast of TF, Bumblebee had more on screen because he was attached to Sam, who is the main cast of the movie. This is a general movie not based on the animations and certainly not a toy figure movie.
Lord of the rings have many actors too, but you can still see personallity. a "general movie" is an excuse. if spider-man were not made with his original custome, will it be succesfull? wonder why spider-man 3 wasn't much of a success? because they screw a few things. wonder why x-men 3 was a failure? because they screw a few things. if it wasn't based on the cartoon/tittle, why the heck was "optimus prime" in it? serious, it's an excuse that has been used by many directors before. no such thing as "general movie". doh.gif wonder why when a film that has succesfully adapt from its original title, "general movie" was never mentioned?

QUOTE(skulless @ Jul 4 2007, 12:31 PM)
The CGI was definitely a top drawer, a new software specially written for it at the Industrial of Light and Magic. People who said it's the movie of year because they like not because they haven't seen anything better.
well it's a bit a early to give the "movie of the year" title isn't? IIRC, ghost rider was anticipated as "movie of the year" too. now what happened? they're giving away tittle for free? wonder why ghost rider fails? because they screw a few things and say it's a "general movie".

QUOTE(skulless @ Jul 4 2007, 12:31 PM)
When the 1st designs came out, every TF fans in the world were screaming at M Bay and his design crew, esp Hasbro. Heck, it was awesome when it got integrated with the movie and story. The alternator line is a toy figure collection and if you do collect the movie line collection, you will notice the transformation is so much harder than alternators because it is more realistic.
alternators are more well designed and realistic man. heck it's even in scale. movie line is realistic? please, all i see in the transformation sequence was cheating effects. honestly, it was hasbro that saved the movie. m.bay didn't even want the robots to have dialogue. mr bay would've screwed the movie over if he didn't consult with hasbro. sure the toys looks great, but the movie model is not the same as the toy model is it now?

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post Jul 4 2007, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(khelben @ Jul 4 2007, 03:07 PM)
skulless said its not based 100% on the animated series. He didn't say it is not a transformers movie lol jeebus. This movie has Optimus Prime in it because its a damn Transformers movie.
An excuse for what exactly? Because Bay wants to piss the fans off by not putting in boxy cartoon robots in the movie? I'm assuming you hate the designs lol.
So you'd rather see Ironhide in a gay-ass red van with a round solid head? And Blackout in a barney purple Sikrosky MH-53? And Starscream in red, white and blue?? I certainly dont want to see those colors on an F22 raptor laugh.gif
IMO its a general movie because instead of putting cartoon squarish robots to just please the fans, Bay includes a more modern and cooler feel in this movie to attract everyone. I'm a fan of the series and I love this movie. Not sure what the others would think of the movie if Bumblebee has a cute chubby face with viking horns, and Megatron has Bert's (Ernie's pal in Sesame Street) eyebrows and transforms into a handgun biggrin.gif
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did i actually say i hate the movie? no. it's a good movie(with the effects), yes. but it could've better. when you make a movie based on something, shouldn't there be resemblance? what if LotR did'nt actually follow the original book? would people like it? i think not. sure, story line should change, characters may differs a bit, but the main concept must be intact.

yes, i'd rather see the old models any day instead of the new ones(most hardcore fans would like that). heck, i'd take alternator series. face it!!, most fans were let down when the 1st movie model appeared. i was half expecting it would look like alternators(more realistic tranformation). now most are quite impress, but mostly by the effects. including me. but effects alone does not make a great movie adaptation.

an "excuse" when a movie not having much resemblance to the original title.

so yeah, it's a good movie. however, it's neither a looser nor a winner.
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post Jul 4 2007, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(raptorclans @ Jul 4 2007, 04:52 PM)
"Are you Ladiesman217?!!" hehehee...
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i believe it was "Are you username Ladiesman217?!!"

see, i did pay attention.
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post Jul 4 2007, 07:19 PM

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QUOTE(skulless @ Jul 4 2007, 05:46 PM)

You are just being unreasonable here with your excuses about how bad the movie is. OP itself is TF. If there is NO OP there is NO TF. It is as simple as that. When I said the movie wasn't based on the cartoons, it is not about the characters, it is about the whole plot and storyline. Well, M Bay said it was a general audiences movie and heck looking at all the reviews, you are in the minority with all those skeptical critics. Majority of the ppl really like this movie.

