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post Jun 17 2014, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ Jun 17 2014, 11:49 AM)
2014 exora and suprima S will have turbo emblem instead of CFE
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yup baru je tengok kat showroom minggu lepas. baguslah sekurang-kurangnya rakyat marhaen paham sikit. ini bila tanya salesman dia pon pening.

"CFE ni apa?"

"Turbo bang"

"abestu kenapa tak letak turbo je? kan senang takyah salesman macam awak explain berkali-kali"

"saya pon tak tau la bang apa proton marketing team pikir"
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post Jun 17 2014, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(ojan @ Jun 17 2014, 12:26 PM)
ermmm NFE=VVT(variable valve timing) , different than IAFM..
about the fc..dunno. i don't quick to judge, see result first then flame
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so what's the difference between this NFE and CPS? both are valve timing too. jengjengjeng.
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post Jun 17 2014, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(ashcrimson @ Jun 17 2014, 12:31 PM)
wonder what u call perodua car then hmm.gif
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post Jun 17 2014, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(ojan @ Jun 17 2014, 12:38 PM)
dunno mang..but i know there are several ways to implement vvt
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using the same engine but with 2 similar tech which application is far different from each other and used them on cars that doesn't need it (Exora CPS, Waja CPS). I dont know what proton is thinking. bayar gaji buta ? kroni ? syukur DRB-Hicom ambik kalau bawah khazanah nasional entah berapa billion nak songlap lagi.

CPS = high revving tech, almost similar like VTEC in concept except it has 2 openings instead of 1 in traditional VTEC.
NFE = supposedly VVT like perodua's DVVT, toyota VVTI

now CPS was introduced during Tengku Mahaleel's time. and then Syed Zainal cleaned up his sh!t and produced Proton Persona (based on i dont know what he think when doing Gen.2), this GCC, solved power window problem and continue research on NFE.
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post Jun 17 2014, 01:52 PM

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QUOTE(Toyoi @ Jun 17 2014, 01:44 PM)
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kalau kereta ni boleh sama atau surpass hyundai i10 in terms of safety bagus la.

tapi orang tetap nak beli tin milo viva. camne toyoi ?
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QUOTE(Toyoi @ Jun 17 2014, 02:10 PM)
Marketing trick...? Perodua "Lagi jimat lagi best" vs. Potong "Lagi safety lagi best"...
Yes clone abang adik...
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"Lagi cepat mati lagi best" vs. "Lagi sengsara hidup lagi best" laugh.gif
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post Jun 18 2014, 01:38 AM

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QUOTE(mat79 @ Jun 18 2014, 01:35 AM)
imho, cps is variable valve lift on intake port, low profile to high profile using trilobe cam to enhance the power from mid to high range n for low to mid,since no variable valve timing being used,it being replace by vim-variable intake manifold(like iafm)which is ecu activated,as the name suggest on intake cuz vvt plus vvl is not quite cost efficient for prtn.  even vim n vvt has nearly same objective,to generate more torque at low rpm,but vim only control the air,but vvt cntrol the valve opening n duration n more efficient.

nfe, vvt,without vvl n turbo.

cfe, vvt with single scroll turbo. why use vvt,more cost efficient than twin charger n twin scroll turbo.

vvt n vim are more emmision friendly than vvl. it doesnt mean it cant be done,but hard, time cnsuming n cost related.

nfe is of course the most fuel efficient campro among campro variants n bosch also lending a helping hand,but of course,it is not the most fuel efficient engine out there,just among the campros :-).

but interm of technological advancement, i think it will be better than suprima,inside n out(proton to proton comparison,not other makes)

gcc will be a shy n humble car compare competitors,maybe a dark horse if every thing goes well. if not,then it just a proton n i believe that the rnd team work really hard against the limitation. maybe some suprises during the launch :-).
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ah at last someone knowledgeable replied me. terima kasih bro. notworthy.gif

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