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post Jun 17 2014, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(ojan @ Jun 17 2014, 12:26 PM)
ermmm NFE=VVT(variable valve timing) , different than IAFM..
about the fc..dunno. i don't quick to judge, see result first then flame
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so what's the difference between this NFE and CPS? both are valve timing too. jengjengjeng.
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post Jun 17 2014, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(toa cheng @ Jun 16 2014, 12:48 PM)
kereta tin milo, kthxbye
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wonder what u call perodua car then hmm.gif
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QUOTE(cloudstrife07 @ Jun 17 2014, 12:30 PM)
so what's the difference between this NFE and CPS? both are valve timing too. jengjengjeng.
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dunno mang..but i know there are several ways to implement vvt
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post Jun 17 2014, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(ashcrimson @ Jun 17 2014, 12:31 PM)
wonder what u call perodua car then hmm.gif
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post Jun 17 2014, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(Toyoi @ Jun 17 2014, 12:05 PM)
nfe = not fuel efficient...

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aik aku summon ruffstuf, si toyoi pulak yg keluar jawab,hahaha, sabar la toyoi giliran utk anda lepas ni ,sila berbaris, dan ambil nombor.

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QUOTE(newmaster @ Jun 17 2014, 01:40 PM)
aik aku summon ruffstuf, si toyoi pulak yg keluar  jawab,hahaha, sabar la toyoi giliran utk anda lepas ni ,sila berbaris, dan ambil nombor.
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sampai skarang takde org konfem apa kreta dia pakai?
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post Jun 17 2014, 12:47 PM

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nfe i think is new fuel efficiency with 12% on fuel consumption improvement. don't knowlah how accurate lor. some1 told me this.
n even base line oso got abs ,ebd ,esc and ba (brake assistant?) .

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QUOTE(ojan @ Jun 17 2014, 12:38 PM)
dunno mang..but i know there are several ways to implement vvt
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using the same engine but with 2 similar tech which application is far different from each other and used them on cars that doesn't need it (Exora CPS, Waja CPS). I dont know what proton is thinking. bayar gaji buta ? kroni ? syukur DRB-Hicom ambik kalau bawah khazanah nasional entah berapa billion nak songlap lagi.

CPS = high revving tech, almost similar like VTEC in concept except it has 2 openings instead of 1 in traditional VTEC.
NFE = supposedly VVT like perodua's DVVT, toyota VVTI

now CPS was introduced during Tengku Mahaleel's time. and then Syed Zainal cleaned up his sh!t and produced Proton Persona (based on i dont know what he think when doing Gen.2), this GCC, solved power window problem and continue research on NFE.
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QUOTE(ashcrimson @ Jun 17 2014, 12:31 PM)
wonder what u call perodua car then hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Toyoi @ Jun 17 2014, 01:44 PM)
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kalau kereta ni boleh sama atau surpass hyundai i10 in terms of safety bagus la.

tapi orang tetap nak beli tin milo viva. camne toyoi ?
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QUOTE(Toyoi @ Jun 17 2014, 01:44 PM)

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Sigh, why other countries can get latest model of Hyundai, Kia, Toyota, Honda and other brands
Our country is so slow. doh.gif
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post Jun 17 2014, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(Toyoi @ Jun 17 2014, 01:44 PM)
Another benchmark for Potong GSC..?? hmm.gif  hmm.gif

Euro NCAP crash tests : Hyundai i10 scores four stars....
by Matt Campbell, Car Advice, May 15, 2014
this one same gang as picanto ar?
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post Jun 17 2014, 01:59 PM

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In my opinion, this car not bad for the high end spec. Comfortable enough for me. Still dont know the price
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QUOTE(Toyoi @ Jun 17 2014, 02:10 PM)
Marketing trick...? Perodua "Lagi jimat lagi best" vs. Potong "Lagi safety lagi best"...
Yes clone abang adik...
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"Lagi cepat mati lagi best" vs. "Lagi sengsara hidup lagi best" laugh.gif
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QUOTE(cloudstrife07 @ Jun 17 2014, 01:52 PM)
kalau kereta ni boleh sama atau surpass hyundai i10 in terms of safety bagus la.

tapi orang tetap nak beli tin milo viva. camne toyoi ?
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his priority is fuel efficient.. not safety..

its a matter of preference.. whistling.gif whistling.gif whistling.gif
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post Jun 17 2014, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(NUR_VER.3 @ Jun 16 2014, 08:23 PM)
Power window dgn tin milo punya argument tu agaklah lapuk isunye dan org yg tak mengikuti perkembangan terkini je yg selalu komplen benda yg dah lapuk dan basi ni.