Well, did I give it a movie of the year? When ppl said it was a movie of year it's because they have seen it and love it. Ghost rider was ANTICIPATED to be, you understand the word, don't you.

The transformation wasn't perfect but it was as good as it gets with the kind of detailed that the ppl put into the movie. If you think there are better ppl out there, why don't you send those contacts to Dreamworks. Of course Hasbro consulted M Bay, it is TF for god sake. Wouldn't Stan Lee be the consultant to the spideys and x-men?


Wasn't there any resemblance of the characters or the main concept? Autobot and Decepticons, with all the main characters in it? Spiderman came out so long ago, you expect the movie to be shot in the 60s? Where spidey would still be wearing 60s style clothing? Those designs IMO blend in just perfectly with the movie, the effects and the plot.

As you have said, most fans hated the design, but look what happen now. Most fans actually agree those designs look so much better in the movie. By putting old design in an actual movie would have severe effect, 1 word. GAY!
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ANTICIPATED? what does it means? hmm.gif o wait you quoted me using that word. laugh.gif .

i think you're the one who didn't understand what i'm saying. did i say the movie was bad? please re-read all my post in this thread. i didn't even say they should use the old design.

me=voicing opinion
you=forcing your opinion on people.

i'm busy with work to argue too much. thanks.
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post Jul 12 2007, 12:39 AM

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QUOTE(QuickFire @ Jul 11 2007, 07:14 PM)
well this is the kind of movie that upon its release you see people shouting "OMG WOW BEST MOVIE. EVER!" and then a year or two later gets pretty much forgotten. Think Independence Day.
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i agree. just watched it for the 2nd time. watch the transformation carefully and you'll see that they are not "transforming" more like "morphing". plus, transformation is not persistent.

well, i stand with what i said earlier in this thread. a good movie, but not a good adaptation. just special effects galore. ironhide and rachet looks like a bloody ape. could've used a better mold.

you like transformers, better watch the '86 movie, you like special effect, watch the 2007 movie.
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post Jul 16 2007, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(ssaturn @ Jul 16 2007, 03:39 AM)
So sad about not much fighting been done, starscream just hit and run.... in the end run out to space.. >_<. Megatron too fast to die, the most funny part when he awake from frozen the first words he spoke " I AM MEGATRON ". I was like... "WTF..?

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[sarcasm] yes, that's what you'd expect an advance-hi-tech-intelligent lifeform to say.[/sarcasm] rolleyes.gif

seriously, it's just the hype. after the movie, being a transformers fan suddenly becomes cool. before this, people say i'm childish for collecting transformers.

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post Jul 16 2007, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(Vorador @ Jul 16 2007, 10:15 AM)
zeroglyph,

lol Raziel!
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haha....i see you're a fan of LOK series too, "Vorador". can't wait for a movie of it. drool.gif
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post Jul 20 2007, 03:40 AM

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QUOTE(oucheev @ Jul 19 2007, 10:30 PM)
Hey I am 30++ and a fan on Transformers cartoons during my primary school. Anyway I like the movie. Something different and original compared the the other summer release. Its not the best movie of all time but I think its the best for this year so far.

By the way Transformers do not belong to kids of this decade, Transformers belongs to everyone young or old.
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like i said before, kids this decade simply follow what's cool. it's the hype. "oohh....transformer's cool now? i'm gonna be transformers movie only fan now since it's the cool thing and i'm not original".

and yes, the 1986 movie has more transformers feel than this one, more personality. Linkin park and transformers doesn't mix.

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@ebizmusic: that review fits the movie perfectly. laugh.gif

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post Jul 23 2007, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(+Newbie+ @ Jul 22 2007, 05:17 PM)
I don't see any problems with Linkin Park mixing with Transformers. But I digress. It's a matter of personal taste, I guess. I didn't fancy the new designs, and didn't like how optimus was made to look and sound (dialogue wise) in the movie as opposed to the cartoon. The storyline wasn't rock solid either. But even I have to admit that this movie is a very well made movie and in the end it achieved what it set out to do - provide entertainment in the bucket loads.
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i never did say the movie is bad. but the room for improvement is being overlooked rather than missed.

 

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