Ok, time for me to write a proposal for procuring and stockpile latest Metis and Kornet for the ATGM!
Singapore Buys Merkava Mk 4 Tanks From Israel, Contarct Purchase For 50 Tanks
Singapore Buys Merkava Mk 4 Tanks From Israel, Contarct Purchase For 50 Tanks
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Jul 4 2014, 07:08 PM
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Ok, time for me to write a proposal for procuring and stockpile latest Metis and Kornet for the ATGM!
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Jul 4 2014, 10:32 PM
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Jul 4 2014, 11:05 PM
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Jul 5 2014, 02:01 AM
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Jul 5 2014, 02:22 AM
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QUOTE(MasBoleh! @ Jul 5 2014, 02:18 AM) there are many reason although me personally of them prefer the T90 the economic offset and barter is one of the main selling point since I know one of the person that involved with the procurement so according to him, the PT91 that give the best offer at that time but since this is a pioneer regiment, the pt91 is a good platform to start |
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Jul 5 2014, 02:34 AM
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QUOTE(MasBoleh! @ Jul 5 2014, 02:27 AM) Hmm, if compares T90 and PT91 togethwer with Merkava of Israel and M1 Abrams. Are we on the same league? since there is no real engagement so it is very hard to sayWhat i am asking is , are we able to fight head-on with them? Or Israel and US main battle tank basically much stronger and has more advantages over the Russian and Poland? there is no battle that involved a modern new generation T-72 chassis in a long time - the Assad Ababil tank regiment is not the same league with the PT91 - yes they are based on the same chassis, but even the most basic material compound of the metal is different Merkava have been in a real battle for a long time, each time the tank goes into battle all the tank will be analyze inch to inch I remember seeing the picture of merkava turned turtle and according to the report the tank was shot by the kornet that why we can see how tank defense get a huge leap since the 2006 war head on? in our turf? since me a little bias so yes we have slight advantage since our doctrine of tank is to defend key points area and fast and agile movement in the battle field |
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Jul 5 2014, 02:38 AM
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QUOTE(supergen3 @ Jul 5 2014, 02:32 AM) Interesting question. I am sure the Malaysian army have wargame such scenario. Any insider can give a quick brief? not much, since we are still learning the trade of operating the tankthis is our first time operating MBT. So I believe we are still building the warfare doctrine the pendekar can actually move in the hilly and mountainous estate very swift based on the last ex rhino |
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Jul 5 2014, 02:45 AM
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QUOTE(MasBoleh! @ Jul 5 2014, 02:36 AM) nope I dont think the Polish have ever been in combat, T90 only been into war once iinm in early 2000 kotbut on paper T90 is very superior weii! T90 can fly and shoot, no need to buy attack chopper no more ![]() |
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Jul 5 2014, 02:53 AM
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QUOTE(MasBoleh! @ Jul 5 2014, 02:48 AM) Doctrine is like a set of plan right? Fascinating. Yep,But then if it is combat proven, it did be deadly haha. So far what is the Malaysian plan for ATM? Since SG just acquired 50 Israeli's tanks? Plan for ATM? brb writing proposal to Najib like I said in the previous post stock up ATGM, a good spam of ATGM is the best way to defeat a tank esp when the tank is lured away during the bosnian war, many of the serbian tank were disabled and tank crew were captured or killed by a only group of 6 - 8 foot soldier they lured the tank away, and spam anti tank like there is no tomorrow, and during the havoc, 1 or 2 of them climb onto the tank and open up the hatch before drop in a grenade! |
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Jul 5 2014, 03:06 AM
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QUOTE(MasBoleh! @ Jul 5 2014, 02:58 AM) Eh interesting.. i didn't know that. Thanks for telling me haha. yep, and of couse attack chopper tooSO the proposal shall be stocking up ATGM eh? Well, is there a plan for battle chopper? attack chopper is a one of the main weakness of the tank apache is made for that purpose in mind. my vote for zulu cobra |
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Jul 5 2014, 03:21 AM
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QUOTE(MasBoleh! @ Jul 5 2014, 03:19 AM) haha Isn't it Apache more deadly? Although the cost can be expensive. the radar longbow is now can be fitted to the cobraEh interesting, both of you have different opinion. It seem like SG got better air superiority as compares to our TUDM. ATGM only effectively to counter tank, aren't we suppose to acquire those equipment that can help us on our current situation which is to secure the coast of Sabah? and cobra also can carry the same missile as the apache! soo why pay more |
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Jul 5 2014, 06:56 AM
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Jul 5 2014, 01:58 PM
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QUOTE(James Bum @ Jul 5 2014, 07:53 AM) How can msia allow SG to make purchase of the same tanks used to kill Palestinians? Don't we always say we support the Palestinian cause? Can't we naval blockade delivery of those tanks? biar laaa duit depaSG is contributing resources for Israel to continue their oppression on palestin and what are we and Indonesia doing? Nothing? singaporean are very supportive in their military procurement not like Malaysia nih 2 askar mati kat highway macam2 lawak boleh buat QUOTE(frossonice @ Jul 5 2014, 11:35 AM) Or Malaysia could end up buying this, Why not!http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ah7poBYzg3s/Uvdu...s1600/PL-01.jpg From the same company that sold us the PT-91M. The thing is, Malaysia started this MBT purchases back then when we bought Pendekar. Singapore got agitated and quickly bought Leopards. Indonesia for no apparent reason, did the same with Singapore. See, Singapore cannot be less then their neighbors. The want to be on top always. lawo ape! |
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Jul 5 2014, 03:15 PM
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QUOTE(Avex @ Jul 5 2014, 02:03 PM) woah, we got our first volunteera black covered van will come pick you up in a moment QUOTE(MasBoleh! @ Jul 5 2014, 02:17 PM) macam rupa Metis M jeThis post has been edited by atreyuangel: Jul 5 2014, 03:18 PM |
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Jul 5 2014, 06:48 PM
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QUOTE(MasBoleh! @ Jul 5 2014, 05:20 PM) After watching the Merkava documentary, i found that they failed terribly during the Lebanese war in 2006 i think. They even now they not sure what is the role of Merkava. the 06 war really took Israel by surprise, I remember that in one point no foot soldier are able to enter Lebanon due to sniper threat QUOTE(Zarazagoza @ Jul 5 2014, 05:34 PM) i tot the main reason they designed merkava is for the survival of their most important asset, experienced crew. even so, when a heavy puncher like kornet was aimed at a very close range, there are not much they can do! |
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Jul 5 2014, 11:30 PM
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QUOTE(nazrul90 @ Jul 5 2014, 10:55 PM) Type 10 too advanced and too expensive lor well, if it is for me then the AMX Leclerc¥954 million = $11.3 million(USD?) imagine 50 units of this could be cost wish Malaysia could take the FV4034 Challenger 2 but that tank stop produce already ![]() since the PT91 are using the same system including the firing system we do not need another familiarization phase before it become fully operational but the tank is close to 60 tonne ![]() |
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Jul 6 2014, 07:38 AM
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Jul 6 2014, 07:45 AM
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QUOTE(ichi_24 @ Jul 6 2014, 07:42 AM) well we stick what we choose pinoy kebabs eh? me loike!pt 91m is already good as it is what we really need is more maritime machine/equipment that bloody pinoy pirate is irritating, remove pinoy kebab from premises! errr tarak sapa nak adopt into country ball ka? aku tara update jika our tank doctrine is already complete or not if the doctrine is complete, we should on our way to have the 2nd batch no matter if another pendekar or a batch of new one! |
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