last month in Maybank treats fair I come across with a new brand of rechargeable battery - Fujitsu which I hardly see in other place.
the sellers claimed that fujitsu technology is the same as those sanyo eneloop battery.
so I had a look on the packaging of 2000mAh AA,
it shows having 1800 recharge cycle times, low self discharged rate, after 5 years it still remain 70% of its power when full charged.
by looking on those features, its seem very similar with all the eneloop,
so am wondering, anyone around here did a test use on this new brand?
mind to share

I'm the heavy user for Eneloop battery for flash. Seems like no issue after using 2-3years and give me 5 star for rating.

After that, i'm not interested to use another battery.

Eneloop +1

But it is bought by Panasonic I think

ya, I knew eneloop being good quality all the time.
but what surprise me is, the sellers told me that, eneloop is taken over by Panasonic,
so for eneloop batteries, will no longer made in japan, and will be in made in china by their own factory..
this is the info they updated me..

Yup.. but quality still remain. I just bought Eneloop Pro. It's made by Panasonic. Still satisfied.

Ya, the seller in the fair told me so too..
sad to hear from them is eneloop will made in china, or did u get any such news?
but whatever, things have to move on if its true..
so am trying to gather this new brand info..

This post has been edited by KevC: Jul 11 2014, 12:09 PM

I see... good to hear that..
have a look on this blogspot, looks interesting..
http://famcart.blogspot.com/2014/05/fujits...ia-famcart.html

Sanyo got into trouble around 2005-7. In 2009, Panasonic bought just over 50% of Sanyo. A few years later, they bought the rest (IINM). Sanyo is a subsidiary of Panasonic and has been for a few years.

I see.. I think you get it right too..
search thru the internet,
it seem Panasonic manage bought the eneloop brand only,
but due to some EU restricted rules, sanyo had to sold it battery plant to FDK (fujitsu)
according to this news link :
http://www.law360.com/articles/130919/sany...su-unit-for-71m

seem like its gonna be something new battery gadget as an option for our flash soon..

anyone would willing to give it a try?

anyone else can provide more information regarding this two brands?

Found something interesting to share,
read thru a blog that showing the evolution of eneloop and fujitsu~~
happy reading guys~~

http://famcart.blogspot.com/2014/07/the-ev...nd-fujitsu.html

refresh~

err are you try to bump this thread?
Anyway, I still prefer Eneloop over other brand. Mainly use for speedlite. I also use it on cordless phone, to replace the oem battery.
Other brand I already use is mahapower Imedion, GP LSD battery and E8GE battery.

So far, Eneloop win

haha, ya, kinda like bumping it, due to here is not allowing me to using the bump button. so I am forced to reply with "refresh"~

anyway just awaiting any users that had started using this so called fujitsu rechargeable battery claimed as the same production factory with eneloop.
so it could maybe be a new guide line for me whenever I gonna purchase one..

so far I guess eneloop leading the market all the way..
hope there are gadget freak gonna share their testing after used.. =)

eneloop user here. been using them since 2009 and the batteries are still working fine for my external flash

just bought a fujitsu 2000mah to be use in tamiya mini 4wd.. I am an eneloop user all this while.. will update here again after I test the performance of the battery..

Should be this

http://www.lelong.com.my/fujitsu-rechargea...7-01-Sale-I.htm

http://www.fdk.com/cyber-e/pi_bt_fujitsunimh.html

I'm using the Fujitsu rechargeable AAA for my DECT phone. Previously using Eneloop AAA.

So far the performance is comparable.

Hi xgenomer,

so how was the performance of the battery so far?
I can see Fujitsu Battery very active in participating the Tamiya race always from their fb page as below

https://www.facebook.com/FujitsuBatteryMalaysia

seem like the features are all look very similar from sanyo eneloop.

Its the same company only different brand.

I can say..the performance of the battery is quite similar with old 2000mah eneloop (dark blue lettering) one in term of voltage consistency over time.

sorry to activate an old topic, but i really need to find out from active users of both brands of the batteries:

After using for some years, what's your latest view between these two brands: Fujitsu vs Eneloop?

How about other brands like Panasonic Evolta, and Sony?

Don't bother get the Evolta, i had this and it leaks.

Sony no longer produce its CycleEnergy, well i still using it and working fine now.

If u would like to get Panasonic Eneloop, make sure it is made in Japan. For alternative, Fujitsu is the brand to go for, the white equivalent to regular eneloop while the black equivalent to eneloop pro.

