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 Proton Prevé V21, Versione ventuno!

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post Jul 13 2014, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(kulatkia @ Jul 13 2014, 03:53 PM)
Thx. Sound like I have one more defective part have to accepted as normal.... No choice
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Not necessary true. My wife's car seats are very good with no such issues as reported...it is infact very comfortable way way much better than my brother MyVi
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post Jul 13 2014, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Jul 13 2014, 05:19 PM)
I hope you are right as I am planning to get a Preve.

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Just go and claim warranty for new seats if you have those problems reported
My wife's Preve only issue we faced was some creaking noise at back in week one. The service center rectified it within an hour. Till now already 9 months no more such issue

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post Jul 16 2014, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Jul 15 2014, 01:24 PM)
I thought the keyless start is a good thing but now, I am getting confused after reading and watching some youtube videos on starting Preve. Now prefer the normal key.

In my test drive, the sales staff showed me how to start, insert the "thing", press on the brake pedal, press the start button. That is.

On stopping, press on the brake pedal, and press the start/stop button.

This is not the right way?

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Correct way is just a 2 step . Incorrect starting steps can throw the electronics haywire. My friend never bother n always start car in so many different ways that one day his car failed to start

Insert key nob. Press start button n it will lit up yellow
Press brake n once you see lit up as green press start button hard in .
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post Jul 19 2014, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jul 19 2014, 08:19 AM)
tongue.gif  thanks
oo.. thought u book and order ady..  rclxub.gif  hmm.. buy car is depend on our luck 1.. some might got some problem some are not.. depend on people as well.. if ppl are very picky and try to find problem.. but since proton do got many service center, either official or authorised one..

Often issue that we heard is:
1.Disk brake (sound like helicopter)
2. Seat (fabric problem)
3. Sensor problem like VSC, or others
4. engine push start problem?! some cant start suddenly..

just check on these after we get the car.. then others see whether we can find out or not..
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Even my ex boss S Class ( rm800k) broke down in one week on highway. Just unlucky he got a faulty engine. I have been buying cars past 30+ years of so many makes n each of them will have some minor issues. My worst experience was the Nissan Cefiro ( straight 6 cylinder ) n on day one itself the petrol leaked out after pump full due to poorly attached valve. Besides that issue there were no other problems with the car. This Preve already coming 10 months usage only problem was creaking sound at back which was quickly rectified within an hour
Those expecting a 100% perfect car should not even consider buying any car

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post Jul 21 2014, 12:58 PM

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Sorry but hate to comment this : committing oneself to a 9 year HP loan is ridiculous. One should only buy what one can afford. Even a 5 year loan I deemed too long already. Your value of the car would have depreciated so badly than
9 years is a very long commitment for a depreciating asset
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post Jul 21 2014, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Jul 21 2014, 01:48 PM)
haha cannot anymore.. tmr will go take my car ady.. just contact my SA.. i also hope to get the car ASAP but just because drag by the renovation progress.. but done ady by today.. so tmr can take the car..
yes i understand you. but out there as many young ppl cannot really to afford a new car easily with their own financial.. so the only way is drag to 9 years.. its actually depend on person lo.. in accounting term, yes, car will depreciated for 5 years in business.. but in private, probably depreciate by 10 years.. salary in msia average is normal only. but most of capable person will choose for 3 or 5 years loan lo.. since high DP..

example i can give here is most of my friends, some family dont have any car/some have car but not enough transport.. my friends just all graduated and need transport to work.. so mostly family background not so strong.. even 10% dp also some problem.. but they forced to buy a car for work.. that why banker will got 9 years car loan for people..
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My point is one can always settle for a lower value car to reduce the loan...not necessary must buy a 1600cc car as a first car. During my youth it was difficult to get loans. Minimum we need to pay 20-30% downpaynent with interest 11% ( eleven) n max repayment 3 years. I survive on a motorbike for 3 years. I have seen in my 30+ years working many young graduates get themselves early in debt n struggling with no savings even till age 40+!!
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post Aug 1 2014, 08:02 AM

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This car GPS software in one word is simply hopelessly outdated. It is good only in major town n cities. As my wife uses the car mainly in town she doesn't use the GPS at all. At times when I drive it out of town I prefer to use my phablet ( on Sygic or Warez)
When I found out one need to pay to update the software I immediately disregarded it. Proton should at least provide free updates for minimum first 3 years of use.

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QUOTE(afiqsafwan89 @ Aug 2 2014, 12:12 PM)
hi here. sorry for the incoming newbie question.

Is there any differences in preve exec 2013 and 2014 stock? I read in this forum the differences is the 6 airbag. but the sales person said the 2013 also got the same 6 airbag. can anyone clarify this?

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My wife CFE 2013 August model comes with 6 airbags
I suggest you ask the salesguy as he should know better_

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post Aug 3 2014, 08:19 AM

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My wife's Preve even at 5000 km I got free service . Just need to pay for the oil change only. I still send in for service at 5000km even though Proton recommended is 10000km after first 1000km. Strange I did not get any of such free service vouchers with the car. At last 10000 km service is still free. The counter staff did tell me all the warranty services info are in their system and I need not worry about the vouchers.

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post Aug 29 2014, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Aug 29 2014, 07:43 AM)
So this noise from the driver's seat, looks like there are some owners here who experience the same thing.

