theres a technique to make shotgun shoot fast...

left click hold force move..... and spam press HF key. mines #3....

you'll then notice shotgun spam is faster than doing normally...

this was the case for wizards till it got patched. but not yet patched for crus...


there 2 other techniques that achieve this too, which i tried but i felt my way worked for me best


*i'm shotgun but i have almost 0 attack speed other than from my paragorn points, but i still shoot fast

Not sure what diff it would be for those who stack ias for this, but i doubt it matters right now.

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Jun 10 2014, 02:09 PM

Just wanted to inform you fellow crusaders .... expect great things patch v2.1 .... of particular interest to our class.






I'm hoping the new set buffs would...

1. make phalanx more like immortal king (that isn't reliant on CDR or recasts for phalanx....). Because the current akkhan set is CDR based, so that pretty much sums up that CDR is 99.99% in all Crusader builds...

2. hoping shield bash becomes more viable so as not to be trumped by a heavens fury shotgun build. But at the same time i hope they don't try to nerf HF shotgun to make it as weak as the current shield bash builds.

i envision a shield bash via set would have to have a much wider area of damage that would be competitive against the current shotgun and firestarter builds.... somewhere in between the 2.....

it would also make better use of justice lantern, helm of command and shield of westfall aka wolf shield.



what this all means is..... not much point farming now because some legends will be changing and it won't be retroactive..... so if you've got decent gear like me, not much point other than...

1. working on achievements
2. getting more paragorn (though kinda pointless once you've hit 600+ )



This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Jun 13 2014, 10:56 AM

not much point anyway perma frost if can't clear fast. better just focus on max dps output with wide aoe and sustainable and fast spam rate, it's possible now for crusader, and the 2.0.5 patch toughness update for crusaders has also helped us stay alive better as well.

hm... on side note, i think it was rime 1hand weapon that could kill creatures that are frozen if not mistaken. Wonder how effective that would be.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/rimeheart


So the theory would be, in a 2man group or more, your role would be to freeze mobs, and hope that rime would kill them, assuming that they get frozen and the proc on rime both are consistent, which would outperform or match the current firestarter and shotgun clearance speed.



This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Jun 14 2014, 02:23 AM

yeah thats why i said 2 or more. because the idea is, clearing the trash would be your role, while the elite packs and rg will be up to others.


yeah that would be very interesting

But from what i heard it would be a RANDOM passive..... wonder what they mean exactly by that.

Would it be like the legendary potions, where there will be passive effects not already in the skill table ? Or does it mean random passive from the existing skill table ?

Right now i use

- finery
-indestructible
- heavenly strength
- holy cause


So for a fifth based on the existing skill table, i'd probably want to fit in any of these options
- long arm of the law (extend my law active to 10 instead of 5. Useful for group play buff. I'm using the increase CHD by 100%)
- vigilant (increases life regen, and reduces non physical damage by 20% Seeing as my all resistance is low, i would benefit from this.)

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Jun 14 2014, 05:03 AM

i updated front page you can check from the links. and google if you still need more info

sorta on break now from D3. Nothing much happening anyway >->; For a time i even started playing Barbarian to farm Immortal King's for my barb pet build. Then i ended up farming paragorn just for the lulz with dragon clan, which they by the way ended up making me play Crus again seeing as we could farm malt faster that way. Then got bored of that then went into semi retirement.

Played a bit of final fantasy 3 but on break on that as well. Then i was downloading anime/manga and catching up fixing my collection on my QNAP smbs (crc checks, dupes wut not >_>: )

Probably will be playing more once my new AH-IPS U2413 monitor arrives. want to test if the overshooting will be an issue for Diablo 3 or not xd.

Even my buddy Egg he was a bit meh of wanting to play Diablo 3, cause he too ran out of things to do. I don't see why those dragon clanners are trying to farm beyond 800 paragorn even with the nice xp, you still have to put in the time, but i didn't see much gain in it. It's like 5 main stat for each level once you had maxed out everything else with a fixed max value. I think gabi mentioned it took him something like 70 billion exp or so just to level up now ..... crazy

Anyhow last i checked the main updates to crus would be in the major patch which probably isn't due until 1-2 months time according to a bluepost. My Crusader is more or less maxed. I did try to get a better glove with max cdr, as well as that witching hour, but eluded me

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Jun 27 2014, 09:20 AM

PS: updated my avy for forum

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Jun 27 2014, 10:23 AM

that was quick ..... ptr hm.....