If u don't mind, u could get some LADDA 2450mAH rechargeable batteries from IKEA for half the price of eneloop pro.

Eneloops are famous for staying fully charged longer when just sitting around. As in if you fully charge the batteries and leave it to sit for a few months then it will still have 80%+ power after so long. I have used Fujitsu and did suspect them to be the same as Eneloops. I don't have any thorough test methods to test these battery's performance.

So other rechargeable brands like Sony or Energizer will lose half its power just by sitting a few months. If you're a person that always charges their batteries the day before using then you might not feel much difference. When Sony and Eneloop both are fully charged, both last similarly when used in a speedlite.

But don't buy no name brands. They work fine for a few months and then stop working properly. And seeing one forming some white blueish powder, maybe that's what rechargeable batteries leak looks like, but I haven't seen branded rechargeable leak like this yet.

Brands I've tried without problems yet: Panasonic/Sanyo Eneloop, Fujitsu, Ansmann, GP, Sony and Energizer.

i thought Fujitsu basically used Eneloop plant and tech to make their own Fujitsu (basically Eneloop in Fujitsu clothing)

while panasonic has no choice and use their own china plant to make the new range of eneloop.

i have used several brand of LSD battery eneloop, imedion, ansman, cycle energy(sony) (friend using GP Recyko, and it works the same)... and they last very well until today (out of 36pcs, only 2pcs cant retain charge). overheating for camera flash use is normal under stressful usages (long burst, high power usage, heaty environment). and all LSD are very good IF you use the RIGHT charger. if you use those charger must charge in Pairs, aka timer charger, normally it will damage your battery because it is unable to read the battery capacity and know its full. It will just continuous charge for 10-12 hours and overcharge it.

as long as you are using Smart Charger, which can read the voltage, and support trickling charge (eg, 150mAh trickling charge at 1.15volt aka 80% till full) then your LSD can really really reach up to 2000 charge cycle (or even more!). The Sanyo bundle charger? i throw it out the window. It messes up my other battery capacity. I'm currently using MAHA c401fs(6 years now, still tiptop condition) C801D(3 year usage) and Notecore D4(2 year usage since start playing with 14500 & 18650 batts)

also if you plan to buy other brand then eneloop, try google around for more info on the particular brand and understand is it LSD type or not.

the issue was never with eneloop or insert brandLSD battery, but the right charger for the job.

BTW, IKEA LADDA 2000/2450mAH rechargeable batteries is not true LSD type although the packaging wrote READY TO USE. its a false marketing. i brought them, charge 4 pcs, use 2 for my wireless keyboard, when my keyboard battery life is shorten after 6 month usage, i swap out the other pair, and guess what, 2 week life. charge all 4, and happened again on next cycle... yes, another 6 month went by... anddddd i used for my photography jobs. 200 fires and dead, while my eneloop continue to 1500 shots (my flash was set to 1/64 fulltime) so, i dont trust IKEA false marketing on LADDA made in china battery for heavy use like flash... all use as wall clock battery and remote control batt now.

This post has been edited by ieR: May 3 2016, 05:51 PM

Bought the LADDA 2450mAH recently... haven't use yet. But if I recall correctly, it is made in Japan.

well its my experience (my 2 cent). maybe other people have diff experience. go take it out and try it. see does it live up to expectation or not?

May I know your LADDA is dual tone or white version?

both also ada, as long not the yellow ones

Hmm…i might give a try on the white 1 see how. Currently still using Sony CycleEnergy and the Fujitsu lsd (white)

For Panasonic Eneloop, most of the batteries still made in Japan, while batteries bundled with charger are made in China now

Just wonder, I have an old Sanyo Quick Charger, can I use it to charge the LADDA batteries (2500mah) ? (iirc, the model is nc-mqr01)

This post has been edited by HMMaster: May 4 2016, 02:47 PM

is it the one with 'quick' slot on slot1 and slot4?. that sanyo is the smart charger version. but entry charger unit.
if its the one that must charge in pair, else it wont charge. those will damage the battery in long run.

Since the review of Eneloop battery sounds impressive, 2 months ago I give a try and bought the Organic Version of Eneloop 4 pcs AA and 4 pcs AAA. I installed the 1st pair of AA into my TV Smart remote and use about a month till battery low, then I swap the 2nd pair to the remote. I used the Panasonic original Eneloop charger to fully charge the 1st pair of AA then store it in a batteries storage box and keep inside the drawer in cool environment.

