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post Jun 24 2014, 09:24 AM, updated 11y ago

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http://www.malaysia-chronicle.com/index.ph...3#axzz35W0hYquu

http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...cars-worldwide/

http://news.malaysia.msn.com/top-stories/h...airbag-defect-1

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/06/23/...N0EY0YM20140623
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/24/business...-bags.html?_r=0
http://online.wsj.com/articles/nissan-hond...cles-1403521353
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/06/23/...N0EY0HG20140623
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/06/23/...N0EX0K820140623
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2...ecall/11260287/

TOKYO/DETROIT - Honda Motor Co and other Japanese automakers on Monday recalled almost 3 million cars with potentially explosive air bags supplied by Takata Corp, bringing the total recall so far to about 10.5 million vehicles over the past five years.
The series of recalls cover both passenger-side and driver-side air bags, which the world's second-biggest automotive safety parts maker manufactured in 2000-02. The total ranks it among the five biggest recalls in the industry's history.
And the tally is expanding further as Honda and six other automakers also said on Monday they were recalling more vehicles in some high humidity regions in the United States, in what they called a "field action", at the request of the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) to replace Takata air bag inflators.
In the wider action, Honda said it was recalling about 2.03 million vehicles globally over potentially flawed Takata air bag inflators made in 2000-02 with a risk of exploding and shooting out shrapnel at drivers and passengers, expanding a recall from April 2013. It cited how explosive material used to inflate Takata passenger-side air bags had been handled and processed in 2000-02 at plants in the United States and Mexico.
Nissan Motor Co said it would recall 755,000 vehicles worldwide, while Mazda Motor Corp said it would call back 159,807 vehicles, both also expanding April 2013 recalls.
Takata Chief Executive Officer Shigehisa Takada and Chief Operating Officer Stefan Stocker said the company was working with safety regulators and car makers. "We will aim to further strengthen our quality control system and work united as a company to prevent problems from happening again," they said in a statement.
A Takata spokeswoman said it was unclear what the financial impact of the recalls would be, but last year's recalls cost the supplier $300 million. The 2013 recalls were intended to close the book on a problem that emerged as early as 2007 and has been linked to two deaths.
Separately, Honda, Toyota, Nissan, Mazda, Ford, Chrysler and BMW said they are conducting regional recalls in the United States to replace Takata air bag inflators in certain vehicles in high humidity regions of Puerto Rico, Florida, Hawaii and the Virgin Islands. Most of the companies said NHTSA had determined the regions affected, when asked why other humid areas were not covered.
However, Honda is also recalling affected vehicles in Alabama, Georgia, Louisiana, Mississippi, South Carolina and Texas.

Most of the automakers have not determined the number of vehicles affected, but NHTSA previously estimated in documents that did not list Ford and BMW that more than 1 million vehicles could be covered by the issue.
"Based on the limited data available at this time, NHTSA supports efforts by automakers to address the immediate risk in areas that have consistently hot, humid conditions over extended periods of time," NHTSA said in a statement.
The safety agency, which said the recalls were influenced by a probe into six reports of air bag ruptures in Florida and Puerto Rico, added it is gathering additional information and will take action based on its findings.
TURNING OFF AIR BAGS
The recalls come as General Motors is under scrutiny over why it took more than a decade to discover a faulty ignition switch linked to at least 13 deaths.
Monday's global recalls by Honda, Mazda and Nissan follow Toyota's recall last week. Prior to Monday, the four Japanese car makers and BMW had recalled 7.6 million vehicles equipped with potentially defective air bags.
Short of Takata replacement parts, the automakers said they would turn off air bags in Japan as customers bring recalled vehicles into dealerships - judging that an inoperable passenger side air bag is safer than a potentially defective one.

