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 4 Critical Signs of a Bubble Market V7, UUU still trounced DDD

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post Jul 21 2014, 09:40 PM

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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Jul 21 2014, 09:02 PM)
2000sqf is a building which built in 2001. 2000sqf is a land. It has been already for 13 yrs. Very good got big ponds, garden, garage can fill 2 cars. Walau I said to father not to sell but he said must must sell otherwise confiscated by bank too.
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Walao..your dad is lucky lo....my dad hav 1 acre land with a banglow, pond and durian tree only manage to sell for 50k. Last time bought for 500k. Crash lo.. luckily still can sell at 50k ah...
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post Jul 21 2014, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(Tigerr @ Jul 21 2014, 10:08 PM)
Next time if got similar deal. Tell us. We will pay 51k....tongue.gif
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Unfortunately after suzhou no more ship. You hav to keep waiting. πŸ˜‚
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post Jul 22 2014, 08:53 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jul 22 2014, 06:35 PM)
Malaysia total debt is over 150% gdp.

If your debt is over 20 times of your annual income,  you are over stretched and vulnerable to interest rate change.
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My debts is 5 times of my household annual income. Under leverage lo..😒 BBB!!!
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post Jul 22 2014, 08:54 PM

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QUOTE(Tigerr @ Jul 22 2014, 08:36 PM)
Today MAS share up 15%.... those who laughing, Jliew has made 15% gross profits in front of your eyes in just a few days. Out of sympathy, he went to support MAS share n now rewarded for his kindness....so, in short, in bad n trying times, if u dare to make the move, u never know your rewards is knocking on your door. Few days ago, I saw lots of people talking about MAS going to bankrupt bla bla bla....laugh.gif
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I remember i said that....so tomorrow will drop 20%!
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post Jul 22 2014, 08:56 PM

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QUOTE(Jliew168 @ Jul 22 2014, 07:02 PM)
So what is your professional advise as economist student and anything that worthy to invest?  Seem from your side everything look wrong and too risky
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You are wasting gas on asking this. The best investment for an economist student is keep the money in milo tin and hide under the bed. Keep in fd is just too risky.
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post Jul 22 2014, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Jul 22 2014, 05:19 PM)
property agents and flippers... some even say they help to contribute to Malaysian GDP wor..

today KL shares naik oh...haizzz 2.7 points lor... i know many uker bank in hard for MAS shares coz tahun melawat Malaysia maa... hehe  smile.gif .got untung remember us DDD..
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Now you are in share liao ah? Dont invest now oh....generally all bursa shares are over valued. Hmm...hav to wait till it drop below 1000 point. Ideally 700. The strategy now is wait....by the way....drop 2.7 points not worth mentioning. 😁
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post Jul 22 2014, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Jul 22 2014, 11:02 AM)
From Meja Bulat to Serious Kopitiam to just Kopitiam
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As long as people are entertained. What is the problem? πŸ˜ƒ
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post Jul 22 2014, 09:06 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Jul 21 2014, 11:50 PM)
have the same thought too, dunno how the BLR and GST effect yet... if there are good offers in between, sure will go for it..
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Not only this. Now US and russia are prepared into war....blr and gst is nothing to mention. Wait...this year cannot buy. Next gst also cannot buy. 2016 too far to predict. Maybe another sars, wars .... so wait! At the same time continue to talk kok here. Lately you are not so active liao. 😒
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post Jul 22 2014, 10:57 PM

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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Jul 22 2014, 10:28 PM)
last time my father bought for 30k only in 2000 but did heavy renovation until 1 year.the house is look like a hotel, the ceiling is with the solid wood. is it a big deal? I am jealous condo in KL can sell profit 500%!
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no need jealous. Come come...I sell to you. 50% discount!
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post Jul 22 2014, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(Jliew168 @ Jul 22 2014, 10:14 PM)
Good lesson from your boss anyway I still put my hope on iceman will come out on something rather than just point out the weakness without solution
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do you have bangku? you may need one.
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post Jul 24 2014, 06:51 AM