May i ask if there is anyone who does not have this noise from the driver's seat IN ORIGINAL CONDITION? I am curious to know if there is a defect or design flaw in the driver's seat.
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Absolutely no front seat sound on my wife's Preve CFE just touching a year old
The only issue we had with the car was a slight creaking sound at back seat. In its first week was recticified within an hour at service center . Till today no more such sound
And all the other problems as reported here we do not faced too .
Sometimes issues are due to different batches of supporting materials . If it is design issue all cars will be affected
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post Aug 30 2014, 02:19 PM

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Good tips on starting n switching off. My friend disregard all these n simply start the car each time. One day he couldn't start the car. When he couldn't even tell the service tech how he always start it he was warned about the correct procedure. He was told Incorrect starting procedures consistently will bring havoc to the electronics n will cause such problems. He was told that some users also faced unable to switch off engine too due to consistent incorrect procedures to start/off engine.

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post Sep 3 2014, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Sep 3 2014, 08:36 PM)
Guess there are some minor design flaws that still need to be ironed out by Proton. Just surprised they cannot seem to get some of the basics right, still.
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Never faced such engine shutdown while reversing even on slope. My wife's car CFE model is 13 months old . You should sent it in for checking n I don't think is a Proton widespread issue.

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post Sep 11 2014, 07:26 AM

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QUOTE(predicate undefined @ Sep 11 2014, 06:54 AM)
I ordered red Prevé, SA called me just now he got me black Prevé. He 'think' I ordered black. What should I do?
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Simply refuse it n insist on your red
Some of these sales guys want their commission fast n will tell you need to wait for the color you need
Since he had accepted your red order he must fulfill it


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post Sep 11 2014, 10:01 AM

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I had never bother to ever use cruise control in all the cars I had used. Even on highway you can hardly maintain a constant speed with the traffic in front. I had tried before n had never like it. With regards to fuel consumption I am happy with the CFE model. With a full tank n continuous drive at average 80 km/hr on trunk n 100 km/hr on highway I could cover 750km n indicator still show another 100 km to next refuel. In town driving full tank will hit about 580-600 km before warning light comes on
I would say fc is decently good for a 1.6 Turbo engine car
We never drive our car hard . The car already in its 13th month had been excellent till now with zero problems
Only issue was slight squeaky sound at backseat n that was rectified in week one itself.
Unlike some of you guys I had never bother with the technicalities of driving. I just press the pedal and allow the car to auto control itself. This has always been my driving style past 30+ years on all auto cars I had driven

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QUOTE(blaze91 @ Sep 11 2014, 11:10 AM)
how u managed to get rid of the sound from the seat. Its really annoying..sad.gif
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The service center did it - I saw them removing the back set and I believe they just tighten some stuffs . Till today no more such creaking noises. You should sent in the service center to rectify it
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post Sep 12 2014, 08:27 AM

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Had never even bother to try manual mode. Anyway i don't find the steering any heavy as reported. Even my missus feel is light n better than her previous Cefiro ( first gen 6 cylinder model).
Tried those paddle shifters few times only n never bother with it thereafter. We are just simple casual drivers. My wife don't even know what it is for n she is main driver.
I can see many here are enthusiast drivers exploring it in details. For us is just a car n a mode of transport. It is decently reasonably good car. Too high expectation s from it you get dissapointed.

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QUOTE(sanadi @ Sep 12 2014, 10:41 AM)
Manual mode is useful when going downhill, like from genting. I can maintain ~60 kph just by using the manual mode. No need to press the accelerator or brakes. That seems to be the time when I feel the need for manual mode. I don't need it often, but when I do need it, I'm glad I have it.
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Thanks for the tips. Will keep that in mind if I need it
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QUOTE(terryble @ Sep 12 2014, 10:56 AM)
Well during normal day to day driving, D mode is more than sufficient~~

But...the tip mode (locked paddle shifting mode) can be really fun to drive with for 1) up / down hill,  2) highway, or 3) when overtaking~~the car is like suddenly woke up when u down shift and RPM goes above 3k~~

especially if u really does enjoy the turbo sound, the acceleration and the solid the engine sound the car give u...

not practical during a jam or stop and go situation of coz~~ sweat.gif
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Such stuffs doesn't appeal to me... I am an old chap
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Sep 12 2014, 11:30 AM)
Yes, one may find the steering of the Preve to be light. However, when the steering of the Preve is compared to other vehicles such as Nissan Sylphy or Ford Focus, these steerings are significantly lighter. Of course, it is all relative.

The first generation Cefiro must be quite a difficult vehicle to drive since you mentioned the steering is heavier than the Preve.
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The Slyphy steering is lighter as I had test drive it before and had never like it. Had no experience on the Ford Focus
The Cefiro steering is only slightly heavier and is a very easy car to drive. This is my favourite car and it stays with us for nearly 20 years and on point of sale the buyer was simply amazed at the noiseless literary silent engine. In between I have change several models of Accord and Camry within every 4-5 years and these models can never match the Cefiro superiority. The only major weakness of the Cefiro it drinks petrol in town driving - full tank averaging 400 km only but is good and even better than the Accords/Camry on highway driving. Mine was the first gen straight 6 cylinder engine
As it was not a commonly found car than, we decided to sell it off after 20 years as getting spare parts was a problem. The buyer converted it for drifting purposes
WE paid nearly RM110000 for the Cefiro more than 20+ years ago and the Accord/Camry than was only about RM60k+

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QUOTE(terryble @ Sep 12 2014, 02:26 PM)
haha~~old chap has no joy and excitement in driving a car already?  sweat.gif
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Since young till now same style of driving!! Had been driving since 1980

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