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TSRiena_988
post Jul 7 2014, 08:14 AM, updated 12y ago

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Hi all,

I am about to become a coursework-based postgraduate student in UM soon. I realize most of the undergraduate students, including me, know only a little surface of how a coursework-based master looks like. I guess we would like to know the system on how this academia is working, especially for the research projects we are about to conducting soon after we studied (for few semesters I guess). How are we supposed to conduct the research projects and usually when shall we begin? What are the significant differences between a research project and the research conducted by research-based master?

Anyone here, especially those who are experienced please share your experience here with us. Thank you.
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post Jul 7 2014, 08:27 AM

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Hey there, will embark on the same journey soon. Applied to do my postgraduate in International Business. As for your question, I myself have no idea really, just have to wait and see. Will definitely monitor this thread for a while.

Thanks for starting it, cheers!
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post Jul 7 2014, 08:33 AM

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I'm in my final semester for Engineering Management.

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In a nutshell for me at least, it's like degree course, classes plus research/projects.
Of course difficulty level increased la

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post Jul 7 2014, 08:47 AM

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Glad to see that you're still sane from the whole ordeal. What are hours like for you friend?
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post Jul 7 2014, 12:07 PM

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The research project in a coursework-based master's degree is not as rigorous as a 100% research-based master's degree.
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post Jul 9 2014, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(apache_utara @ Jul 7 2014, 08:33 AM)
I'm in my final semester for Engineering Management.

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In a nutshell for me at least, it's like degree course, classes plus research/projects.
Of course difficulty level increased la

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ooo.....So I should mentally prepare for that~ laugh.gif ~Where are you study o? And when did your research/projects start? Semester 3? Or before that? I think the classes will be arranged in weekends right? This is what I have seen from few years time table lar.... because most of the students are part time study (working ma). Mind to share share here....
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QUOTE(Blofeld @ Jul 7 2014, 12:07 PM)
The research project in a coursework-based master's degree is not as rigorous as a 100% research-based master's degree.
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This I have to disagree.
For me, no distinction between level of difficulties as it depends on your topic, supervisor attitude, & uni requirements.

I'm doing coursework, my supervisor was an Iranian. Damn painful to work with because he wants it to done HIS way.

So, after 1 year of trying to make it work, I changed topic & supervisor (after appeal because he objected to Dean).
Now happily doing my thesis with new supervisor who's very supportive and expected to publish next month.

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QUOTE(Riena_988 @ Jul 9 2014, 09:47 AM)
ooo.....So I should mentally prepare for that~ laugh.gif ~Where are you study o? And when did your research/projects start? Semester 3? Or before that? I think the classes will be arranged in weekends right? This is what I have seen from few years time table lar.... because most of the students are part time study (working ma). Mind to share share here....
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I'm in Uniten Bangi, my classes all after working hours which is why I took it, I hate weekend classes
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I took full time, 2 years.
Research can start anytime, up to you, if you think you can finish in 1 semester, then good la, but my colleagues who did that all zombie doh.gif


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post Jul 9 2014, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(apache_utara @ Jul 9 2014, 10:59 AM)
This I have to disagree.
For me, no distinction between level of difficulties as it depends on your topic, supervisor attitude, & uni requirements.

I'm doing coursework, my supervisor was an Iranian. Damn painful to work with because he wants it to done HIS way.

So, after 1 year of trying to make it work, I changed topic & supervisor (after appeal because he objected to Dean).
Now happily doing my thesis with new supervisor who's very supportive and expected to publish next month.

laugh.gif
I'm in Uniten Bangi, my classes all after working hours which is why I took it, I hate weekend classes
tongue.gif

I took full time, 2 years.
Research can start anytime, up to you, if you think you can finish in 1 semester, then good la, but my colleagues who did that all zombie  doh.gif
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Haha. If your supervisor is giving you the hard time, then it's true on your part that there is no difference. laugh.gif

But I have seen clear differences when I skim through thesis from coursework and those thesis from research based.
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post Jul 9 2014, 12:43 PM

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QUOTE(apache_utara @ Jul 9 2014, 10:59 AM)
This I have to disagree.
For me, no distinction between level of difficulties as it depends on your topic, supervisor attitude, & uni requirements.

I'm doing coursework, my supervisor was an Iranian. Damn painful to work with because he wants it to done HIS way.

