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KYPMbangi
post Jul 4 2014, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(phunkydude @ Jul 4 2014, 08:05 PM)
after airdrop all 50 tanks at our targeted military bases, still no ones get alerted.
TUDM radar cakap itu bukan hostile, so don't bother alert anyone.
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Air drop a 65tonne merkava? Boleh pass itu weed tak? brows.gif brows.gif
KYPMbangi
post Jul 5 2014, 01:33 AM

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QUOTE(mirage2000 @ Jul 5 2014, 01:22 AM)
well, MBT operating in SEA aint gonna maneuver en mass like the desert of arabian or the rolling plains of europa

they gonna use as heavily armoured mobile bunker with superior firepower to support infantry and vice versa or holding key routes like bridges
just like the US marines 4 tank platoon doctrine. there's thousands of km of plantation roads, trunk roads,and all the tank commander is to do is to trample thru the jungle.. rclxub.gif
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Take experience with thailand, they're the most experienced user of tanks in the SEA region, all their tanks US and russian made is kept under 50ton weight limit as they already knew how it works in the tropics
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post Jul 5 2014, 02:19 AM

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QUOTE(mirage2000 @ Jul 5 2014, 02:01 AM)
thai's 46ton T-84 tank track ground pressure of 0.93kg/cm2 versus 65ton merkava of 0.96kg/cm2 dont make much difference
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Thailand reason is that in rural areas the infras like bridges and untarred roads would not be able to support these heavyweight class tanks
Ground pressure won't mean a thing if a tank can't cross a bridge that won't be able to support it
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post Jul 5 2014, 02:24 AM

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QUOTE(MasBoleh! @ Jul 5 2014, 02:18 AM)
I realize our main battle tanks were from Poland , how come ATM decided to purchase PT-91 Twardy?  hmm.gif
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Most convenient deal, can pay in palm oil
The only other tanks in selection is T-90, T-84 and K1
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post Jul 5 2014, 02:37 AM

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QUOTE(MasBoleh! @ Jul 5 2014, 02:27 AM)
Hmm, if compares T90 and PT91 togethwer with Merkava of Israel and M1 Abrams. Are we on the same league?

What i am asking is , are we able to fight head-on with them? Or Israel and US main battle tank basically much stronger and has more advantages over the Russian and Poland?  hmm.gif
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It's all about the doctrine bro, nowadays tank vs tank is very2 unlikely or even near unrealistic
Even warfare expert is envisioning the obsolete of tanks usage in armored thrust as they can be bogged down with just a few ATGM teams
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post Jul 5 2014, 03:06 AM

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QUOTE(MasBoleh! @ Jul 5 2014, 02:58 AM)
Eh interesting.. i didn't know that. Thanks for telling me haha.

SO the proposal shall be stocking up ATGM eh? Well, is there a plan for battle chopper?  hmm.gif  hmm.gif  Last time you guys mentioned about the need of such choppers. Especially for LD operation
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No use using attack helis if the enemy got the upper hand in air power

Prolly the ATM's next move is to acquire top-attack profile ATGM, or heavyweight class ATGM, or even laser-designated artillery munitions
It's a neverending game of cat and mouse
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post Jul 5 2014, 03:29 AM

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QUOTE(MasBoleh! @ Jul 5 2014, 03:19 AM)
Eh interesting, both of you have different opinion. It seem like SG got better air superiority as compares to our TUDM. ATGM only effectively to counter tank, aren't we suppose to acquire those equipment that can help us on our current situation which is to secure the coast of Sabah?  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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Different pipul, different opinion

Attack heli is only advantageous against lower tech enemies, in this case is perfect for those suluk but not so much against SAF

It's all about the cost and budget, sure ATGM can also be used for soft skinned targets (humans, cars, sampans) but it's also darn expensive
What we need for sabah is more naval and marine asset, which the gomen is not so keen to provide, again cost and budget..
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post Jul 5 2014, 03:46 AM

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QUOTE(dadurtyz @ Jul 5 2014, 03:42 AM)
Those heavy tank can easyly tapau by javelin, sraw, kornet and others ATGM lar, 50 in that island, mau sorok mana
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Actually their tanks not all stored in the island-state at all, some is actually stored in India and Australia,
Pretty much an open secret, just the number stored overseas is confidential

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