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Are you guys ready for hike in interest rate?, Interest rate rising in July & September
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HuiChyr
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Jul 12 2014, 02:58 PM
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Jul 8 2014, 08:50 AM) Do you think after rate increase, bank will do BLR-2.6% instead of BLR-2.45% now?  I don't exactly know but just my opinion. If sign up rate to loan is dropping = growth rate to collect interest rate drops which sole income to banks. Don't you think banks will go back to BLR +0%? Or worst BLR + 0.x%. Meaning no more minus rate from BLR. You know la this banksters ... they need to report growth income very year ma ....
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HuiChyr
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Jul 12 2014, 03:00 PM
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This post has been edited by HuiChyr: Jul 12 2014, 03:01 PM
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HuiChyr
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Jul 12 2014, 04:13 PM
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Jul 10 2014, 06:06 PM) Increase Liao.... I can hear the crashing sound... Not yet la ... don be too sam kap.... Wait till USA increase rate ...which gonna be long time from now. Then Msia will increase to in tandem. Now Msia GRADUALLY increase meaning they are expecting USA to increase soon... GRADUAL increase no shock to the market ma. ....
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HuiChyr
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Jul 12 2014, 04:18 PM
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QUOTE(den @ Jul 12 2014, 03:02 PM) got happen before meh?  Rate of above 10% happened before. What I'm saying is banks to need to make money ma ... So they move up their profit margin la... meaning BLR/BR/ KLIBOR + x% ..etc
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HuiChyr
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Jul 12 2014, 04:23 PM
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QUOTE(Tigerr @ Jul 12 2014, 03:52 PM) Bank is competing with other....if u BLR-0% while another BLR-2.4%, u know which bank to go lor....guess u ll be queuing to get the loan there Competing rate bcoz there many new signees for loan ma. Now already dwindling, they focus on EXISTING customers with loan to squeeze money from them.
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HuiChyr
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Jul 12 2014, 11:46 PM
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QUOTE(justjerm @ Jul 12 2014, 10:24 PM) Very heated discussion.. I think in the end, if you feel you can afford it, go for it.. Nobody can predict the future, only can learn from history. They will always be someone who need a cash, they will sell below everyone else.. If the person can hold, then won't sell cheap lor.. For me, I will just do my research on the area and if feel comfortable buying now, then just buy....  But future price drop, just feel sakit for while but eventually price will go back up. My 2 cents only..  Yup .. that should be the way investment is done. The comfort zone is within the scope of your own financial capability.
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HuiChyr
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Jul 12 2014, 11:50 PM
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QUOTE(shaquenator @ Jul 12 2014, 10:35 PM) couldnt agree more. looking at his way of begging bear bear wong to buy, it indeed is. it's kinda stupid and i mean honestly retarded to try to influence ppl here by how they "compliment" people of wealth accumulation property can do. sometimes, when the majority cant afford, they just CANT no matter what sweets you want to put to them. and what's more worst is they advise if you cant afford it, go and find more work to gain income...  JUST TO BUY A PROPERTY ??? as stupid as it sounds, i would rather dont buy that house and probably keep saving money(and sometimes opportunities does come along the way, you dont know the future) than to buy it out of "i want to have a house just like everyone" and regret it later that you are a fool to buy that house and give that profit to the seller and few years later struggling to pay for that loan, when you not sure of you can even sustain the loan, and if not it will be lelong and you go back to square one. and by saying this, suddenly those retards label you as a doom person.  Not too sure if you followed the forum "4 Critical Signs of Bubble Market .... V1 -7" Bear2 is the leader for DDD camp. And ManutGiggs has been cajoling Bear2 to buy .... well, coz Bear2 & his GF been looking for a place of their own. It's a frenly banter between Bear2 and Manutgiggs. So take it easy bro. ....
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HuiChyr
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Jul 13 2014, 12:04 AM
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Jul 12 2014, 11:55 PM) sadly, property prices are greedily up because initially the profit was " just mere profit as investment", then suddenly read many positive comments from LYN, it become "retirement plan profit". Sometimes it has to do with luck too. For example, my fren was looking for a house in Putra Heights. Average price was RM750K. But he found one old woman planning to sell and move in with son & family after the husband past away. She sold it for RM500K. So situation like this do happen. That property was around RM250K when launched. So buying property for own-stay within your budeget is important. For investment, I would agree with you. TOO EXPENSIVE liao. ... best invest in other stuffs. That's not to say those who already bought properties for investment will definitely burn. That too depends on their financial ability. If you invest too heavily with not much monthly income to sustain ... sure cia lat lor.
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HuiChyr
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Jul 13 2014, 12:16 AM
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Jul 13 2014, 12:10 AM) this is the whole idea, i do not propose one to sit down adn wait till the sky to come down. and i disagree that waiting property price to drop is not as hard as waiting for Miss Hong Kong. to be correct , investment from the flipped properties cannot work already, and now, even developers launch also cannot already.. having say that, owners and agents are trying to create/standardizing the price around areas to be at certain figure (which is definitely higher) , thus causing one to believe that is the price, when in fact it was not.. I hope buyers will wait and see at least after September, i think most purchasers are already on their waiting mode be it investment or own stay.. i know some agents 7 months no sale di.. living on credit cards cash advance..  So you already ready your bullets to repo them is it .... Hahahaha...
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HuiChyr
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Jul 13 2014, 12:41 AM
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OK ... lets put in persperctive about this thread .... The interest rate (IR)
Yes ... up by 25 basis point doesn't count for too much in monthly installment. But this is where the speculation begins. Why? and What will happen?
Why? It has to do with foreign exchange rate. If BNM maintain low IR, there will be a shock to the economic system when USA increase their IR. Hot money will leave our shores and price/inflation will increase. Ppl will suffer when food (& other stuff) prices go up. Property too.
Not too long, hot money left the emerging markets but BNM managed to fence of drastic exchange rate movement with our foreign reserve fund. BNM cannot afford to rely on that ALL the time. So interest rate must go up.
Many economists are expecting USA to increase their IR after tapering but still very speculative. Chances are very high. That's why BNM increase it GRADUALLY ... 25 basis point at a time. That will depends how the economy is doing and adapting to the increase.
Imagine when USA increase interest rate and BNM suddenly increase 75 basis point the next day .... the shock will shake the market.
What will happen? IF and only IF BNM keep increasing IR in 3 times at 25 point each time. It will slow down the market for sure but the expectation of increase prepare businesses and speculators to the event. NO shock to the market ... but how businesses or individuals with high debt ratio survive .... more will die. Others with strong income or cash holding will survive. So it depends on own financial ability.
So the significance to IR increase is the beginning of what's to come. It may not show any effect yet but it'll be show in time. Question is 25 basis point x 3, is it enuf? How much will USA increase their IR? That is yet to know.
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