[V24] Lowyat.Net Mechanical Keyboard Club, So much GB, yet money not much.
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 Jul 23 2014, 02:42 PM
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Currently considering the prototype for LYNK. Would you all prefer that the switch slots to have a cutout at the side to facilitate easy cover removal?
The benefits, of course, would be that it is easier to change the springs and stems when you are itchy for it. Drawbacks would be cost and rigidity, of course. |
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Jul 23 2014, 03:36 PM
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Harder to cut since more movements.
I'm still cracking my head over the layout because the best layout would require non-standard caps, and I'm trying my best to make a layout that can just utilize the keys from a TKL-sized ANSI set without being too much out of place. |
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Jul 23 2014, 04:04 PM
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QUOTE(zennasyndroxx @ Jul 23 2014, 03:50 PM) i think at most also add tsangan ba for 1.5x Problem comes at making plates for this kind of layouts. I will sacrifice a lot of rigidity for flexibility, and the right side of the bottom row is not that flexible to accommodate tsangan layout like a standard 60% |
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Jul 23 2014, 06:59 PM
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QUOTE(Ulysses @ Jul 23 2014, 01:55 PM) Ok.i will.my budget only 400.... ds3 tkl rm429 so tempting. And ducky zero shine rm380. Thats two I can think of. DS3 more bling. More blingy funktion. |
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Jul 23 2014, 07:01 PM
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BTW guys, Ergodox on massdrop again. Would have splurged for a second set if I wasn't so broke.
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Jul 24 2014, 01:00 AM
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QUOTE(quovadis123 @ Jul 24 2014, 12:47 AM) Around RMB 120 to RMB 150 for normal pbt for single color regardless of blanks or legend. Bagi link for BSP can? Search can't find.For IMSTO (thick pbt): - blanks : RMB 350 - legend : RMB 520 If for BSP's pbt, ~ RMB 950. |
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Jul 24 2014, 10:48 AM
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QUOTE(lace @ Jul 23 2014, 07:20 PM) again? Once you go custom, you'll never go back. Besides, my dad seemed interested in mine when I was using it. not enough meh ? QUOTE(0168257061 @ Jul 24 2014, 03:02 AM) same here, kinda like the simple design. Good stuff man.wait until some minor problems are rectified, then can proceed to GB liao.  What other pcb want to be supported? Nerd TKL is good enough.  Good quality stuff. Yeah, the design is kinda base on KMAC 2 as reference. But the rear is definitely not the same. base on kmac2 CE as reference only. but internally, it is different. |
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Jul 24 2014, 01:26 PM
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QUOTE(imbibug @ Jul 24 2014, 12:25 PM) I don't know if there can ever be hands down winner when it comes to typing feel since both brands are considered to be good and there really isn't something thats so different between those 2 brands that would change the typing feel compared to say different types of keycaps/switches. Some say that the feel is different because Filco's pcb is thicker or they have filled through hole soldering but its going to be quite minor when both Filco/Ducky are plate mounted keyboards. Good Lord. You're entitled to your opinions. Most of us would just get a Filco and change the keycaps in an instant anyway. And Filco's aren't exactly trouble free: Misalignment case/keycaps: Filco shifted pcb/case, keys too close to edge filco camo alignment trouble Ping trouble: My new Filco Pings (on numerous keys) (see insulation fix!) A less drastic fix is to use some insulation material like pvc mats between the pcb/case. Swapping(resoldering) the switches is also another fix that is used. Interestingly Elite posted on reddit that the thicker pcb 'feature' was really a fix for (Filco's) design flaw and marketed as an improvement for 'typing feel'. I wonder if design flaw was about the ping issue. "Filcos do not use higher quality components. Leopolds sold in the US use higher quality electrical components. Currently manufactured FILCOs differ from Leopolds, from a component quality standpoint, only in that they use 2 sided PCB...a feature EK specified to Diatec in order to make up for the shortcomings in the structural design flaws in the Filco case and backplate, a feature Diatec sells as improving the typing feel..." http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboard...opold_vs_filco/ Filco reputation for quality comes from them being the first or one of the first in the business and keeping the product relatively unchanged, no cheaping out. But that stodgy unchanging atittude means that any improvements take a long time to get done. Although I do get what you mean when you said that there might be problems with Filco. There is no such thing as a perfect MKB being sold retail. Even I am personally unsatisfied with my custom that I spend two months tinkering and fiddling with the thing. The only way to completely make me happy is to be able to make a custom board using topre switches and Cherry MX sliders with BSP caps on Ergodox-Lighsaver hybrid with unibody alu case and a dual-layer PCB with LEDs everywhere, and I know that will never happen until I do it myself. In the end, I judge the keyboard and the keycaps differently. I have never reviewed a keyboard based on it's stock keycaps because they are so easy to replace that the point is moot. Each keyboard is solid in it's own ways, and I would still prefer Filco over Ducky unless I need bling bling shiny shine LEDs. |
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Jul 24 2014, 05:19 PM
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I love it when some guy comes along with a few year old information and try to act smart after googling "Filco problems."