I updated changelog front page. I didn't add everything (there are many changes not necessarily just for Crusaders, but impacts them greatly, e.g. legendary gems, new socketable potion for weapon etc which i didn't include).

Wow.... i'm very excited by these changes..... from what i understand....

1. phalanx is going to get a set ..... there is no doubt, seeing as they added a bunch of complimentary legs for phalanx build. it feels though that this phalanx may still be based on CDR for recasting, so it won't be like immortal king set I SUSPECT !! but still, there are items that extend it, so maybe it could be possible for 100% upkeep if using CDR, very likely.

2. condemn is back baby ! this time though it's going to need the new condemn shield (not that useless akarat's awakening), in order to have 0 cooldown for using condemn. That is just insanely GOOD !!!! This to me seems that a T6 viable build will only be possible with a combination of blade of awakening + this new shield with 0 cooldown. Tbh i'm more of a condemn fan than i was of heavens fire build, so i'm rooting for this new update.



I try my best to keep it updated, but i don't always provide the full changelog details. Instead i would normally link to an external site where you can read the changelog there seeing as it's already nicely formated. Doesn't make sense to do double work for what is already provided :}

When 2.1 comes out, i may need to update t6 viable builds to include phalanx and condemn, which seem to get a boost in this patch. But we will need to wait for this to be confirmed


This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Jun 28 2014, 12:12 AM

okay this.... i did not know.... but DAYUM!!! i want one !

How exactly does seasonal award work i don't understand. Is it you have to find this shield during the season ? Or do you get it only after season ends ?

i can predict opness for this. even before the condemn wasn't truly zero seconds, because you were using the akarat champion to try and shave off some seconds each time your attack hit. Whereas this new seasonal shield is a GUARANTEED 0 seconds !!! that is insane ....

limiting factor is the high cost to cast though Your going to need to leverage on

- cost reduction
- possibly even health orb drop chance
- reaper wraps as usual (for the quick refills you are definitely going to need)
- maybe still cdr gear so you can recast akarat champion (because the skill you can increase your wrath regen for good condemn spam. Ironic because although you have a 0 cdr shield, you'd still need cdr for other core skills. Unless they intend to make a condemn set or other items that would not make it necessary)

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Jun 30 2014, 01:57 AM

by the way guys/girls .... please private message me once v2.1 goes live (not ptr). Then i will resume diablo 3 ....XD

Till then i'm gonna go catch up on my anime and manga till then

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Aug 9 2014, 09:56 PM

i heard weeks. My guess 1-3 months time.


Anyhow.... i noticed that the new ladder crusader shield makes 0 refresh cooldown, but requires more wrath

getting bored of this build. yes it's good and does it's job, but dang :/ These days when i do play, i usually work on my barbarian ancient build xd

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Aug 24 2014, 10:19 AM

any tips on necklace enchants now ?

as for crusader builds go, i'm using condemn build with the blade of prophecy combined with the new zero cooldown shield. very nice for low torments. i even use it for torment 4 rifting just fine.

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Sep 3 2014, 06:13 PM

been busy playing 1st season sc so i apologize not being able to maintain the thread xd.


That said just a reminder of these useful sites/tools to help you with the seasonal gear



http://bannedofgamers.com/index.php?cdr/


The most important thing from the CDR calculations is what is the downtime for your akkarat champion skill.

Sure you could aim for 0 downtime, but my preference is within 3-4 seconds. Because this gives me room to spend points elsewhere e.g. CHD/CHC


from what i've seen the ideal CDR for me is...

12.5 CDR from HELM

90-100% of gem effect in helm. Let's just say it's 8 CDR (this is from the new 2.1 leoric's crown). keep in mind though the effect is maxed at 100% so that means if you socket a diamond it's gonna be 12.5 with another 12.5 (multiplicative not additive of course).

8 CDR vigilante belt

10 CDR shield

8 CDR shoulders

8 CDR gloves

10 CDR from paragorn ( i think you need paragorn lv 200 for this )

akkan set is reduce all abilities cooldowns by 50% while akkarat's is active.



