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TSalvintan84
post Aug 9 2006, 04:40 PM, updated 20y ago

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What guidelines will u set for new video game console to develop? Like future video game console. Need some facts& ideas, for my project resources, thx! biggrin.gif
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post Aug 9 2006, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(alvintan84 @ Aug 9 2006, 04:40 PM)
What guidelines will u set for new video game console to develop? Like future video game console. Need some facts& ideas, for my project resources, thx! biggrin.gif
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first and foremost,dont do The Phantom laugh.gif laugh.gif
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post Aug 9 2006, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ Aug 9 2006, 05:02 PM)
first and foremost,dont do The Phantom laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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Thx for ur "awesome" source, but i still need more..anybody help me? laugh.gif
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post Aug 9 2006, 06:37 PM

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Go buy the book "The Xbox 360 Uncloaked"....i really think the insight story of microsoft xbox to xb360 development will help your project.
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post Aug 9 2006, 06:56 PM

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new console? hmm... actually my ideal is a subscription based set-top box. (techonology-wise like xbox) maybe partner it with a cheap portable platform (techonology-wise like GB SP). and no (or very low) licensing fees. the casual gamers market still have lots of room to grow.

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post Aug 9 2006, 07:01 PM

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no (or very low) licensing fees

If you read "The Xbox 360 Uncloaked", microsoft actually thought about doing so by removing the royalty fee but in reality, it will never work because in the console business you already selling the hardware at a loss...you need this royalty fee, otherwise you got no profit at all.
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post Aug 9 2006, 07:12 PM

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nintendo seldom sell its hardware at a loss (maybe marketing costs alot?) yet it has no problems charging licensing fees to 3rd party developers.
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post Aug 9 2006, 10:57 PM

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QUOTE(PrivateJohn @ Aug 9 2006, 06:37 PM)
Go buy the book "The Xbox 360 Uncloaked"....i really think the insight story of microsoft xbox to xb360 development will help your project.
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Our m'sian bookstore got sell? If got maybe i go check it out..Coz i would love 2add that as my project references biggrin.gif

If no royalty fees= confirm "close" shop..they can't survive without it
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QUOTE(PrivateJohn @ Aug 9 2006, 06:37 PM)
Go buy the book "The Xbox 360 Uncloaked"....i really think the insight story of microsoft xbox to xb360 development will help your project.
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did you read the XBOX book?
(something like the xbox 360 uncloaked,but is about the XBOX..(cos i wanna ask you something thats supposedly in the book happy.gif )

QUOTE(acougan @ Aug 9 2006, 06:56 PM)
new console? hmm... actually my ideal is a subscription based set-top box. (techonology-wise like xbox) maybe partner it with a cheap portable platform (techonology-wise like GB SP). and no (or very low) licensing fees. the casual gamers market still have lots of room to grow.
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i just said not to do The Phantom,and you come out with their exact same idea.... laugh.gif laugh.gif

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In 2002, the startup company Infinium Labs issued a press release to all news outlets stating that they would soon release a "revolutionary new gaming platform" that would offer an on-demand video game service, delivering games via an online subscription.
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QUOTE(alvintan84 @ Aug 9 2006, 10:57 PM)
Our m'sian bookstore got sell? If got maybe i go check it out..Coz i would love 2add that as my project references biggrin.gif

If no royalty fees= confirm "close" shop..they can't survive without it
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i have seen the Xbox book in MPH,but havent seen the 360's smile.gif
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post Aug 10 2006, 12:19 AM

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Yea, i understand what u mean, mgsrulz, just want the guidelines on video game console to develop..hehe. If i can find the book, then i might buy it, if not..nvm biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(alvintan84 @ Aug 9 2006, 04:40 PM)
What guidelines will u set for new video game console to develop? Like future video game console. Need some facts& ideas, for my project resources, thx! biggrin.gif
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what do u mean by the guidelines? can u elaborate more...it is about the features of next gen console or how to develop a console games or what? smile.gif
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QUOTE(heterosapiens @ Aug 10 2006, 12:46 AM)
what do u mean by the guidelines? can u elaborate more...it is about the features of next gen console or how to develop a console games or what? smile.gif
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QUOTE(alvintan84 @ Aug 9 2006, 04:40 PM)
What guidelines will u set for new video game console to develop? Like future video game console. Need some facts& ideas, for my project resources, thx! biggrin.gif
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so i guess he wants your opinions thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ Aug 10 2006, 12:50 AM)
so i guess he wants your opinions thumbup.gif
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that is exactly what i'm questioning at...there are a lot of what it can be...either game design, programming, marketing, graphic and etc.... unsure.gif
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QUOTE(heterosapiens @ Aug 10 2006, 12:56 AM)
that is exactly what i'm questioning at...there are a lot of what it can be...either game design, programming, marketing, graphic and etc.... unsure.gif
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Yea, u're right, opinions especially for the video game console (NOT the video game title) laugh.gif
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Thread starter should start by listing everything he has first including his own ideas, then we'll join in.
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QUOTE(alvintan84 @ Aug 10 2006, 11:42 PM)
Yea, u're right, opinions especially for the video game console (NOT the video game title) laugh.gif
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i guess u didn't understand my question... sweat.gif
QUOTE(ikanayam @ Aug 11 2006, 06:22 AM)
Thread starter should start by listing everything he has first including his own ideas, then we'll join in.
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True that.
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post Aug 11 2006, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(ikanayam @ Aug 11 2006, 06:22 AM)
Thread starter should start by listing everything he has first including his own ideas, then we'll join in.
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If i listed the ideas, then there's no point for me 2ask right? Anyway, here's some of the idea i think can be use:

1. Thru R&D
2. Safety measurement
3. Console Develepoment

Mgsrulz answer is correct, but need more guidelines to it..hehe biggrin.gif
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post Aug 11 2006, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(alvintan84 @ Aug 11 2006, 01:13 AM)
If i listed the ideas, then there's no point for me 2ask right? Anyway, here's some of the idea i think can be use:

1. Thru R&D
2. Safety measurement
3. Console Develepoment

Mgsrulz answer is correct, but need more guidelines to it..hehe biggrin.gif
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So you have no ideas of your own at all? Screw it then, i'm out of here.
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QUOTE(ikanayam @ Aug 11 2006, 02:20 PM)
So you have no ideas of your own at all? Screw it then, i'm out of here.
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Buddy, i post up some idea there but u say i don't hv any ideas...Are u trying to threathen me instead of helping me? laugh.gif
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alvintan84: Those "ideas" are pretty much standard guidelines in the development of just about ANYTHING under the sun.

Off the top of my head:
No multiple SKUs
Minimize required/extra upgrades (Remember the PS2 HDD?)
Wireless controllers!
Fast load times
Customizable (Physical unit and OS)
Easy to use SDK
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QUOTE(alvintan84 @ Aug 11 2006, 02:13 PM)
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1. Thru R&D
2. Safety measurement
3. Console Develepoment
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just wondering, what u mean by no.2. u mean anti-piracy measures?

anyway, the set-top box is not my idea, its my ideal console. subscription works for cable & satelite TV, and now online music stores, so maybe casual gaming is next? the actual ppl behing the phantom might have been crooks but doesn't mean the proposed business model wasn't feasible.

the phantom lives on (at least, spiritually via XBLA);
right now, XBLA is doing well, i believe the licensing fees are also very low. cutting out the middlemen of advertisers, distributers & retailers means most of the money paid by the gamer-consumer of XBLA games goes straight to the platform holder+publisher(if there was 1)+developer. i believe XBLA games are also tied to 1 owner (1 account) making used game trading or renting obsolete.

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post Aug 12 2006, 04:56 AM

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QUOTE(alvintan84 @ Aug 11 2006, 02:13 PM)
If i listed the ideas, then there's no point for me 2ask right? Anyway, here's some of the idea i think can be use:

1. Thru R&D
2. Safety measurement
3. Console Develepoment

Mgsrulz answer is correct, but need more guidelines to it..hehe biggrin.gif
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what ikanayam say is correct la... u come here with some homework then u just expect ppl to give u idea like that... u shld start 1st la... give wat idea u have... then we see wat we can suggestion some more...

sucks la... u piss him off oredy... i see he quite good at this kind of tech stuff wat... can give u good idea... wat u said there is not idea la... tat is just topic for discuss.... idea is like wat kind of R&D, wat kind of specs, wat kind of ciplak protect it have... tat kind of thing...

jus look at ps3 lo... all nex gen tech... but dunno can win or not now... so many things must consider la...
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Things that u need to think of (my silly idea):

- console name
- console spec = high end or middle end or low end, price(console and game), size (design)
- target market (ur marketing strategy)
- easy to develop or not
- special feature compare with other pesaing(consoles)..

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mine just one answer

- a truely best game libraries
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post Aug 12 2006, 04:42 PM

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or u can come out console that can play PC games heheheheh laugh.gif
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ok ok, my other idea, implement VR head mounted display + gyro controller/gloves... imagine.. driving cars.. piloting aircraft.. play an FPS.. twist camera/views by just turn ur head.. and STEREO SCOPIC views drool.gif drool.gif

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QUOTE(eone @ Aug 12 2006, 05:27 PM)
ok ok, my other idea, implement VR head mounted display + gyro controller/gloves... imagine.. driving cars.. piloting aircraft.. play an FPS.. twist camera/views by just turn ur head.. and STEREO SCOPIC views  drool.gif  drool.gif
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QUOTE(weed_rocks @ Aug 12 2006, 04:56 AM)
what ikanayam say is correct la... u come here with some homework then u just expect ppl to give u idea like that... u shld start 1st la... give wat idea u have... then we see wat we can suggestion some more...

sucks la... u piss him off oredy... i see he quite good at this kind of tech stuff wat... can give u good idea... wat u said there is not idea la... tat is just topic for discuss.... idea is like wat kind of R&D, wat kind of specs, wat kind of ciplak protect it have... tat kind of thing...

jus look at ps3 lo... all nex gen tech... but dunno can win or not now... so many things must consider la...
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First of all, Thx for everybody ideas..I'll take my time 2analysis 1by 1 and see it can fit it or not.

weedrocks, i don't mean 2hurt anybody feelings, but he might not "understand" to that question, so i assume he get piss off that way. I did listed out standards coz i put there "guidelines for console 2develop", not the "other" way round. Coz if i were 2explain all the standard it couldn't list all here also, right? Btw, the stuff u mention also is belong to those 3ideas laugh.gif

Acougan, yes, it can be a part of anti-pirated too coz it's a standard there too.

P.S: Maybe the title is too "complicated" for everybody..not easy 2understand if glances once time laugh.gif

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