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 Palm Civet, aka Musang Pandan

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post Aug 20 2006, 12:08 AM

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u may know them but u duno them all. i voulunteer there. i found out a lot of things that people outside dunno & dun choose to care any less to know. there's a few very passionate people in there. well to work in the zoo it self is already a good start. it has came to my knowledge that there are alot of animals that they are not farmiliar with. unlike other zoos world wide, there's no such things as animal training or what so ever. in the zoo, mayb the top ppl is bz makin money that they do not take the trouble to care bout their own charge. this job is usually up to the seller or the zoo keeper to find out for them self. like i said there's no training provided in the local zoos. where does the keepers learn? from those wednesday classes conducted by the zoo? those classes i attended is more like a history lesson bout the zoo(i went to the class bout elephants & primates) how the zoo changed etc etc. it is then up to the sellers to actually teach them. they continue to remain "STUPID & NOT-GOOD-ANIMAL-KEEPERS"because people do not teach them. since when does a big company actually go to the zoo to teach the peeps there? well...recently there is lar...dr. brandy barr was there. if u think bout it properly, can a bunch of zoo keepers hog a computer a few hours a day google-ing bout a new animal that they got, looking for care sheets? it has also come to my knowledge that some information supplied by certain suppliers tends to be misleading.( this i dunno, a contact in the zoo told me)

please. the zoo has already a very bad reputation. it does not need help to get any worst then it is now.

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post Aug 20 2006, 12:48 AM

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QUOTE(boigamaniac @ Aug 20 2006, 12:39 AM)
*sigh* I dont want to argue with u, or anyone else. Obviously u seem to have some kind of hidden agenda between ur words. Which is why ur reputation precedes u. It would be redundant to reason with u.
Little misfit, if you wish to heed what they say about the zoo, please send the babies to zoo negara and let us all know what happens in a few months.
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its not even bout the civet cats anymore. as fas as i'm concerned. u have quite a good reputation too. also, i noticed that u talk in in convoluted sentences. state ur point clearly please. i might miss read it again. wink.gif

anyways. back to the zoo... u dun seem to read properly what i said & ment. perhaps i should type in double spacing new times roman font pt. 16? i have a feeling that SeGi Exibition thread is coming up again. better keep my guns.

i said the zoo is like that because its staffs are un-educated. i think that they do put in an effort. but then when there's no one there to offer advise or help them they aint gonna make it. i do not say that they are good keepers. i only say there's a few passionate keepers. that's all...perhaps i would bold it.

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post Aug 20 2006, 12:54 AM

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QUOTE(Reanne @ Aug 20 2006, 12:50 AM)
Ok, to put it simply, there ARE people who care about the animals who work in the Zoo. But due to lack of training, info and mayb financials, they can't really do much and are almost as ignorant as the ones that don't care.

Correct me if I'm wrong. tongue.gif
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yeaps. ur perfectly right. get a few days off & voulenteer & the zoo. go to the classes & see what type of education they get. smile.gif
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post Aug 20 2006, 01:08 AM

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QUOTE(kin_onn @ Aug 20 2006, 01:04 AM)
i believe PASSIONATE and EDUCATED are 2 totally different words with totally diff connotations. Being passionate doesn't necessarily mean being educated...and vice versa. However, passion if it is indeed authentic will be a driving force to pursue education (formal or informal). So if someone is indeed passionate i believe he/she will be self motivated and strive to learn more...and this doesn't happen overnight.

In large institutions like zoo's it is inevitable to have a mix of ppl who are really passionate about animals and those who are there just to cari makan. But i guess its human nature to blow up the negative rather than to emphasize the positive. Sad but true..
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yes. true on that word. passionate is diffrent. but like i said. they lack resorce. remember that time is also a resorce. who would not wanna be good in something? they can be cleaning elephant shit for the rest of their life i dun care. but some of them actually take the effort to make a trip to thailand & learn from those people there. imagine. how much does a un educated/qualified zoo keeper earn to do that?

thats a point to ponder. sorry lar i a bit harsh there just now. no hard feelings yeah hans...its a forum.

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post Aug 20 2006, 01:18 AM

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QUOTE(InfiniteVoid @ Aug 20 2006, 01:10 AM)
Ok... this is not about Zoo Negara. It is about you. Certainly you may know most of them, you may not know all of them, don't you? So if were to correct the word "judge", what word should I use?

Like I said, be more optimistic. If you really know them inside out, surely you can pin point their mistake or perhaps you don't bother at all.

I'm neither breeder nor supplier so I won't be dealing with them. Perhaps 1 day, I will get myself a volunteer job in there to observe whether they really worth condemning.

Why don't you share your bad story then?
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come come...call me & i'll put u thru the educatonal department. smile.gif
they always welcome a helping hand.

and here's a link

http://www.zoonegara.org.my/involved/volunteer.html
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post Aug 22 2006, 12:36 AM

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QUOTE(kukucio @ Aug 22 2006, 12:07 AM)
take and make curry la...i feel that the people in this forum got no other job already....i used to be one of them....i thought i knew alot but looks like i need to learn alot more...some people here are so full of bullshit....i've offended alot of people here...one of them tag...but i feel some people are so full of bullshit cause they feel that they are superior to other...GO F**K a tree...
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no hard feelings man...lol...over d la...oh yeah....we got a new bull shitter in the house...lol....woo hoo...

a man of alll trades...dogs, reptiles, small animals... u name it. wink.gif

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