Judging from the video and the bunch of pile laying around, it showed that Panorama has yet to begin the pilling works.

Kimzee we are you a agent or buyer?

Lrt not mrt.

I also think tis project location is better than the two u mentioned.

But within walking distance tak ada non halal food and the developer is in question.

What piling method they are using?

interested to learn more about this project, i wonder is there any unit left.
Can an agent please PM me. looking to get the 2Br2b type.

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facts : a long time ago there was a mamak on this site?  remember having a tt with some aviation enthuasiast from malaysianwings way back. what was the name again *trying to recall.

Pros
1. view : golf course view would be nice, but i hope it's not 1k psf   
2. name : have always fancied the "Panorama" branding name. i guess it's only me 
3. near sport ammeties : location wise, i'd love it since it's a walking distance to the KJ olympic size public pool 
4. near lincon uni, prospect students' + lecturers   
5. near mas academy
6. walking distance to CGC - Glenmarie, LRT Stop ID: KJ27 - to me this is a win + factor .
(provided they put a proper pedestrian + walking path + cross that bz road)

Cons
1. near a busy road , but these day everywhere is congested
2. office nearby/next door. sure high traffic during office in/out
3. PJ Counsil Stadium : during event's sure will be packed. /extra congested

let's see, what else 

i know taiko....

am just pick bones nia....a bit of a prick...try not to commit therefore find faults. there is no perfect property.

BTW long time i havent been to KBC. is there non halal food there now?

actually I am more concern about Loh&loh.

What's the selling price?

thanks for your feedback. already got in touch with an agent. i just dont have the time to drop by there within this week. let's see.hmm. prices are a bit steep 

That is the biggest bullshit I've heard so far for someone trying to compliment their own buy
https://www.propertyguru.com.my/property-fo...elana-jaya-9485
Panorama is by far being one of the most marketed properties by agent.
A lot of the property agents I know have this project in their repertoire.

sound doesn't take the walking route

This project is low/mid end serviced apartment, nothing to hoo haa about.

Personally I believe a lot of blacks/foreign worker would stay there looking at the price range. Cheaper rent & close to LRT... their favourite

Panorama was never advertised as luxury living to begin with. The cost is cheap and the maintenance is very cheap considering the amount of facilities and size of the common area shows that they know that they aren't even going for quality but quantity to attract buyers (Estimated only RM0.35/0.38 incl sinking fund for size of common area and facility given, they knew they are using cheap equipment.. probably Johnson brand treadmill etc.).

With that aside, here are the facts that would tells you that they aren't targeting towards high-end/premium/luxury. In fact, the materials that they used seems to show that they are just cutting cost here and there to get the cheapest out of construction.

Wall - Reinforced concrete/brickwall (where applicable) : High end SA normally uses Masonry especially for partition instead of brickwall for better sound absorbance and of course it is more solid. Brickwall is normally the cheaper option used for low end flat till mid end SA or even 'affordable luxury' condo. Definitely not those high end or luxury condo.

Roof covering - Reinforced concrete flat roof / metal deck (where applicable) : Metal deck roof..  sweat.gif

Ceiling - Skim Coat / Plaster Ceiling / Board & paint : Board and paint, seriously? Why wanna cut cost with certain area using board & paint.

Doors - Decorative Fire rate door : Pretty standard for low/mid end condo. High end normally uses Timber or better.

Wall finish - Kitchen uses Ceramic tiles while bathrooms uses porcelain tiles. High end ones would never use ceramic tiles, too cheap. Again, felt like they are trying to save back on some area instead of using porcelain tile for all the wall finishing.

Floor finish - porcelain tiles/Ceramic tiles (where applicable). You know it is low end when the bedroom uses porcelain tiles. High end ones normally uses laminated timber whereas luxury premium ones would use engineered timber. Super luxury one would use hardwood for their bedroom floor. Also... ceramic again  sweat.gif

SMATV point only give 1 even for 1k sqft units. No TV for you in the bedroom I guess  sweat.gif

Seriously, the entire finishing seems pretty low end and average at best. I would hate to see the equipment quality they are giving for the facilities. Not saying it is not livable or anything, just don't expect Panorama to be anything above mid level la..

Location wise, it is far from good. Practically speaking, what is the point of having golf courses near your apartment? View? apart from that, there are no real amenities within walking distance (no shopping mall, no grocery store and also no good choice of food stall). The area is very dense and not well kept hence appeal wise, the surrounding area isn't good as well. Within less than 500 meters is the busiest road in Klang Valley, that is seriously too close for comfort.

My point was the project is low-mid end did you read my post wrongly? Where did I mention it is on a high end range, in fact I am trying to argue that it is not.

Foreign ppl it is subjective and that is what I presume cause it is a short distance to LRT and that area seems to cater for a lot of bangla etc. with lots of shops around and low end commercial around that area. I also foresee many blacks or those foreign student would rent that place seeing that it is near the LRT and the project is affordable.

Case in point - See casa tiara, a similar level (price wise at least)... it is fill with foreigners from bangla to blacks to Cambodians (those security guards) because of LRT convenience and easy travel to shops and low end commercial area (where they work).

Why would I want to compare highway? I see what I see and the kelana road is one of the most jam pack roads around klang valley. Ara damansara people literally get stuck trying to get to federal highway because of the massive jam there.

Case in point - See casa tiara, a similar level (price wise at least)... it is fill with foreigners from bangla to blacks to Cambodians (those security guards) because of LRT convenience and easy travel to shops and low end commercial area (where they work).

watlioa leh….you got the patience to debate with all the body parts language throwing at you.

the reason why developer will setup a separate company is because after the project is completely finished, they can proceed to close the company for good bcos essentially project development is a ONE OFF exercise.

Not good for investment?

So, you planning to get one now? 

Seriously though, it is a no brainer, if you have bumi discount then go for Panorama if not then Lot 15

If I have bumi discount I would choose Panomara over Lot 15 anytime anyday, 10% bumi discount man!

For the current price you are paying, you can get 1k+sqf units with 60-80k left in your pocket! Even if Panomara is crap, with 60-80k, you can furnish it till it nice nice.

It's like a Honda Accord vs a Honda City with a BMW engine, hack with that extra money, you can literally get yourself a real honda city + a 1k sqf unit.

For non-bumi of course go for Lot 15 la, it's an overall much better project but since no 10% bumi discount might as well pay a bit more to get a premium stay.