After a month of storage when I want to use the AA batteries yesterday, I was shocked that one of the 1st pair AA battery has leaked but another one still fine. The leaks is around the positive terminal of the battery until the label wrapping of the battery also corroded to change colour. I tried to use tissue to wipe off the leaks then surprisingly the voltage of the leaked battery is still similar with the second battery. The another 4 pcs AAA still fine.

I try to google around the reason of NiMh leaking, majority sites explained that the leaks should be caused by overcharge the battery using cheap charger which heated it too hot during charging until the safety valve of the battery opens to release internal pressure and leaks to avoid explosion. I am using Panasonic smart charger which is designed for Eneloop battery and I remember that these 1st pair AA batteries are slight warm after fully charge. No sign of leaking after finished charging the batteries. So I am pretty sure definitely not the charger problem and it should be the quality of the battery matters. In my experience of using Energizer, GP, Uniross Rechargable NiMh battery, I never encountered such leaking issue. NimH Rechargeable battery shouldn't leaks like Alkaline batteries under normal usage. I have called Panasonic Malaysia and complaint about my issue, the customer service told me that Panasonic don't provide any warranty for Eneloop batteries but she will raised my complaint to the higher management and will come back to me later. I am very frustrated that the battery only can use once and need to discard and I hope Panasonic Malaysia will solved my issue in good manner.

Previously the Eneloop is own by Sanyo and all batteries are Made in Japan but now after Panasonic bought the Eneloop brand, the batteries becomes Made in China. I suspect that the QC and quality dropped with the later batch of Eneloop battery from Panasonic if compared with the old days Sanyo.

A lesson learned, I will totally stayed away with Panasonic Eneloop batteries which is Made in China forever. Now after knowing that Fujitsu took over the Sanyo Eneloop batteries factory in Japan, I feel it is better to buy Japan made Fujitsu LSD rechargeable batteries instead of China made Panasonic Eneloop LSD rechargeable battery. Both brand are having similar technology but only difference in country of production which make the difference.

Big No for China made Panasonic Eneloop.

This post has been edited by kcks: Jul 21 2016, 01:19 AM

There are Panasonic Eneloops that are made in Japan as well, I recently bought 2 packs from KLDSLR..

Yours one is import by Panasonic Malaysia? Does the blister pack got the sticker of Panasonic Malaysia? When is the manufacturing date of the battery? I think your one is the previous batch of Eneloop which the packing written Capacity min 1900mAh and made in Japan

Mine one got Panasonic Malaysia sticker on the blister pack and manufacturing date is November 2015. Packing written Capacity up to 2000mAH and made in China.

Now Panasonic Malaysia officially import China made Eneloop and I noticed there are 2 version of packing selling in Malaysia.


I just found an interesting article to differentiate China made with Japan Made Eneloop:

http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showth...Testing-Results


Seems China made Eneloop quality is not as good as Japan made Eneloop.

Nope no sticker and not Panasonic Malaysia. I think KLDSLR imports them from Japan. It clearly states made in Japan at the back packaging.
It's the 4th gen version, can't remember which year, i think either end of 2014 or 2015.

I think yours one is good quality from Japan but my one is inferior quality from China.


There is more about Eneloop:

http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showth...eries-2005-2016


and also info about acquisition of Eneloop:

http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showth...loop-Technology



So the conclusion is avoid buying the China made Eneloop which import from Panasonic Malaysia and get Japan made Eneloop which import from third parties. Make sure it is Japan Eneloop, not the China Eneloop

I couldn't know this issue until I got the leaking problem with the China made Eneloop

Lol I actually researched and read the forum you posted before last year, so I knew to avoid the China made ones. How much did you pay for yours?

I didn't researched that much and though that Eneloop has good reputation and should be good quality. I paid about RM125 for the organic edition of 1 pack AA and 1 pack AAA. Hopefully the others 7 Eneloop batteries don't have the same leaks issue.

Wow that's expensive. Go to KLDSLR.com
I got mine 2 packs (8 pieces AA) for RM115. They also sell 3 packs for around RM140-150.

Yeah. I noticed yours is cheaper than me and some more it is from Japan

Anyway, I just bought Fujitsu which is manufactured by the ex-Sanyo Eneloop factory in Japan. Made in Japan selling about RM50 after online voucher discount.

This post has been edited by kcks: Jul 22 2016, 08:21 AM