In total that is 48.10 % CDR

which translates as a downtime of 3.36 seconds on Akkarat's champion.

phalanx bowmen 2.79 seconds

shield glare 2.23 seconds

steed - endurance 5.3 seconds

laws of justice - 10.57 seconds

provoke 6.38 seconds

steel skin (iron skin) - 8.57 seconds

condemn (no downtime with the new season shield for condemn. just maybe a 0.3 seconds of delay on recast)




So i don't quite feel the need for CDR on the following items

- weapon
- both rings
- amulet


You could however argue that, rather than use paragorn points on the 10 cdr, you rather use those points on CHD instead, so that you can put the 10 CDR in weapon instead. That is a valid arguement, and i honestly hadn't done the math yet to know if that is the best way to go or not :} But my guess is that, once you are paragorn 600+ where you can afford to get all paragorn stat points, then 10 CDR in weapon is not ideal imho.



I had looked at the roland's set but honestly i am not convinced about a build around it. Condemn (HOLY) and phalanks (physical) are currently one of the best atm. Shotgun (HOLY) is still good, but it has taken a back seat behind those 2 newer ones in terms of potential.

So akkhans set to me is best in slot for condemn, and also can double up for shotgun build. The only stats to replace is the heaven's fury/condemn.

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Sep 8 2014, 01:37 PM

Found a neat bop weapon. Used my gift on it and enchanted 10% dmg.

I know i said cdr is not needed in a final build for condemn, but considering i am low paragorn at the moment, i opted to get cdr so i could use condemn. So the choices for a beginner to mid level sader, you either cdr your weapon or your shield. also one of them needs vitality, so depending on what you get make sure you have the stats needed on one piece or the other.

As for why i have CDR in amulet, that is because i have don't have a better substitute. Also my RORG has CDR which is not needed, and is better of being CHD ideally for my case. So seeing as both these items have cdr, i then opted to make use of a bad situation so i just use ruby in my helm to farm EXP in the meanwhile. Seeing as my CDR is sufficient already so why not.

My chest, glove, belt, shoulders, helm, pants, boots and weapon are perfect. I know they are shy of 100%, but in my view 85-90% from perf is just fine Even a 3.6k dps blade of the prophet is nothing to scoff at, though it would have been nice had it been 3.8 or higher. But from my testing 3.6k bop works fine in T6 and Grifting.

My bad pieces so far are the rings, amulet and shield. Shield lacks condemn which i need. Amulet lacks a socket. rorg lacks CHD, and the other ring ideally i would want a holy stone of jordan, although a unity which i do have is also viable in 2nd place, though i am using leorics for EXP farming for now.


legendary gems

legendary gems.... i recommend

1. boon of the hoarder= gold is amazing. very op right now so why not ? i am already 600million + gold now using this (swap this out for the other 3 gems below when doing grifting)

2. bane of the trapped = use with provoke for a boost in dps

3. mirinae teardrop of the starweaver = the proc rate may seem low, but look at the secondary which is a guaranteed proc every 5 seconds. It's holy dmg and does a lot of it to a single target. Condemn is strong in aoe, so this gem covers the single dps that you may lack.

4. bane of the powerful = this is very good. I would strongly recommend you use horse endurance to make good use of this gem, as you need to move from pack to pack while this buff is still active. not to mention the passive increase dmg to elites !!!





about the build

akarat champion prophet is a must .... it's way too good to ignore not getting. This combined with indestructible, and a short cooldown due to CDR stacks is amazing. This combined with condemn vacuum you can fast clear rifts/grifts :} Not to mention that without a slot for phase boots, it's then up to vacuum + horsey combo to help you grab creeps efficiently.

one thing i noticed was i was spending more time spaming condemn, than having the time to deal left click primary skill in my case smite - reaper. Even trying to renew the effect was taking away time from just spaming the higher dps condemn skill. So i'm thinking the ideal build would replace that for Laws of valor (either critical or unstoppable force). But the cache is, you would then need the passive long arm of the law. But not enough passive slots to fit ? This is where the new ubers amulet comes in. Get 1 of the 5 passives i suggest in this build, and your set




screenshot of build



This is my profile
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Moogle-6806/hero/51719731


http://www.diabloprogress.com/player/moogle-6806

my condemn build
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/crus...WdaS!YaaYYY





in summary

Having my condemn gear ready, i switched to condemn quite easily.

Tested a few builds but ended up using the vacuum condemn because it made runs faster.

My S1 paragorn is not as high as others because i didn't exploit the grift exp trick which many did :/ i think some of them will get bans.

