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Technical Xbox 360 Heat Problem, Heat cold cycles cause 3 red lights

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TSDothan
post Aug 19 2006, 02:02 AM

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The power brick is really big man!!
Anyway, did you guys touch the left side of the xbox (in vertical) or bottom (in horizontal) and feel quite hot?
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post Aug 19 2006, 08:15 AM

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QUOTE(Dothan @ Aug 19 2006, 02:02 AM)
The power brick is really big man!!
Anyway, did you guys touch the left side of the xbox (in vertical) or bottom (in horizontal) and feel quite hot?
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yup, is hot just like ur pc mother board.
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post Aug 19 2006, 08:29 AM

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well that is the closest side to the CPU so yea it would be pretty hot. dont worry thats normal. just play untill (god forbid) it freeze biggrin.gif
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post Aug 19 2006, 11:25 AM

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Hi All,
I had googled around and found some solutions to our xbox 360 heat problem.

1. Nyko Intercooler (USD 19.99)
http://www.nyko.com/nyko/products/?i=71

2. Pelican Fan Stand (USD 24.95 at liksang.com)
http://www.pelicanacc.com/

Review on both Nyko and Pelican:
http://console.hardocp.com/article.html?ar...CxoY29uc29sZQ==

3. Koolance water cooler (USD 358.99 shocking.gif )
http://www.koolance.com/shop/product_info....products_id=329

4. Coolitsystems (unknown price, not found in its website)
http://gaming.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=4227

4. Notebook cooling pad (variable pricing sweat.gif )

5. Our traditional desk fan icon_rolleyes.gif

Hopefully djinn bro can do bulk for xbox 360 cooler notworthy.gif

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post Aug 19 2006, 11:31 AM

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Intercooler~. I didn't use it anymore~ due to so much "news" said they use it and ends up dead.

watercooler is my way hehe. but I need cash first tongue.gif
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post Aug 19 2006, 08:16 PM

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master djin. should la you able to install that watercooler can you install on mine ka?
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post Aug 19 2006, 09:19 PM

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QUOTE(necromanser @ Aug 19 2006, 08:16 PM)
master djin. should la you able to install that watercooler can you install on mine ka?
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I would suggest djinn to do a bulk for xbox 360 water cooling device together with installation fest. I will definitely get one from him rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(necromanser @ Aug 19 2006, 08:16 PM)
master djin. should la you able to install that watercooler can you install on mine ka?
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aiyoh doh.gif don't call me master la~. djinn enough liaw.. normal~.. tongue.gif if I install my one sucessful (if sucess tongue.gif ) then I install for you also no problem la

QUOTE(Dothan @ Aug 19 2006, 09:19 PM)
I would suggest djinn to do a bulk for xbox 360 water cooling device together with installation fest. I will definitely get one from him  rclxm9.gif
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can also~. but as you can see.. or should I said. you already mention the price~. no much people will do water cooler~ still over price. shall wait until people kept on coming out new model so can buy cheap,
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post Aug 20 2006, 05:29 PM

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lol...master djinn laugh.gif looks like apprentice recruitment is on fr the Dark Side tongue.gif
wooo..im up fr water cooling too if djinn can bring it in whistling.gif
TSDothan
post Aug 21 2006, 11:16 AM

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Hi All,
With some research on hot air gun method to fix the 0102 3 red lights of death. I found out the root cause of this problem.

Due to excessive heat produce at the GPU (332 millions transistors) and it is covered by a normal aluminium heatsink. Furthermore, our 12x DVDROM also produces heat. The heat & cold cycle will eventually cause mechanical stress on 360 PCB. The soldering points will develop cold solder joint effect which will cause no current flow to our RAM chips, GPU and etc. Thus, the curse of 3 red lights of death will happen!

FYI, you may read the blog and the link provided by the blog.
Cold Solder Joint Weblog by Calvin Hsia
Cold Solder Joints (Technical article)

I think believe MS should use a socket to secure the GPU and the CPU rather than solder on the board (like our normal PC motherboard). But this creates another problem, modder will have fun on the board tongue.gif
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post Aug 22 2006, 08:52 AM

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Just another update on xbox 360 cooling.

XCM 360 High speed aircooler with LCD temperature display
Link

Not bad though but will void your warranty smile.gif
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post Oct 11 2006, 11:37 PM

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hmm..i think i've asked this last year..but i'll ask again now.

they're so many stories about the 3 red lights (of death) which is usually caused by overheating, if not hardware failure.

even some seniors/experienced lyn forumers get these problems..

so how stable is this x360 really is? i mean like, are these problems zeroed in on an early batch of x360s..or is it still happening to later batches too? i just hope and pray hard that i won't get this much trouble when finally getting hands on a set.

also..does provision of good ventilation for the psu and the x360 set itself, enough to avoid overheating/3 red lights?

man i'm scared reading those horror stories..(nama pun horror stories)

then again..even the ps1 had its fair share of overheating..but luckily i didn't get that prob..only when the motor for the lens gave out that i had to change it. same goes for my ps2. hopefully my luck will remain with an x360.. sweat.gif

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post Oct 11 2006, 11:59 PM

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Let's take a test...

How many gamer tags are there in the registry topic?
How many people have had their console killed by the 3 red lights?

From there you can see that there really aren't that many horror stories, Just keep your power supply and unit properly ventilated. I don't have an AC room to play in, the 360 just sits in a normal AV cabinet (doors opened of course) and I could still play DR and survive for 5 days.. no problems!
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post Oct 12 2006, 11:38 AM

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^ aight..kewl! i'll just keep that thing ventilated then. biasala bro..orang baru in x360 world..takut the console die on me..hehehe

thanks again for clarification!
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post Oct 12 2006, 11:43 AM

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Mine died after playing ChromeHounds. Inspected the CPU, part of the die turns bluish (like the effect you get with titanium exhaust tip).
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post Oct 15 2006, 12:31 PM

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hmm..just a question..

maybe i wasn't aware but has MS released the 2nd batch of x360s? i mean, i read in another thread here that supposedly, 2006 sets are more stable? true ka?


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post Oct 23 2006, 01:18 PM

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2006 batch from MS is the one to fix firmware mod tongue.gif
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post Oct 27 2006, 10:14 PM

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hey guys..since i'm cheap...i thought of buying a usb fan and pointing it towards the right side of the x360 (when in horizontal)..the fan should be blowing tht way right? so tht the hot air blows out the back?

u guys think it's a worthy investment..or shud i go with a better cooling system?

sound off bros! smile.gif
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post Oct 28 2006, 01:43 AM

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QUOTE(Sd-RawK-Cab25 @ Oct 27 2006, 10:14 PM)
hey guys..since i'm cheap...i thought of buying a usb fan and pointing it towards the right side of the x360 (when in horizontal)..the fan should be blowing tht way right? so tht the hot air blows out the back?

u guys think it's a worthy investment..or shud i go with a better cooling system?

sound off bros!  smile.gif
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That is pretty useless. That USB fan is not that powerful! Get a table fan. aaa. This one is better.
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post Oct 28 2006, 01:50 AM

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QUOTE(necromanser @ Oct 28 2006, 01:43 AM)
That is pretty useless. That USB fan is not that powerful! Get a table fan. aaa. This one is better.
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hmm yea table fan lagi kuat...tapi xde tempat nak letak dah..huhu..ah well..try and find some old table fans then.. tongue.gif

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