So, after 1 year of trying to make it work, I changed topic & supervisor (after appeal because he objected to Dean).
Now happily doing my thesis with new supervisor who's very supportive and expected to publish next month.

laugh.gif
I'm in Uniten Bangi, my classes all after working hours which is why I took it, I hate weekend classes
tongue.gif

I took full time, 2 years.
Research can start anytime, up to you, if you think you can finish in 1 semester, then good la, but my colleagues who did that all zombie  doh.gif
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@@~shocking.gif~ That means you started your research once you just 1st sem lar? because full time 2 years. 1 year you try to make it work to change supervisor, leaving also 1 or 2 sems for you only to conduct project~ I plan to study coursework is because I need to "research" on possible supervisor 1st for 1 sem, then I will start project for next sem or 3 sem. Takut supervisor have a bad cooperation relation with me.
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QUOTE(Blofeld @ Jul 9 2014, 11:54 AM)
Haha. If your supervisor is giving you the hard time, then it's true on your part that there is no difference.  laugh.gif

But I have seen clear differences when I skim through thesis from coursework and those thesis from research based.
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Yup,

On paper looks easy but from experience, reality can be deceiving tongue.gif


QUOTE(Riena_988 @ Jul 9 2014, 12:43 PM)
@@~shocking.gif~ That means you started your research once you just 1st sem lar? because full time 2 years. 1 year you try to make it work to change supervisor, leaving also 1 or 2 sems for you only to conduct project~ I plan to study coursework is because I need to "research" on possible supervisor 1st for 1 sem, then I will start project for next sem or 3 sem. Takut supervisor have a bad cooperation relation with me.
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Exactly,

That's why i started early, so i can accommodate that "risk".

But if you're lucky & okay with your supervisor, 1 semester also can finish but no sleep la sweat.gif sweat.gif
2 semesters is just nice for masters level research paper.


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QUOTE(Riena_988 @ Jul 7 2014, 08:14 AM)
How are we supposed to conduct the research projects and usually when shall we begin? What are the significant differences between a research project and the research conducted by research-based master?
Hi Riena,

Care to tell us your engineering field? You don't go straightaway into the research. You are likely to receive training on how to think like a Scientist and set the Research Goals & Objectives with your academic advisor. Before you carry out your first experiment in the lab, you would be well advised to spend some time in the library and subscribed databases doing a thorough literature search of your research topic. The following courses are commonly provided to graduate students at the beginning of the program.

(1) Research Design and Methodology - How to design experiments or study how things work

(2) A Scientific Approach to Writing for Engineers - How to write and publish research papers

(3) Statistical Methods & Data Analysis - condensing a large number of observations into a summary set of statistics

(4) Computational Modeling & Simulation - conducting experiments on the model of a large-scale or complex system

(5) Engineering Mathematics - refreshing Linear Algebra, Differential Equations, Numerical Methods, Optimization

(6) Mechanics of <engineering field of research> - the science of things in your field of research
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post Jul 14 2014, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(Critical_Fallacy @ Jul 13 2014, 02:37 AM)
Hi Riena,

Care to tell us your engineering field? You don't go straightaway into the research. You are likely to receive training on how to think like a Scientist and set the Research Goals & Objectives with your academic advisor. Before you carry out your first experiment in the lab, you would be well advised to spend some time in the library and subscribed databases doing a thorough literature search of your research topic. The following courses are commonly provided to graduate students at the beginning of the program.

(1) Research Design and Methodology - How to design experiments or study how things work

(2) A Scientific Approach to Writing for Engineers - How to write and publish research papers

(3) Statistical Methods & Data Analysis - condensing a large number of observations into a summary set of statistics

(4) Computational Modeling & Simulation - conducting experiments on the model of a large-scale or complex system

(5) Engineering Mathematics - refreshing Linear Algebra, Differential Equations, Numerical Methods, Optimization

(6) Mechanics of <engineering field of research> - the science of things in your field of research
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Hi,

Erm, my engineering field is in Mechanical but if you meant the field of my research topic, I won't be getting a research topic until I get my academic supervisor right? I have seen the time table for the previous years. The research methodology began on the second semester. Or is it depends on my own preference to study it earlier?


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post Jul 14 2014, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(Critical_Fallacy @ Jul 13 2014, 02:37 AM)
Hi Riena,

Care to tell us your engineering field? You don't go straightaway into the research. You are likely to receive training on how to think like a Scientist and set the Research Goals & Objectives with your academic advisor. Before you carry out your first experiment in the lab, you would be well advised to spend some time in the library and subscribed databases doing a thorough literature search of your research topic. The following courses are commonly provided to graduate students at the beginning of the program.

