Fast is moot point if one is not ever going to the track. Being fast on our road is inviting traffic summons, which I have no intention of getting it. Hence fast is not high on my priority list, but good handling, good acceleration (power & torgue), good fc numbers are high on my priority list.

Yeah, I will definitely check out Swift 1.6 sport variant this weekend.

Again from a non-hardcore motor sport enthusiast, why spend RM 200K or more if I can find a similar car that cost half of it and still give one the same performance or slightly lower. Again, I am thinking from a reasonable man perspective, not from a fan-boy perspective.

I could use the money saved to mod the car should I chose to.

Thanks, it is darn hard to get a good car, I hope you understand my predicament. I love to enjoy the pleasure of driving but I do not wish to pay a king's ransom for it. Mine is hard earned money and I want to stretch it.

But thanks to all of you guys for engaging me in my banter... through you folks I learn so much more about car. I'll still lurk around this forum and learn more until I find something I like. I am in no hurry, it is after all, a hobby buy.

what it feels now is that you are looking for a cheap car which can does everything from the handling of a lotus elise, to the acceleration of the R35 to the ride comfort of a Maybach and cost no more than a honda civic.. which evidently doesn't quite exist in this world..

so, you need to tie down your requirements in order to filter the list of cars in the market...

Have you watched Chris Harris driving his Citroen 2CV? 12 hp, and he's having the time of his life. You can't lift off in corners, despite massive body roll, because if you lose momentum you'll be slow for the next 10 minutes. The Top Gear guys keep repeating the most fun you can have is in a small, cheap car, because you can drive like a racing driver without ever risking your license. And there are small, "cheap" cars that are fun to drive. I won't forget driving an old Ford Ka. No power milo tin, but boy is it flat in corners. My girlfriends old Fiesta too, it handles pretty well, and the atrocious sound proofing ensure you'll feel like you're driving fast.

I did what you advised and dug out an old contact and invited him for some yumcha over kaya bread and half boiled egg during today's breakfast. He is a track enthusiast.

He told me to forget about buying new GTI/WRX etc. Get the EvoX recon at around RM 170K. He said more outside workshop are familiar with servicing the EvoX than GTI or WRX. Meaning mods are also easier with EvoX. Anything above 2010 model will be good.

GTI / WRX servicing is expensive and not many outside mechanic can do them. What are your guys opinion?

EvoX is a different animal altogether. Is outright speed+traction+track days what you want ONLY? If it is EvoX is a good choice. You'd have to accept the enormously high FC, Saga like interior (maybe a little tiny bit better ), harshest ride even when you are cruising along or stucked in traffic jam. If you are OK with all of that, go ahead. 

Bro, Evo's suspension and Lancer's is a hell of a difference. 

if the tire has that much grip in the first place or the driver slides and hits both outside wheels on the curb.. else, rolling the car is not as easy as everyone thinks it will happen...

those cars ain't the reliant robin anyways...

that one is stunt driving is it?

Eh you serious??WTF is this??