Kereta neo aku dah lebih5 thn takde lak masalah power window, keta kena langgar dr belakang keta belakang engin terus berasap, kete neo aku tukar bumper je.

Kebanyakkan org komplem proton power window rosak and tin milo ni semunyanya beli kete proton lame zaman tok kaduk seperti wira, saga, iswara, iswara cyborg, perdana, etc. Model2 yg lebih 10 thn punya keluaran.

Kalau hang dah beli keta second hand, model zaman jahiliah, hang expect 5star punya quality, boleh pigi mampuih la.
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QUOTE(ojan @ Jun 17 2014, 11:29 AM)
a friend and my sister's viva got power window problem, door handle tercabut.. same exact problem.. both are high variant viva..
naik 4org lalu speed bump tak lepas, spring made of tissue izzit? zzzz

not saying proton good quality also..
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inb4 my satria year 95' original power window still working strong.... whistling.gif










QUOTE(cloudstrife07 @ Jun 17 2014, 12:30 PM)
so what's the difference between this NFE and CPS? both are valve timing too. jengjengjeng.
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cps = mivec/ vtec style valve lift and timing change...

nfe = dvvt/ vvt/ vanos/ avcs camshaft timing change...

cfe = torobo


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QUOTE(xpole @ Jun 17 2014, 01:54 PM)
Sigh, why other countries can get latest model of Hyundai, Kia, Toyota, Honda and other brands
Our country is so slow. doh.gif
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taiwan is slower than us laugh.gif

last week = honda crv

last month they baru introduce new honda civic

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QUOTE(cloudstrife07 @ Jun 17 2014, 12:50 PM)
using the same engine but with 2 similar tech which application is far different from each other and used them on cars that doesn't need it (Exora CPS, Waja CPS). I dont know what proton is thinking. bayar gaji buta ? kroni ? syukur DRB-Hicom ambik kalau bawah khazanah nasional entah berapa billion nak songlap lagi.

CPS = high revving tech, almost similar like VTEC in concept except it has 2 openings instead of 1 in traditional VTEC.
NFE = supposedly VVT like perodua's DVVT, toyota VVTI

now CPS was introduced during Tengku Mahaleel's time. and then Syed Zainal cleaned up his sh!t and produced Proton Persona (based on i dont know what he think when doing Gen.2), this GCC, solved power window problem and continue research on NFE.
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imho, cps is variable valve lift on intake port, low profile to high profile using trilobe cam to enhance the power from mid to high range n for low to mid,since no variable valve timing being used,it being replace by vim-variable intake manifold(like iafm)which is ecu activated,as the name suggest on intake cuz vvt plus vvl is not quite cost efficient for prtn. even vim n vvt has nearly same objective,to generate more torque at low rpm,but vim only control the air,but vvt cntrol the valve opening n duration n more efficient.

nfe, vvt,without vvl n turbo.

cfe, vvt with single scroll turbo. why use vvt,more cost efficient than twin charger n twin scroll turbo.

vvt n vim are more emmision friendly than vvl. it doesnt mean it cant be done,but hard, time cnsuming n cost related.

nfe is of course the most fuel efficient campro among campro variants n bosch also lending a helping hand,but of course,it is not the most fuel efficient engine out there,just among the campros :-).

but interm of technological advancement, i think it will be better than suprima,inside n out(proton to proton comparison,not other makes)

gcc will be a shy n humble car compare competitors,maybe a dark horse if every thing goes well. if not,then it just a proton n i believe that the rnd team work really hard against the limitation. maybe some suprises during the launch :-).
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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ Jun 17 2014, 03:59 PM)
taiwan is slower than us  laugh.gif

last week = honda crv

last month they baru introduce new honda civic
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maybe their honda civic is the usa facelift version? u know the higher class interior which ours kena kutuk kau kau for being plasticky

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