(1) Research Design and Methodology - How to design experiments or study how things work

(2) A Scientific Approach to Writing for Engineers - How to write and publish research papers

(3) Statistical Methods & Data Analysis - condensing a large number of observations into a summary set of statistics

(4) Computational Modeling & Simulation - conducting experiments on the model of a large-scale or complex system

(5) Engineering Mathematics - refreshing Linear Algebra, Differential Equations, Numerical Methods, Optimization

(6) Mechanics of <engineering field of research> - the science of things in your field of research
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Since there are selective courses, should I do it before getting an academic supervisor or select them carefully after having a research topic? What advices should you give?
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QUOTE(Riena_988 @ Jul 14 2014, 12:14 PM)
Erm, my engineering field is in Mechanical but if you meant the field of my research topic, I won't be getting a research topic until I get my academic supervisor right? 
True, but you are advised to have a desired research topic in mind before you have chosen to work in a particular research group, under the guidance of a particular advisor. This way you can discuss with your advisor if your idea is feasible. You probably won't like it when your advisor forces his/her topic on you, especially if you are uninterested.

Start by searching popular and comprehensive databases such as IEEE Xplore, ScienceDirect, SpringerLink, Taylor & Francis, and Wiley-Blackwell. Your university library should have a subscription to some of these and other databases that are password protected. Download and copy the articles that are the most pertinent to the Mechanical Engineering field. As you get more involved in your search, you will start to a get a feel for the important researchers in the field.

QUOTE(Riena_988 @ Jul 14 2014, 12:14 PM)
I have seen the time table for the previous years. The research methodology began on the second semester. Or is it depends on my own preference to study it earlier?
It depends on whether you are allowed to take more than 15 credit hours, or if the RM course is available on the first term. Anyhow, you should discuss this matter with the program coordinator.

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Since there are selective courses, should I do it before getting an academic supervisor or select them carefully after having a research topic? What advices should you give?
CORE ::
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1. Applied Heat Transfer
2. Applied Thermodynamics
3. Computational Mathematics
4. Applied Mechanics
5. Project Management for Engineers
6. Research Methodology

ELECTIVE ::
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1. Computer-Aided Design
2. Energy Efficiency
3. HVAC
4. Tribology
5. Control & Automation
6. Internal Combustion Engine
7. Renewable Energy
8. Finite Element Analysis
9. Materials Selection & Fabrication
10. Fatigue and Failure Analysis

From the table, you are required to complete 6 core courses and 4 electives by the second term. If you intend to do Mini Research Project, you should select the electives carefully. From the list, the electives generally are divided into two categories: Product Design and System Design. Control system is the heart of many electromechanical systems and mechatronic devices. Therefore, if you take an interest in System Design, elective priority shall be given to E5, Control & Automation. You should also pick up Computation Fluid Dynamics (CFD).

On the other hand, if you like to create new products, elective priority shall be given to E8. Mechanical design is the design of a component for optimum size, shape, etc., against failure under the application of operational loads. A good design should also minimize the cost of material and cost of production. For example, optimum beam design is achieved by analyzing the entire structure which naturally considers finite stiffness of the columns, based on their dimensions and material, at its ends. This approach is followed in the Finite Element Method (FEM).

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E4. Tribology
E8. Finite Element Analysis
E9. Materials Selection & Fabrication
E10. Fatigue and Failure Analysis

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E5. Control & Automation
E6. Internal Combustion Engine
E7. Renewable Energy
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QUOTE(Riena_988 @ Jul 14 2014, 12:28 PM)
What advices should you give?
As you embark on your literature search, you may feel quickly overwhelmed by the pile of papers you accumulate, especially there are many sub-disciplines of Mechanical Engineering. Typically, Mechanical Engineering has 5 major sub-disciplines (ABCDE), which are listed below:

(1) Active Noise & Vibration Control (Acoustics)
(2) Biomechanics & Biosystems
(3) Computational Mechanics (Fluid, Solid, Transport Phenomena)
(4) Design, Manufacturing, & Product Development
(5) Energy Systems Engineering (Thermodynamics)

Other overlapping contemporary fields such as Mechatronics, Aerospace, Robotics, Automotive, and Nanotechnology are sometimes grouped with Mechanical engineering. So, keep in mind that it is impossible to read all the research ever published in the journals. Being selective about what you read is key to getting a thorough overview of a particular field, without drowning in too much information.

Another excellent way to get started with your literature search is to read recent review articles published on your topic of interest. Reviews do not present new and original data, they are compilations of other people’s work, but very often written by a big name scientist in the field. Review articles can be a goldmine of information and will significantly help you with your literature search by cutting down on the amount of time you have to search out individual research articles.

As a Mechanical Engineering student. you must read this article, “The State of Mechanical Engineering: Today and Beyond.” ASME (American Society of Mechanical Engineers) sought to provide an accurate picture of the current attitudes of today’s engineers as well as their expectations on the future of the engineering profession. icon_idea.gif
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Hi,
I was a part time master student (coursework) and at the same time working as engineer. For me master class is just as degree class with the scope wide a little.
The benefit of taking coursework while working is that what you learn is what you apply daily during your daily job.
The only downside is that time management, really need to spend most of my time with assignment etc. This will become worst during thesis where more time need to be allocate for research and data collection etc.

 

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