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TSXccess
post Jun 6 2014, 09:41 AM, updated 9y ago

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Pancreas cancer took my Dad away 3 years ago at the age of 70, he had 2 brothers who passed away with similar illness. I did some research and found it runs in the family. Chances of me getting it is about 10%, researcher said this rare cancer can take up to 2 decades to develop and goes undetected till it reaches advance stage, only 5% percent survival rate.

I wanted to get myself screen but modern science has yet to come up early detection tool. Had a recent blood+urine test with full body check up, results came back fine. Knowing this cancer can go through undetected certainly worries me.

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post Jun 6 2014, 09:46 AM

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My dad had the same thing 8 years ago.

The symptoms starts real late when the lump on the Pancreas has push one side of his stomach giving him stomach discomfort such as gastric and nausea feeling.

For several weeks he visited the doc for med and thought it was a normal thing.

When he decided to visit the specialist when the symptoms arent going away. We found out in the xray there was a lump and hopefully it wasnt cancerous that will spread around the organ..

But it was already too late when the symptom is out.

cancer take years to develop just like you said.
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post Jun 6 2014, 09:47 AM

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One question. Is your dad a heavy smoker?

Mine was. 1-2 packs a day till the age of 58 which took him away
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post Jun 6 2014, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(Xccess @ Jun 6 2014, 09:41 AM)
Pancreas cancer took my Dad away 3 years ago at the age of 70, he had a 2 brothers who passed away with similar illness. I did research and found it could have run in the family and my chances is about 10%, researcher noted this rare cancer can take up to 2 decades to develop and goes undetected till it reaches advance stage, only 5% percent of survival rate.

I wanted to get myself screen but modern science has yet to come up early detection tool. Had a recent blood and urine test with full body check up with perfectly fine results. Knowing this cancer can go through undetected certainly worries me.
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Hi Bro,

The best way to eliminate cancer is early detection. Since there is a probability, I recommend that you do health screening often.

Besides that, do avoid things that can lead to pancreatic cancer and do take anti oxidants to help reduce and fight cancer.

I believe you should have read this, but nevertheless here are what you should know.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pancreatic_cancer
braveheartz
post Jun 6 2014, 10:06 AM

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I am in the same circumstances as you guys.
My dad was diagnosed with PC and passed away 6 months later.

If you have anyone over 70 diagnosed with PC, I would say that the best is not to do any operations on the patient (relating to the PC). The fact that PC once diagnosed is most likely at the last stage because early stages rarely shows any symptoms. My dad's symptoms are stomach discomfort and jaundice (due to the cancer blocking the bile duct). What you can do instead is to advise the patient to turn vegetarian and cut out / lessen the sugar intake for the patient. Most cancer cells live just like normal cells but they (the cancer cells) especially thrive on meat proteins and sugar in blood. The more these "nutrients" intake, the faster they will grow. So in order to slow down the growth

For those who are religious, can ask the patient to pray and make peace with themselves and all those around them. The effect is actually to make peace with the cancer cells themselves. It is rarely known that cancer cells are actually present in most if not all creatures. It is only that during the "right" conditions (stress level, hormone changes, dietary, smoking / drinking habits) that the cell will actually trigger to grow and overtake the other normal cells.

My advise is to not be scared by the fact that you (and me included) have a higher chance of PC. Cancer cells are a part of us (including those with lesser chance of PC) so try to live your life the best way you can and do more good deeds while you can. The power of sincere prayers and deeds are not to be underestimated.

Last but not least, treasure those around you.

After all, it matters more how you have lived your life meaningfully rather than how you die, because eventually dying is one of the three certain things in life (growing old, getting sick, death).
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post Jun 6 2014, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(aegis`- @ Jun 6 2014, 09:47 AM)
One question. Is your dad a heavy smoker?

Mine was. 1-2 packs a day till the age of 58 which took him away
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I'm sorry for your loss. Yes, my dad is a smoker, so am I but I 've cut down and eventually stop 3 weeks ago, I'm 39 this year btw. My Dad had the exact same symptoms just that he refused to consult doctor, by the time he was admitted, it was already final stage. Passed away 2-3 weeks after admission.

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post Jun 6 2014, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(celicaizpower @ Jun 6 2014, 09:49 AM)
Hi Bro,

The best way to eliminate cancer is early detection. Since there is a probability, I recommend that you do health screening often.

Besides that, do avoid things that can lead to pancreatic cancer and do take anti oxidants to help reduce and fight cancer.

I believe you should have read this, but nevertheless here are what you should know.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pancreatic_cancer
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Thanks Bro, I have gone through that already but nevertheless I appreciate your input. Yes, already taking fruits with high antioxidants and doing my best to keep healthy.

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post Jun 6 2014, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(braveheartz @ Jun 6 2014, 10:06 AM)
I am in the same circumstances as you guys.
My dad was diagnosed with PC and passed away 6 months later.

If you have anyone over 70 diagnosed with PC, I would say that the best is not to do any operations on the patient (relating to the PC). The fact that PC once diagnosed is most likely at the last stage because early stages rarely shows any symptoms. My dad's symptoms are stomach discomfort and jaundice (due to the cancer blocking the bile duct). What you can do instead is to advise the patient to turn vegetarian and cut out / lessen the sugar intake for the patient. Most cancer cells live just like normal cells but they (the cancer cells) especially thrive on meat proteins and sugar in blood. The more these "nutrients" intake, the faster they will grow. So in order to slow down the growth

For those who are religious, can ask the patient to pray and make peace with themselves and all those around them. The effect is actually to make peace with the cancer cells themselves. It is rarely known that cancer cells are actually present in most if not all creatures. It is only that during the "right" conditions (stress level, hormone changes, dietary, smoking / drinking habits) that the cell will actually trigger to grow and overtake the other normal cells.

