i think so, and he won the 1v1 at bts too iinm.

level different too high~ pro mindset is different u know

has valid point but i need 2 reread his statement few times , since he write it in form of riddle/poem i not sure which1 it is...

Arrow will most likely 0-15, LGD is the only possible the chances for them to get a win...
Titan 
Dk thou need 2 see today game, today they must every game to stabilize their standing in the group
suprisingly c9 and liquid and NARvi is on top the group   

arrow really need a good coach. they got the skill and totally no strategy. always got outpicked by opponent. they need a better drafter...

pretty such u can find all that info at the official TI4 page
http://www.dota2.com/international/watch/July8/

and spoiler free

Johnny is the "asslicker" of China DOTO team. I heard of the China Dota 2 client by Perfect World. He was one of the unknown player who "shined" for no reason.

open bet table please.

i got 2 heroic from ti.

hope will get more.

rezeki bulan ramadhan. kau tak pose. sbb tu tak dpt

i think more like they are underestimating panah too much...
didn't see them as serious threat since their score so bad so they pay the price....

it'll be risky to give any team an extra point in this stage...the tourney is too big to give even a point....

however if u all got watch ice3 interview with hotbid, icecube mention that SEA actually have alot talented player however it is hard for them to rise or make a living as progamer as he mention the salary and sponsor in SEA is very less/bad thats why he n mushi/chuan fled to china( thats what i understand from the interview thou)

Come and change bioclock to US timezone.
Just woke up and feel gr8

why so much hate in this thread? lol. So what if you have degree and fulltime or whatsover?

All of us just play dota for fun. If you always speak like your a boss here you speak it when you are top of the mmr ladder.

All the players who go pro have sacrificed their time and golden opportunity to kickstart a stable career. They are all going for the large prize money and those that fail are leaving the scenes for sure unless some Datuks decide to venture in competitive scene.

Arrow's team is still young and they have been doing good so far especially scoring 2 pts with 2 games to go given their experience in the international scene. Out of all the teams, Arrow has only played with Titan and it is pretty expected that they would lose others on draft / experience (such as Lance throwing with PA on early game, neglecting all farms). They are still 18-19 and if they continue to improve by participating more tournaments next year provided they receive stable resources, they can aim for the money for nxt few years and retire to focus on their individual path.

Urn real Moneyh
hahaha

brb need to cry over his pm

but with your face, i can feel assured edi.

no one expected koreans, and talked so much shit about them not making it big anytime soon but stole made it to play-in and now in ti4. even showed amazing doto and now respected even tho lost.

people been bashing so many teams on a global scale on reddit and other mainstream sites, but cannot handle a local forum? no wonder didnt qualify.

a team who started 8 month only in doto, managed to get 2nd against other names in SEA.
Now im an even bigger mvp fan.
gdlk orange, at this rate, they need it to even qualify for ti5
when their victory is dependent on another few teams failures, you know shit has hit the fan.
sad day for [A] indeed

Thats why i saw in reddit
those top 5 lower team
depend on EE sama lol

Cloud 9 must win all their leftover game to give a chance to those Top 5 lower team

Hmm

Got Injoker as my daily hero challenge...now how the hell I play him? So many builds...and I lack of experience with that hero which to go for
I doubt pub will let me solo safe lane (?)

Thanks for the tip...btw phase boots? Or BoT/Arcane? 

Or just normal boots