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LegendLee
post Jun 16 2014, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(edpaul @ Jun 16 2014, 09:00 PM)
I lazy to argue but here come the strong points...
i)In lens optic stabilizer gives you 'false perception' that you think you are not shaking but in fact you Are shaking. I rather have no IS, so in the ovf, I would know if I'm controlling my shake to the minimum.
ii) lens with optical stabilizer is know to have less IQ... Or maybe it's false...
iii) if your IS is working at minimum, say 1stop of compensation, u get min is lost... If u shake more and require compensate up to 3 stop, more IQ lost. What's the point?

iv) if I were to use flash for macro? With or without IS will make zero difference then.

The arguement come back to LPPL.
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1. This is a strong point. Not a weak point.
What false perception ? I don't give a damn if I'm shaking as long as my framing is stable and my picture has no motion blur.


2. 70-200 f/2.8 IS II is by far the sharpest 70-200.
Canon 100mm IS Macro L is as good if not better than the Canon 100mm macro.
Canon 35 f/2 IS >= Canon 35 f/2
Canon 24 f/2.8 IS >= Canon 24 f/2.8


3. What ? I don't understand what you're talking about ?
Mind explaining this again in English ?

BTW, Current IS technology isn't that crappy anymore. It can detect when it's on a tripod and not cause some motion compensation feedback loop.
Even the effects when switching it on is negligible.


4. It'll still be useful during framing or focus stacking.


The only con of getting an IS lens is the price.

This post has been edited by LegendLee: Jun 16 2014, 10:11 PM
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post Jun 17 2014, 06:26 PM

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QUOTE(lwliam @ Jun 17 2014, 06:00 PM)
Its not because IS is helping it to be sharp. Its the optics that are sharp. There's a difference.
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It's not because IS is deteriorating the optics.
You can have good optics with IS.

Just because a lens have IS, doesn't mean it has shitty optics.

There's a difference.

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post Jun 20 2014, 02:46 AM

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QUOTE(lwliam @ Jun 19 2014, 02:58 PM)
I did not mention that having IS comes with shitty optics, never did I implied that as well. In case you didn't get me the 1st time, I meant that in any case an IS lens has its IS turned off, in stable conditions, it's still sharp. So having IS not not does not make any difference in that case, unless you have mild Parkinson's.

There's a difference (to what you have interpreted)
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First
I was debunking EdPaul's post.
"ii) lens with optical stabilizer is know to have less IQ"

Second
Of course I know IS alone doesn't improve image quality in optical conditions nor did I imply that.
Lens with IS can be sharper than Lens with no IS does not mean IS affect sharpness.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation_d...imply_causation


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If you actually read my post you quoted, I basically mention that switching IS on/off will not affect IQ in any substantial way possible.
Which AFAIK, doesn't contradict nor is it really different than your statement.

uhhh... why are we arguing on things we agree on.
Let's just forget about this..

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