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 OMG! RIP-OFF PLEASE READ!, AMPANG PoINT AND KLCC RIPPING PPL OFF!

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Sd-RawK-Cab25
post Aug 20 2006, 10:20 AM

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sheesh u guys arr..ok la ok la..let me make this thread 'on topic' again la..always me wanna save day wan... laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

kidding2!

anyway..about ripoffs; my take is that they just want to pay the rent la..u have a shop in klcc or midvalley ah..then u wanna sell everything murah2 how to pay rent?

but if u think logically la..if u sell things at affordable prices and get plenty of stock, more people will come and buy resulting in more income..but..then again maybe they just don't want to take the risk.

anyhoo, one of my major goals in life (yes..in LIFE) is to finally manage my financial status and finally buy a good ol' X360 set from Djinn. I've never bought anything from him but becos i love LYN so much i believe Djinn is a veli10x awesome person to buy game consoles from. he's a gamer, selling for gamers. he would understand m'sian gamers' financial status and all.

so djinn..as soon as i get enuff money to buy a set...i tell u! [ini suda banyak angkat2 abang djinn, tada kasi harga murah ka? bwahahah! j/k!]

just to share; i've been asking different shops ranging to klcc and mid valley..always give same answer:

1. is this xb360 asian set? - no, japanese.
2. u never take asian set? - no such thing, only japanese.
3. what u mean? from singapore is asian set. - we only take japanese.
4. ok la ok la. how much? - rm 1800 [or as high as rm 2000].
5. oh ok. the games how much u sell? - rm 200++
6. oh ok. u think i wan to buy from u izzit? - ya lor.
7. u stupid ah? - yes.
8. shakehead.gif bye bye. - ur welcome.

of course question 6,7,8 were fictional.
Sd-RawK-Cab25
post Aug 20 2006, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(DjiNn @ Aug 20 2006, 10:56 AM)
first thing first bro, you can't blame theme answering those question and answer. they are set to "sell" not set to "gamers opinion to sell" you see.

in thier terms.. they want to sell the item as fast as possible (of course I do that. but everytime I will come to try to explain everything if I could)

mostly all "young ones" do the Selling which have no idea what they are talking about. (Not all people.. most of it ~. so others don't felt offended ok ? laugh.gif )
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well i wasn't blaming them la..just annoyed..but yeap..you're absolutely correct (obviously la..u got experience! smile.gif ). generally, most of the sellers are just 'workers' and they may not know much about games/consoles/etc. like u said, they're told to 'sell stuff as fast as possible'. so they're like robots in a way - *must sell items. don't explain*.

that's why when some sellers are being asked technical questions from experienced gamers or the initiated, they go haywire like a robot screaming *can't compute. can't compute. error. error.*

yep can't blame them, cos they're just doing their job. but it would be cooler if they actually know or learn about what they're selling. sales people should always know what they're selling, or else how would buyers be convinced in their sales?

but the good thing about knowing this for a fact is that users/buyers should then prepare themselves with enough info from friends, online, trusted sources before embarking on console hunting to avoid getting conned.

if u get the uninitiated seller, that's fine. u get the seller with a solid gaming background and knows what he/she is selling like the back of his/her hand, that's even better! but if u get the lebih2 pandai where they simply throw 'logical' sounding technical jibber-jabber to sound valid, that's where you will kena con.

so it's good if u can equip yourself with informational ammo and blast con people with your knowledge shotgun.

which reminds me. djinn i have a question for u: is there such a thing as a 15GB or 12GB hdd sold with the xbox360 asian set?

i've never heard of it, but this seller at my place told me that when i asked him why never take asian sets.

i dunno if he's refering to the 'actual storage size' you see in your 20gb hdd (minus a few gbs for system data, etc.) or actually refering to a (probably non-existent) fully fledged, printed on the box, 15GB hdd.

he actually used this 'fact' to give me the impression that Asian sets are not worth selling compared to Japanese sets.

supply me with more ammo please. thanks! smile.gif

This post has been edited by Sd-RawK-Cab25: Aug 20 2006, 11:29 AM
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post Aug 20 2006, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(DjiNn @ Aug 20 2006, 12:07 PM)
I'm kinda think he is mentioning the available Storage HDD . a new xbox 360 will have 12 GB of space (8 gb system data and movies and etc). so total is 20gb.

no matter you purchase JP,USA.Asia machine they always comes with either 12gb/15 gb available.

unless you go delete everything inside the HDD first laugh.gif
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ah i see i see. thought so. but still that shouldn't be a reason to use that fact and give people the impression that that's the reason why they never take asian sets.

now that i think of it..that guy really made a fool out of himself. very arrogant 'wise guy' face, saying "itu Asian set hard disk dia tada manyak space..12 gig saja".

shakehead.gif

anyway thx djinn for clearing that up. smile.gif

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post Aug 20 2006, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(DjiNn @ Aug 20 2006, 12:15 PM)
laugh.gif so when you going to get your xbox 360 ?
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hahaha when the time comes bro..when the time comes (translation: when money cukup in the bank)

u shud know how i'm so looking forward to the day i finally get to do business buying the x360 from u la bro..judging by the million times i keep on asking u questions abt x360. laugh.gif laugh.gif

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post Aug 20 2006, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(Darkchaser @ Aug 20 2006, 08:05 PM)
That's not a gamer's duty, that's a consumer's right  smile.gif

Anyhoos, I don't see why everyone is an uproar. Like you mentioned, anyone who has common sense will avoid buying at KLCC. If Wizshop is selling higher than market price, it is their right as a seller. It's just like any other item in shops, all have their RCP (Recommended Consumer Price) but not everyone follows them. Some may sell lower, some may sell higher than the RCP.

Sorry for spouting all this, but I am in the retail business. Of course, as a gamer, I think Wizshop sucks for selling at such obvious high prices. But as a retail person, I can understand why, considering the KLCC market and the KLCC crowd, which is more for the high-income people. And remember, KLCC rental is for sure not cheap. Many businesses have been driven out of places like KLCC and Mid Valley because of the high rentals, despite the crowd.

If a retailer is ripping people off, consumers will go away. Then the retailer has two choices:
a) lower down prices
b) gulung tikar
If Wizshop can survive selling the X360 at 2K, then so be it. They must have one hell of a salesman who can talk the talk. A consumer has the right to choose, ALWAYS. If they choose to believe the salesman, it's their choice.

Sorry for the boring retail lecture, but I really don't get why everyone's so mad with the KLCC shops. It's obvious that shops in KLCC, 1 Utama, Mid Valley will sell stuff at high prices because of the high-end crowd and the high cost of rental. Has been like that since day one. That's why most of us buy at Imbi/TNL/Play Asia, since we are smart enough to choose the proper places to buy  smile.gif
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so true. u know that a certain shop is 'ripping you off' or too expensive for you..go to other shops. easy. smile.gif

 

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