Can a child progress towards music university without having to waste time in learning academically in public school? It seems like a waste of time to study the public school curricullum if children already wanted to learn music. If i sent my child to yamaha and study music for long time, are there any university just specialised for musician only in local and overseas ?

This post has been edited by missysleepy: Jul 14 2014, 09:09 AM

Are you sure you want to deprive your children of an actual education because of music? What if they decide to drop music in the future but don't have anything to fall back on? You might want to reconsider.

In regards to your question, I can't think of any music universities that don't require at least a basic level of education.

What instrument would your child be learning?
Would still be a good idea to get an academic education in addition to music.

well let me just say things are different these days to be a musician or be in the music industry. He/she has to be well aware of social skills, business, basic contract/agreements, marketing strategies and if you're heading for the studio some computer knowledge, basic science/physics(waves)/electronics.

All these basics are taught in schools.

Just my 2 cents.

You can just have the child take 5 IGCSE or O level subjects privately with the British council.

Thanks for the feedback.
Maybe i didnt explained well. Anyway, im not depriving a child from basic education but just that not following the mainstream education or examination based. The child will be educated in other learning centers to discover other skills in cognitive thinking, money or financial programmes , private gyms or even sports trained by dedicated coaches.

But lets just say that music alone is an academic on its own way and im sure many musicians did discovers improvement in memories by just playing instruments they like or even composing music. And im sure music education is not focusing just only on the instruments. They can be singer or even composer or maybe they likes to be a DJ.

The question is not what if they dont like music and they like other things? This only happens when most school childrens were starting lessons in schools. Maybe im wrong but i noticed quite a few musician teachers started playing music at early age and now they were teachers and been playing at private events.

Anyway, thanks for the feedback and i just found out that a few music university do accept homeschoolers with academic results and requires auditions. I guess its boils down to audition and academic portfolios either from schools or other events like concerts a child participated.

Well, what if it turns out that the kid is simply untalented and sucks at music. Specialize too early, and the options closes down, and the kid don't get to choose what they like when they're older. If you choose for them at age 7, they don't get to make that choice when they are 15 or 17.

Most professional musicians start at a very young age, as do music teachers and amateur performers. Five or six is a good age. Nearly all attended conventional schools, and learn music "after school" taking private lessons. I don't know a single one who did not attend regular school. Don't know anyone who attended a music academy IN PLACE of rather than IN ADDITION to normal school, starting at age 7.

The usual path is to go to regular school, take music classes after school, and then at tertiary level, only then switch to an exclusive music-focused school.

If your child is really very talented, the main thing you want to look for is a professional (like a concert pianist) who is willing to teach your child. Obviously in Malaysia the level is not that high so you will have to go overseas. There are music academies and foundations that have top class professionals teaching there. They do accept children, but the waiting lists are also long. It might be difficult getting in without a recommendation.

Other alternatives, send your child for competitions e.g. local, asia and International. Sometimes winners of competitions get offered scholarships to study with famous musicians, it also opens up other doors, and higher chances of being accepted internationally into good academies.

What genre is your child interested in?
A good place to start if you were planning on going the classical route would be to ask the musicians at the MPO which is based in Kuala Lumpur. They have a few educational programs targeted at young musicians that you'll find helpful.
Most music conservatories have prerequisites that your child would need in order to enter, so do look up what they are.
Auditions are one of them but not the only one.
Here's a link you'd find useful.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unive...chools_of_music

This is the question i always get from passive thinkers. Sorry to say this but the reality is that many kids in high schools do have problems in finding their interest and my own relatives who applied for the subject they he wanted to studied had been rejected and been offered different major. Fyi, musical journey is not just a career or professions but also a life long experience embed with someone. One just have to busk in the streets anytime or anywhere.

By the way, im sure you have heard of many people changes jobs so fast and even abandoned their university degrees and joined direct selling companies or even insurance for better money.

Music teachers had told me that most children after been to public school , things will change, they will be tired to follow bcos music itself is like an unexplored ocean . So the lesson and interest will drown in a matter of time and most parents will sell off their piano as second hand.

And in the end, one just have to choose either a business career that interest the person most. And probably you just need to choose one career in life out of the thousand jobs .

This post has been edited by missysleepy: Jul 22 2014, 08:29 PM

Yup , that is the plan , to get them ready or prepare without interference of local school subjects but will equip the child with language skills and other relevant tools usually followed by unschoolers in the west right now which mean preparing them socially and also independent strong whether in physique or mentally . Basically its a blue ocean strategy maneuver.

Ok. if you're not planning on enrolling them in a local university to further their music education, then, perhaps you could get them into a British style educational system. Maybe an international school? Some of them also incorporate music. At least a British 'A' level education is recognized by most universities. Do ask about this at the British Council.

By the way, if you were studying western classical music, you'd need to learn at least 2 instruments at the university. Try for something your child can play in an orchestra as it is a lot of fun making music in a group.

Hope this helps.

This post has been edited by Dbassnut: Jul 23 2014, 10:03 AM

Maybe will look into american curriculum like SAT if im not mistaken. Don't think i will choose the british system for him. Right now, i will try exposing him to classical music concerts. he's currently in Yamaha JMC. long way to go but can see the child learning very fast in motor skill .

Wait. Is your child 5 years old, 10, 15, or 20?

Oh really? That's interesting, where was this?

I've studied up to Masters level in both UK and US and was never required to do 2 instruments.

Having done music at both British and American unis, here are a few things to consider:
- US seems to be better for jazz, UK/Europe for western classical. US also has good classical programmes but their courses are based a lot on written coursework, assignments, etc. whereas in UK/europe if you want to focus more on performance, there are more options available.
- Loads of Americans appreciate classical music but the fact remains that jazz originated there and western classical music originated in Europe. I personally felt it was much more interesting and eye-opening studying from the Europeans as they understand the culture of the composers and seem to have a better feel/understanding of the music.

Germany is a good place to study (many big composers were German), they used to offer free education for those who speak German, not sure if they still do that but something you can look into, since your child is still young he has loads of time to pick up the language.

I guess bottomline, it will all come down to what genre he wants to study, which will determine which curriculum to look into. Home-schooling is always an option too, more and more parents are doing this, especially those who have to move around a lot for work purposes.

OK. I stand corrected. . So what course did you take?
A friend of mine studied music in Germany. Had to take 2 instruments according to her. & yes, you just have to know german & pass the entrance exams to get in. Not sure if still the same now.

Perhaps this depends on the course & the university?

This post has been edited by Dbassnut: Jul 24 2014, 11:26 AM

probably cos germany is free, so u have to bend over backwards abit

Probably not free but close to being free.. If you don't have excellent result most likely you have to pay a minimal fee, like 1000 Euros? if you are good they probably pay you extra allowance per month

I did mainly music performance, a bit of teaching.
Seems more like different countries have different requirements, good to know that Germany requires 2 instruments so can advise students in future.

This post has been edited by mel0770: Jul 24 2014, 02:22 PM