I can do the same with Leopold and cherry-pick (heh) my choice of answers and say Leopold is useless.  |
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Jul 24 2014, 05:29 PM
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QUOTE(zennasyndroxx @ Jul 24 2014, 05:24 PM) >google problems But you see this dupe is busybody about Filco vs Leopold. Question asked in the first place is Filco vs Ducky. >see date of posting >think manufacturer won't fix >use old news or >google problems >ignore date of posting >use old news but seriously though, I think we do a side by side comparison with leopold also okay whut. didn't know kmac got slight annoyances like you guys mentioned but it's not really big of a deal eh? Such display of attempted cleverness... |
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Jul 24 2014, 05:46 PM
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QUOTE(zennasyndroxx @ Jul 24 2014, 05:42 PM) derail level 99 A lot of possibilities. Currently I'm inspired by Nerd's case and the acrylic lightsaver. Both uses 1.6~2mm alu plate.also, for lynk you planning to use full acrylic even plates? |
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Jul 25 2014, 12:16 AM
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QUOTE(imbibug @ Jul 24 2014, 11:59 PM) I never said Filco had a bad reputation, in fact I said it had a good reputation. I pointed out some common but minor issues with the Filco. I still consider it a good brand. That sounds like hogwash comparing to what you said earlier about Filco having problems. Make up your mind...Like I said, if i don't care about bling bling, I'd pick Filco any day over Ducky, and that's my own two cents. Go troll elsewhere. |
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Jul 25 2014, 01:07 AM
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QUOTE(imbibug @ Jul 25 2014, 12:48 AM) I'll ignore your personal remarks instead of reporting your post this time. Go ahead and report. As if I'm going to care what some 2 bit troll says in an internet forum. Boo hooo hoo. Explain why you would choose 'Filco any day over Ducky' despite deficiencies in 'bling bling' (if that is what you're implying). Better pcb? Better support? Like I said, generally better build quality, and keys presses feel more solid. Less flex on the case when bottoming out. Lubed costar stabs feel better than unmodified cherry stabs. These things add up to a better quality for the board. Like I also said many times, I don't give a crap about the keycaps because I will never use stock keycaps to compare between boards since you're not having a consistent benchmark. Just so you know, I used IMSTO between the two, so 'nuff said. Now, unless you have some actual personal experience about either boards, I suggest that you keep quiet and stop quoting GH threads from 2011, because I can cherry-pick threads that complain about Ducky or Leopold or Topre too. Just shut up if you don't have anything relevant to contribute. |
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Jul 25 2014, 01:59 AM
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If acrylic please use laser cutter. CNC only worth if you're going high end alu. I have no CNC contacts yet, but I think my laser guy can do cnc. I can try asking.
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Jul 25 2014, 10:18 AM
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QUOTE(zennasyndroxx @ Jul 25 2014, 02:11 AM) I'll go with either stainless steel or alu. If price is expensive for a plate then I'll just make acrylic Will cost you less than RM80 for the Phantom TKL plate using alu. I just asked the guy what alu he's gonna use, so stay tuned for that. Acrylic is RM52 for the same plate. QUOTE(diaBoliQu3 @ Jul 25 2014, 04:51 AM) It's sadding when I read Filco is bad. Damn... Work la.  BTW, why so many group buy? Where did you guys get money?  QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Jul 25 2014, 08:47 AM) http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/la...76c079c30c65b60 KBT Race, bordering on Lightsaver already. You might wanna rearrange your nav cluster and put the printsreen-pausebreak in a row since you have the space anyway, although I don't see the need for these keys in the 21st century.Kindly comment on this layout. Thank you for your attention. |
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Jul 25 2014, 10:44 AM
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QUOTE(zennasyndroxx @ Jul 25 2014, 10:26 AM) maggi 24/7 SUS304 around same price. Actually cheaper than alu. D: +1 planning to go alu or steel straight actually since this is (planning to be) my TKL endgame huehue nice less than 80! better than geekwhack groupbuy. 35usd but stainless steel though. shipping lagi hmmm QUOTE(redlum @ Jul 25 2014, 10:41 AM) Nobody else has this keyboard? Don't think so... |
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Jul 25 2014, 12:14 PM
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No longer understand the need for dedicated function keys beyond F2 and F5 (which you can map using custom firmware anyway)...
Now trying to sell off my lightsaver for a smaller footprint keyboard. Haven't used my fullsized topre for a long time. Might sell that too. |
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Jul 27 2014, 12:12 AM
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QUOTE(sheng0729 @ Jul 27 2014, 12:07 AM) trying to keep near 100 but i know is impossible.....can recommed the cheapest...doesn't need to be full keyboard... Double that still second hand only  |
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Jul 27 2014, 06:35 PM
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Family photo.
 p/s; all you Filco haters... godai.jpg because I lazy explain ady. Your money you make your own decisions. But when you come back complain and shit, don't start to feel butthurt when seniors shoot you. |
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Jul 27 2014, 11:15 PM
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QUOTE(lace @ Jul 27 2014, 07:26 PM) ergo dox project completE? Old photo. Physically complete, just waiting two more items only to make it perfect. I'm using it as a daily driver to force myself to type using two hands.tuhao~ |
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