In the United States, NHTSA opened a probe earlier this month on whether Takata inflators made after 2002 are prone to fail, and whether driving in high humidity contributes to the risk of air bag explosions.
In a June 11 letter to the NHTSA, Takata said it would support "regional campaigns" to replace certain driver-side air bag inflators made between January 2004 and June 2007, as well as certain passenger-side inflators made between June 2000 and July 2004. But Takata did not admit that there is any "safety defect" in the air bags. -http://www.reuters.com


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post Jun 24 2014, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Jun 24 2014, 09:24 AM)
....driving in high humidity contributes to the risk of air bag explosions.
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If true, all Malaysian units gg.com. Are the local units using the same airbags?
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post Jun 24 2014, 10:30 AM

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thank god i'm still keeping my airbag-less proton...
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post Jun 24 2014, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 24 2014, 10:18 AM)
If true, all Malaysian units gg.com. Are the local units using the same airbags?
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i'd think so, because Takata factory/plant/warehouse is here

http://www.takata.com/en/about/locations02.html

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post Jun 24 2014, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(Omnipotent @ Jun 24 2014, 10:30 AM)
thank god i'm still keeping my airbag-less proton...
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Proton uses airbags from Autoliv-Hiratako

Not sure about Inspalia tho

QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Jun 24 2014, 10:57 AM)
i'd think so, because Takata factory/plant/warehouse is here

http://www.takata.com/en/about/locations02.html

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Ooohhh boy.

BRB gonna go set my Ford's driver seat further back from the steering wheel icon_question.gif

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post Jun 24 2014, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 24 2014, 11:15 AM)
Proton uses airbags from Autoliv-Hiratako

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you mean this Autoliv?

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/06/02/...N0OJ1OI20140602

Autoliv to pay $65 mln in US antitrust probe
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post Jun 24 2014, 11:30 AM

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you mean this Autoliv?

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/06/02/...N0OJ1OI20140602

Autoliv to pay $65 mln in US antitrust probe
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Hiratako Holdings is the major shareholder of Autoliv Hiratako in M'sia. The rest is owned by Autoliv.

Well, at least their airbags won't kill you like Takata's ph34r.gif
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post Jun 24 2014, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 24 2014, 11:30 AM)
Hiratako Holdings is the major shareholder of Autoliv Hiratako in M'sia. The rest is owned by Autoliv.

Well, at least their airbags won't kill you like Takata's ph34r.gif
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i hope not but Autoliv is keeping mum about their proprietary airbag inflator design ....

http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...te-mass-recall/

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Takata uses ammonium nitrate in its inflators, Honda has said. That explosive compound is volatile and highly sensitive to moisture. Other airbag makers, including Takata's larger Swedish rival, Autoliv Inc, have kept their inflator designs a proprietary secret.
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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 24 2014, 11:15 AM)
Proton uses airbags from Autoliv-Hiratako

Not sure about Inspalia tho
Ooohhh boy.

BRB gonna go set my Ford's driver seat further back from the steering wheel  icon_question.gif
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ooohhh boy.

lucky i have my seat quite far back (and that's one of the reason i got a shift stick extender sweat.gif) due to my long legs lol
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post Jun 24 2014, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Jun 24 2014, 11:37 AM)
i hope not but Autoliv is keeping mum about their proprietary airbag inflator design ....

http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...te-mass-recall/

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Takata uses ammonium nitrate in its inflators, Honda has said. That explosive compound is volatile and highly sensitive to moisture. Other airbag makers, including Takata's larger Swedish rival, Autoliv Inc, have kept their inflator designs a proprietary secret.
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hmm.gif hmm.gif no idea....we'll know when someone gets killed sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jun 24 2014, 11:38 AM)
ooohhh boy.

lucky i have my seat quite far back (and that's one of the reason i got a shift stick extender sweat.gif) due to my long legs lol
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Maybe Proton replace your Insapla airbags with plastic bag or balloon....deswai such massive discount
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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 24 2014, 11:41 AM)
Maybe Proton replace your Insapla airbags with plastic bag or balloon....deswai such massive discount
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for sure la... who needs airbags right?

speaking of inflating air bags, lucky i didn't bang someone who decided to take a sudden/illegal u-turn that have cars u-turning from the OPPOSITE DIRECTION AS WELL.

braked so fast/hard i forgot to clutch and stalled car laugh.gif
bystanders (very busy road at brickfields/just beside plaza sentral) staring from all direction

i wonder if they thinking "lol sohai u-turner" or "lol noob manual driver" sweat.gif

and what does it have to relate to this thread?
plastic bag/balloon haven't kill me yet flex.gif rclxm9.gif
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post Jun 24 2014, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jun 24 2014, 11:38 AM)
ooohhh boy.

lucky i have my seat quite far back (and that's one of the reason i got a shift stick extender sweat.gif) due to my long legs lol
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i think sitting far back is not enough, we should get a ironman mask and suit, reading this

TOKYO/DETROIT: A year ago, Japan's Takata Corp, the world's second-largest maker of auto safety parts, believed it had finally contained a crisis more than a decade in the making.