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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Jul 24 2014, 02:58 AM)
I have about 1 friend rich ma have >USD100 million, 2 other friends >USD 20 million. But they tell me they got lucky. They said make friends with people above you and have networks with others. It's not what you know but who you know. Just that tips.
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I hav a friend's family have >usd1bil. He told me important of networking too eg networking at lyn.
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post Jul 24 2014, 06:53 AM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jul 23 2014, 12:08 PM)
Depending on how much $ you have and risks appetite, my preference are;
- financial and big names stocks in NYSE, London
- property in major cities the U.S and London
- property related stocks in the U.S and U.K
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Do consider all these lower risk compare to malaysia property?
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post Jul 24 2014, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jul 24 2014, 02:19 PM)
The person was offered opportunity must have the resources to complete the task also.
Typical herd behavior, birds of feather flock together.
If one believe economy is in cyclic movement, buying after bottomed is low risks, although it take longer for price to increase. Given Malaysia property price is near peak or passed peak, higher chance or almost certain for price to go negative than positive.
You could buy into big name (McDonald's, Coca cola, Starbucks, Citibank, BoA, Berkshire Hathaway, Walmart, AIG, Nike, Apple, Microsoft, etc) or property related stocks through either online, Singapore stock broker or some local stock brokers.
To invest property in London or US cities, you should be familiar with the city first. Suggest you make a few visits there before you decide.
Foreigners can buy property in UK and US, and normally pay cash. Alternatively, some local banks do offer loan for property in London Zone 1 to 3 only. You should allow about 5% of purchase price for stamp duty, insurance, survey, etc.

Btw, I am only a student not a sifu.
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Halo...Dow Jone at all time high le....no bubble? London property also. Better than malaysia?
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post Jul 24 2014, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jul 24 2014, 04:00 PM)
Historical stock price is real life example.

For property in London and US, don't think you have enough fund at the moment. As for stocks, as long as you keep to those big names, chance for you to fail is minute.
Property market is very much depending on cheap liquidity. As local banks are tightening up credit means property market transaction and price will be curtailed.

Given U.S and E.U economy is on path of recovery, expect well run companies will do well.
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Facebook is traded at usd75 per share now. What is their PE? low risk? What is apple PE? Google? Still cheap? Not sure which big name you mention😧
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post Jul 24 2014, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jul 24 2014, 04:36 PM)
U.S and EU went through 2008 recession and could only go up. Malaysian economy has been too good for too long, so could only go down.
If company growth potential is there, why worry about high PE. Why didn't you consider FB when IPO at $38, dropped to $18 or $54 earlier this year?
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2008 till now already 6 years le...how long is your circle? So no worry about PE? Dont care about share valuation? Malaysia no big name? You are more familiar with malaysia big name or US/Europe? My question us actually FB price had increase 100% in a short period. Still ok to buy now?

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post Jul 24 2014, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(Tigerr @ Jul 24 2014, 09:13 PM)
U dont pay the difference, they ll say see u in court...tongue.gif

why u go buy in. NYSE or London market? Big names, u know? laugh.gif
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Taiko...MAS also big name le....no? πŸ˜‰
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Jul 24 2014, 07:26 PM)
Ladies, we have good news :

Mas shares plunged again 42 cents, nett loss of 44 million only
BUT bursa malaysia naik ohh..5.22

http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...-Q2-net-losses/
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Wah...you really shift from prop to share liao ho....good good. Entry cost for share much cheaper. πŸ˜ƒ
No worry...everyone will screw up at the beginning. After pay some tuition fee...you will learn. πŸ˜†

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post Jul 24 2014, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jul 24 2014, 09:38 PM)
In 3 years time, stocks and property price in the u.s and e.u is more likely higher than current. However, property price in Malaysia is almost certain to be lowered.
You can laugh more when your investment turned negative in the future.
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Haha....damn kao xiao.

Where you study your economic? I will make sure my children not enrol to the same kolej.
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post Jul 24 2014, 09:48 PM

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Bear bear....if u wan to buy shares...make sure u dont listen to the student ok....he will bring u to holan.

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post Jul 24 2014, 10:30 PM

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QUOTE(Dern @ Jul 24 2014, 10:16 PM)
actually a person that has been through "real" experience will know if he really have been through this before, not merely judge a person "student" just because he admit he is a "student"

the fact everyone suddenly rejoice after seeing you say you are student ah, makes me wonder who are the real students  laugh.gif
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i am student too!!. are you? or maybe you are professor. care to share your view on US/Europe stock Vs Malaysia prop? don talk kok ok! rclxm9.gif

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