My advise is to not be scared by the fact that you (and me included) have a higher chance of PC. Cancer cells are a part of us (including those with lesser chance of PC) so try to live your life the best way you can and do more good deeds while you can. The power of sincere prayers and deeds are not to be underestimated.

Last but not least, treasure those around you.

After all, it matters more how you have lived your life meaningfully rather than how you die, because eventually dying is one of the three certain things in life (growing old, getting sick, death).
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Sorry for your loss Bro. For most cases, victims of Pancreatic cancer are age between 60-80 therefore if I were to fall victim, I still have a good 20-40 yrs to go *touchwood*. What puzzles me is we are living in a modern era with so much medical science breakthrough, why they are not able to come out with a early detection tool.

I will live my life to the fullest, dwelling unnecessarily won't make life any better.
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post Jun 6 2014, 10:57 AM

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Thanks bro, btw my dad passed away in 2009.

Nowadays if you care to search around, you will see so much growth hormones being pumped to the foodstuffs (yes both meats and vegetables). So you can imagine the amount of hormones that we ingest each day.

No matter how good is technology for early detection, if you do not change your lifestyle (that most like triggers the cancer cell growth into PC in the first place), then your condition will not get much better.

There are cases of younger patients with PC (just google and you will find it).

Bro, I don't want to sound like a cheong hei fellow, but I beg to differ. To me, it is not dwelling unnecessarily by caring those around you and doing good deeds. Power of good karma are never to be underestimated. That being said, I am not asking you to drop everything you do and be a recluse and just go around helping people. Continue what good things you are doing, stop / lessen the bad things you are doing and if you can do more good.

Cheers!
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post Jun 6 2014, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(braveheartz @ Jun 6 2014, 10:57 AM)
Thanks bro, btw my dad passed away in 2009.

Nowadays if you care to search around, you will see so much growth hormones being pumped to the foodstuffs (yes both meats and vegetables). So you can imagine the amount of hormones that we ingest each day.

No matter how good is technology for early detection, if you do not change your lifestyle (that most like triggers the cancer cell growth into PC in the first place), then your condition will not get much better.

There are cases of younger patients with PC (just google and you will find it).

Bro, I don't want to sound like a cheong hei fellow, but I beg to differ. To me, it is not dwelling unnecessarily by caring those around you and doing good deeds. Power of good karma are never to be underestimated. That being said, I am not asking you to drop everything you do and be a recluse and just go around helping people. Continue what good things you are doing, stop / lessen the bad things you are doing and if you can do more good.

Cheers!
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I understand your point Bro. I always believe in helping those in need and respecting the elders. Caring and sharing to make this world a better place. A little helping hand goes a long way. From the conversation, I'm sure you will be bless with great health and many good years down the road. Have a wonderful weekend to everyone.

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post Jun 6 2014, 07:13 PM

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Supplements which will bolster your chances against pancreatic cancer.

These botanicals act by blocking genetic and biochemical signalling pathways
of cancer cells.

EGCG, for example, inhibits PI3K, Akt, mTOR and hedgehog.


EGCG
Pterostilbene
Baicalein and baicalin (from Scutellaria baicalensis, the common Chinese
anticancer herb)


Throw in a low dose of celecoxib, say 200 mg twice weekly, as well.


Other botanicals to consider :

Curcumin
Resveratrol
Genistein
Quercetin
Apigenin



Baicalein – An Intriguing Therapeutic Phytochemical in Pancreatic Cancer.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3678518/



Baicalein, a component of Scutellaria baicalensis, induces apoptosis
by Mcl-1 down-regulation in human pancreatic cancer cells.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3123440/





Inhibitory effects of (-)-epigallocatechin-3-gallate and pterostilbene on
pancreatic cancer growth in vitro.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/22583593



Genomic analysis of pterostilbene predicts its antiproliferative effects
against pancreatic cancer in vitro and in vivo.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/22450950/



Pterostilbene inhibits pancreatic cancer in vitro.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/20140535/



PI3K/AKT/mTOR signaling is involved in (-)-epigallocatechin-3-gallate-induced
apoptosis of human pancreatic carcinoma cells.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/23711146




EGCG inhibits growth of human pancreatic tumors orthotopically implanted
in Balb C nude mice through modulation of FKHRL1/FOXO3a and neuropilin.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/22971992




(-)-Epigallocatechin-3-gallate, a green tea-derived catechin, synergizes with celecoxib
to inhibit IL-1-induced tumorigenic mediators by human pancreatic adenocarcinoma
cells Colo357.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/22497997




Inhibition of hedgehog/Gli signaling by botanicals: a review of compounds
with potential hedgehog pathway inhibitory activities.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/23675897





Chinese Skullcap: A Viable Adjunct To Cancer Treatment.

http://www.meschinohealth.com/ArticleDirec...ancer_Treatment



Baicalein can't be found in health food stores, but can be ordered from China.

http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/baic..._511970440.html

http://www.alibaba.com/baicalein-98%2525-suppliers.html




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a close relative has recently been diagnosed with PC....your article is useful. thank you.

 

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