It was wrong.

Japanese car-makers including Honda Motor Co and Nissan Motor Co on Monday recalled 2.9 million vehicles globally over Takata airbags that are at risk of exploding and shooting shrapnel at passengers and drivers.

That takes the tally of Takata air bag recalls over the past five years to some 10.5 million vehicles.

Those vehicles carry air bags made between 2000-02 when, Takata says, it botched production of air bag inflators and lost related records.

And that total is likely to increase further after Takata said it is willing to replace more air bag inflators made between 2000-07 that it supplied to Honda, Toyota, Nissan, Mazda, BMW, Chrysler and Ford for vehicles sold in the US.

The deepening crisis comes at a time when General Motors is under scrutiny over why it took more than a decade to discover a faulty ignition switch linked to at least 13 deaths. As automakers promote over-the-horizon breakthroughs like self-driving cars, the industry's mass safety-related recalls underline how much can still go wrong with some of the cheapest, most established technologies.

Takata has asked multiple car-makers to cooperate on investigations, and those companies could yet make follow-up announcements, said a person knowledgeable about the matter.

In April and May 2013, Takata's customers, led by Honda and Toyota, recalled more than 4 million vehicles due to the risk that defective airbag inflators could blow apart and shoot metal shards. Those 2013 recalls, which ranked as the largest ever for an air bag defect, contributed to a US$300mil charge for Takata.

Takata and Honda told US safety regulators that the core of the problem was how the explosive material used to inflate Takata airbags had been handled and processed between 2000-02 at plants in the US and Mexico.

The 2013 recalls involving Honda and four other car makers were intended to close the books on a problem that had emerged as early as 2007 and had already been linked to two deaths.

CASE NOT CLOSED

But just weeks after the 2013 recalls, on May 14, a 10-year-old Honda Fit involved in an accident in western Japan raised doubts.

The Fit's passenger-side airbag exploded, according to Honda and Japan's transport ministry. There were no injuries in the accident, in Okayama, so police did not give details, but safety investigators found the metal ejected by the air bag was so hot it set fire to the instrument panel and glove compartment.

Honda was immediately concerned.

The Fit had not been part of earlier recalls and it raised a doubt about whether more defective parts could be in circulation than previously identified. Honda engineers spent six months but failed to recreate the explosion, the company said.

In November, Honda told Japan's safety regulators it was still investigating a new air bag explosion case but did not see the need for another recall. A month later, it said in a statement to Reuters: "We have confirmed that (Takata) has conducted cause analysis and implemented counter-measures, and that in the production process it is taking preventive measures."

Then, this month, Toyota recalled another 650,000 cars in Japan for defective Takata airbags and called back 1.6 million vehicles previously recalled overseas, an unusual step.

A complication, Toyota said, was that Takata's records had proven to be incomplete. Takata spokesman Toyohiro Hishikawa confirmed that the company had discovered a problem with records kept at its plant in Monclova, Mexico.

Short of replacement parts from Takata, Toyota has decided to turn off air bags in Japan as customers come to dealerships with recalled vehicles, judging an inoperable passenger-side airbag to be safer than a potentially defective one.

On Monday, Honda expanded its recalls and said it is calling back 2.03 million vehicles globally, including the 2003 Fit, over the passenger air bag inflator flaw. Nissan said it is recalling 755,000 vehicles worldwide, and Mazda 159,807 vehicles globally. A BMW spokesman based in Japan said the company is checking whether it needs to take action. Honda, Nissan and Mazda said they will also turn off passenger air bags in Japan.

Takata said it is unclear what the financial impact of the recalls would be, and that it is working with safety regulators and car makers.