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Sep 9 2014, 07:20 PM

hm... stone of jordan and rorg are usually the main choices.

pre 2.1 bulkhathos ring was recommended for firestarter, but not sure if that has changed. As far as i know they had placed a cap on it so it doesn't scale out of control in greater rifts. Some people told me though that it's doing okay.

found a really nice uber amulet :}

hellfire ring is some sort of chance on hiot cr8 a pool of lava which enemies stand in it take 200% dmg per tick over how many seconds .... there may be a cap on how long before the pool can reappear again. other than that is has more exp gain versus a leoric.

i think it's better than a leoric, but it's too hard to roll nice stats on it, and considering the effort to farm it, i rather use that time to upgrade the amulet which is infinitely better at having.


if you see my profile, my leoric is near perfect, so to me there is no urgent need for the uber ring.

besides i rather use rorg with a stone of jordan, so why waste time farming uber ring when it's gonna be replaced later anyway.

well...... look at it this way...


str= offense + defense (armor = reduces dmg from all sources)


diamond = all resistance = this patches up the defense against magical attacks only. When damage hits you, it first goes through regular armor, before then being reduced further by magical defense aka all res if it's a magical attack. So that is why all res shouldn't be totally ignored, and there should be reasonable a res to help soften the blows from magical attacks.

having said that, when i akarat champion - prophet, my armor sky rockets to dmg reduction of 90% + also remember that armor also negates all sources not merely just physical

for me i did t6 clears by only using strength gems ...... all my all res came from .....

- pants
- boots
- paragorn points (maxed a res)
- shield (ideally though ares would not normally be here ... waiting for a better shield)



my vit/life sources...

- shoulder = doesn't have all res because the 500 vit is rated as better than 100 all res i would think.
- belt (has life %) = rolled out all resistance for life% as other crusaders in the leaderboard had done so, so i tried it and it seems to work.
- helm = also 750 vs 100 all res, what more to say.
- bracer
- shield
-pants
- boots
- paragorn points (has life% after i had maxed all res first)



ranged dmg reduction
- amulet
- bracer
- chest




also for crusaders ranged damage reduction is very beneficial especially when trying to scale up difficulty. i strongly recommend stacking this in secondary stat whenever possible. I'd rate this higher than melee reduction.



for boots i used 12 movement speed, and the remainder 13 from paragorn. the rest i dumped into strength stat. some suggested that instead of str, grab armor or regen. But the way i see it, strength adds toward both offensive as well as defensive stats, so that is why i got strength from paragorn. i'm lv 367 and i get 330 str from paragorn versus having armor or life per sec rolled to replace MS in boots.




in regards to legendary gems i use

- bane of the powerful
- bane of the trapped
- mirinae, teardrop of the star weaver (i switch this out when not doing greater rifts)]


Only bane of the trapped covers the defensive aspect by slowing enemies, then allowing me to kite slightly while i recuperate as in wait for my healing potion or akarat champion cooldown.




amulet i am using uber's which has an extra passive provided which is to me best in slot. however there is eye of etlich which adds in secondary a range reduction stat which is very useful as well. also there are other options like the elemental immunity amulets. Don't forget traveler's pledge if you want more dps and vit. These are the best amulets to get for your crusader.


In total my stats

str = 11,434

armor = 18,339 ( is 45,848 aka 92.91% dmg reduction from all sources .....)


magical resistance range from 550 to 710. this means the lowest 550 all res is reducing magical damage by 61.13, and the highest 710 is reducing by 66.97%


ranged damage reduction = 17.83 %

life % bonus = 34.99

maximum life = 470,767


life per wrath spent = 1618 (i'm using wrathful via my uber amulet)

health globe healing bonus = 27,729

life per hit = 6,596

life per sec = 0



so in summary just from looking at my stats yes all res could definitely help BUT only for Greater Rifts level 33 and above.



Keep in mind i've done 4 person greater rifts successfully on tier 37 max.



Torment 6 regular rifts, and other T6 content (not greater rifts) are all very easy with my defensive stats......



At the end of the day though, even with this defensive aspect covered, it's all meaningly if your damage output sux. Because you want to clear creeps as fast as you can, rather just tanking indefinitely this is why best build at the moment imho is condemn which i am using. I'm nearly perfect in that aspect, just need a holy stone of jordan, a better crusader shield, and a higher dmg bop weapon.


Hope that answers your questions

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Sep 11 2014, 07:18 PM