"We will aim to further strengthen our quality control system and work united as a company to prevent problems from happening again," CEO Shigehisa Takada and Chief Operating Officer Stefan Stocker said in a statement on Monday.

HUMIDITY COULD BE A FACTOR

Yet more vehicles could be recalled if an ongoing US safety investigation finds evidence of wider problems.

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) is examining whether Takata inflators made after 2002 are prone to fail and whether driving in high humidity contributes to the risk for air bag explosions.

That would go beyond the manufacturing glitches that Takata and Honda previously identified.

Takata told the NHTSA in a letter, dated June 11 and posted recently on the NHTSA's website, that it will support replacements of certain driver-side air bag inflators made between Jan 1, 2004 and June 30, 2007, as well as certain passenger side inflators made between June 2000 and July 2004.

The company said it would support "regional campaigns" for these inflators, but it was not immediately clear what that meant.

But Takata did not admit that there were safety defects to these inflators, saying currently available information does not indicate that. "(N)either Takata nor the vehicle manufacturers conducting these field actions would be expected to admit that its product contain such a defect," the company said in the letter.

A Takata spokeswoman could not immediately comment on Monday on how many more vehicles could additionally become target of recalls.

Takada is the son of Juichiro Takada, who took his Tokyo-based family run business from seatbelts into the production of air bags from the late 1980s.

Like other suppliers, Takata relies on auto manufacturers to make the final determination on the scope and timing of recalls and has typically left disclosure of defects to them.

EIGHT NEW CASES

Since the recalls in April and May last year, there have been at least six cases of Takata inflators exploding in the US and two in Japan.

In August, an inflator ruptured in a 2005 Honda Civic in the US, sending a "one-inch piece of shrapnel into the driver's right eye", according to a complaint filed with the NHTSA. In January, a 2002 Toyota Corolla in Shizuoka, Japan had its airbag explode, sending hot shrapnel into the car. The passenger seat was burned, Toyota has said.

The NHTSA said this month it was examining whether moisture from humidity could be seeping inside inflators designed to be airtight. That could make the volatile propellant inside the inflators unstable, experts have said.

The agency is also looking at Takata inflators supplied after 2002. Its probe includes an examination of airbag explosions in a 2005 Mazda 6, a 2006 Dodge Charger and a 2004 Nissan Sentra.

Chrysler, maker of the Dodge Charger, had not previously been involved in the Takata recall. The Sentra had previously only been recalled for the 2002 and 2003 model years.

BURNING TOO FAST

Airbags, including those made by Takata, have saved thousands of lives since their widespread adoption in the 1990s, automakers, regulators and safety advocates agree.

But in order to work, airbags need to inflate in less than half the time it takes to blink an eye, just 40 milliseconds on the passenger side, according to Takata. That requires the use of powerful and potentially dangerous explosives in inflators which require careful handling and precise calibration.

In March 2006, Takata's air bag plant in Monclova was rocked by a series of explosions that sent a fireball into the air.

Takata uses ammonium nitrate in its inflators, Honda has said. That explosive compound is volatile and highly sensitive to moisture. Other airbag makers, including Takata's larger Swedish rival, Autoliv Inc, have kept their inflator designs a proprietary secret.

Takata identified several manufacturing problems with its inflators, including some at a plant in Moses Lake, Washington, and at Monclova, where the ammonium nitrate was exposed to too much moisture inside the air-conditioned plant.

The manufacturing glitches meant the inflator propellant could burn too fast and blow apart the metal casing surrounding it, sending out hot gas and shrapnel.


The recalls have been most costly for Honda.

In May 2009, 18-year-old Ashley Parham was driving a 2001 Honda Accord when she bumped into a car in her high school parking lot outside Oklahoma City. The Accord's airbag exploded and metal shrapnel sliced Parham's carotid artery. She bled to death, one of two deaths linked to Takata air bags.

Honda and Takata settled with Parham's family out of court and details were not disclosed.

Sean Kane, president of Safety Research and Strategies and a researcher and consultant for plaintiffs' lawyers, said it was clear past Takata recalls, which began in 2008, had fallen short. "What's very troubling is that they haven't resolved this thing once and for all," he said.

In Japan, drivers who began to respond to recall notices this week were sent home from Toyota dealerships with a yellow warning label on the window visor.

"Warning: Passenger Air Bag Inoperative," the warning reads. "We recommend you sit in the back seat. If you must sit in the front seat, push it all the way back and use a seatbelt."

Tomoki Nakagawa, 52, said he was stunned to find his mechanic had turned off the passenger airbag on his silver Noah minivan. He was told to avoid carrying passengers, advice that puzzled and frustrated him.

"I bought a minivan because I need to carry many people. If there is an accident and the injury gets more serious because there was no airbag, how is Toyota going to respond?" he said.

Toyota took the step of disabling passenger-side air bags after consulting with Japan's transport ministry, which approved the action. The automaker has told regulators it expects to have replacement parts available around September.

"We temporarily suspended the airbag function on vehicles in Japan until the parts are available because (the ministry) requires a remedy at the time of recall filing," Toyota spokesman Brian Lyons said. "We considered the lead time of remedy parts preparation, and we prioritised the customer's safety."
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omg shooting shrapnels and fireballs... airbags are supposed to protect me not the other way around shocking.gif
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If memory serves me right, Autoliv Hiratako supplies SRS to local assemblers, that includes locally assembled Hondas and Toyotas (plus a few more conti brands I can't recall). Maybe these car owners need not worry about exploding Takata bags.

On another note, I wonder how the temporary measure of disabling the airbags work? Since it is the explosives that are identified as the source of the problem, not the electronic trigger. Does "disabling" means removing the inflator?

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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 24 2014, 12:03 PM)
On another note, I wonder how the temporary measure of disabling the airbags work? Since it is the explosives that are identified as the source of the problem, not the electronic trigger. Does "disabling" means removing the inflator?
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i believe it means turning the airbag off which means upon collision it would not trigger at all.
(AFAIK under mitsubishi ETACS you can disable it)

though, that wouldn't prevent any premature airbag explosions under hot/humid conditions as the thread original concerns/mentioned
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jun 24 2014, 12:26 PM)
i believe it means turning the airbag off which means upon collision it would not trigger at all.
(AFAIK under mitsubishi ETACS you can disable it)

though, that wouldn't prevent any premature airbag explosions under hot/humid conditions as the thread original concerns/mentioned
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I know the trigger can be electronically disabled. What I was curious is mentioned in your second paragraph, how do you disable a volatile explosive?

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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 24 2014, 12:31 PM)
I know the trigger can be electronically disabled. What I was curious is mentioned in your second paragraph, how do you disable a volatile explosive?
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Don't think you could, wild guess is that they just removed the air bag entirely (not hard also lol)
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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 24 2014, 12:03 PM)
If memory serves me right, Autoliv Hiratako supplies SRS to local assemblers, that includes locally assembled Hondas and Toyotas (plus a few more conti brands I can't recall). Maybe these car owners need not worry about exploding Takata bags.

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honda Malaysia is recalling
http://www.livelifedrive.com/malaysia/news...-faulty-airbags
Honda Malaysia is issuing a recall for four of its models sold in the Malaysian market as a precautionary measure over airbag defects which could lead to a fire. The affected models are the 2003 City and Accord, the 2001-2003 Stream, and the 2002-2003 Jazz.
The number of vehicles affected is undisclosed but the Japanese carmaker says only the passenger side airbags in these models are faulty.

the distributors of Nissan and Mazda, Tan Chong Motors and Bermaz Motors have confirmed to NTV7 that their cars sold here are not affected by the recall.
Owners of the affected Honda models can call Honda Malaysia’s customer service hotline at 1 800 88 2020 for any queries.



Recall has happened in the past in Malaysia, e.g.

http://paultan.org/2011/02/17/honda-malays...-jazz-vehicles/

http://www.toyota.com.my/corporate-info/pr...ign-update.html

http://paultan.org/2013/03/27/mazda6-recal...rs-in-malaysia/
http://paultan.org/2014/04/08/mazda-recall...hicles-i-eloop/

http://paultan.org/2013/04/16/nissan-annou...ed-in-malaysia/

So wait n see to be sure

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The affected models are the 2003 City and Accord, the 2001-2003 Stream, and the 2002-2003 Jazz.
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