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Jasoncat
post Jun 11 2014, 11:00 AM

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Can anyone give a comment btw EcoWorld Tenderfields vs KSL Canary Garden (Bandar Bestari @ Klang)? Canary Garden seems more exclusive but quite slow moving and location could also be a concern. Not sure whether it will be a successful project or not. EcoWorlds seems giving buyers more confidence...
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post Jun 11 2014, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(enochtan3668 @ Jun 11 2014, 01:46 PM)
Hard to compare if not like-to-like. I see Canary Garden 3 storey with lift and all cluster.

I was so confused don't know where to look or invest months ago, eventually a colleague told me about Eco on Thursday so I register same day not expecting anything, then receive sms on Fri, go Sat collect ticket some more arrive 11:30am (people queue from Fri night!) and finally choose one unit on Sunday. Decision made in 3 days, action taken on 4th day. Now still in daze but from feedback here, probably not too bad and hopefully no regrets later. happy.gif
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I believe there are no projects with 100% similarities. Canary Garden comes with real smd and cluster as well as bangalow (with and w/o lift). Layout I prefer Canary... Scratching my head now which one to choose...
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post Jun 11 2014, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(tengster @ Jun 11 2014, 02:22 PM)
Jason...There are changes on the layout for clusters. You may want to check out the latest one. I can say there are improvements but not all are good.

Which type you are looking at specifically?
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I'm actually looking at real smd. I have had a look on the layout yesterday in EM sales gallery. Though there could be some fine-tune, I expect no major change to the layout. Price for both (EM and Canary) are around 1.4m. Both are 40x80 but BU for Canary is slightly larger and still have room for extension - not for the case of EM Tenderfields as this is under strata title.

For EM, I may end up not getting a preferred unit / unit with preferred location upon launching and if I only then switch to Canary, I may miss the boat as there are only few units available now. Possibly getting nothing at the end... Pening...

Which one is better? Both got pro snd cons... Pening...
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post Jun 11 2014, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(tengster @ Jun 11 2014, 04:06 PM)
ChrisKor or JasonKor.... can you post Canary layout? Let me throw my spannar here and there.
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Attached the layout for Canary Garden for your reference and comments.

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post Jun 11 2014, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Jun 11 2014, 04:01 PM)
Get both!

IMHO, both Semi-D also very good layout, the difference only could be location separated each other.
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Get both?! How I wish...
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post Jun 11 2014, 11:02 PM

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QUOTE(tengster @ Jun 11 2014, 05:16 PM)
CG input.
1. it has a much conventional layout with wet kitchen at rear.
2. the 2nd balcony on first floor may distort the facade
3. one of the room on first floor has no attached toilet
4. family hall on first floor has balcony...good natural lighting and vent
5. No SPAH
6. MBR layout look much spacious but no walk-in wardrobe effect
7. Entrance has nice provision for shoe racks
8. staircase is quite normal but save space.

EM 40x80
1. non conventional layout - wet kitchen by the side in front with utility room and door for direct access from car porch (some said cn bring grocery in)
2. dining hall is located at rear side....facing the patio or green
3. all first room rooms have attached toilets
4. family hall on first floor doesnt have direct sunlight but via the staricase and tall window....and no balcony at this area
5. Double volume effect from the staircase. It does take up more space.
6. SPAH
7. MBR has walk-in wardrobe...making the MBR looks smaller
8. MBR balcony is wider than CG...(I think back in Ecosky, their balcony is at least 5 feet width).
9. Gateless concept...except the greenwith some metal grille and small length of wall. (i think i shown this pix at cluster discussion)...should be similar.

I cant compare the external facade but I can say 40x80 EM facade is top notch...Which part...The side is the best part IMHO with several lines of elongate glass panel (of different length) and pretty much aligned with the stair profile.....

I have yet to look at FH or LH, developer devlierable and exprience, strata title or ind title, overall township planning, what is ummph factor, any other USPs,
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Thanks bro for the detailed ecplanations! There are actually 2 designs for the EM smd (be it 40x80 or 40x90) - classic and lifestyle. The lifestyle type is the "modern" type whereby the yard and guest room are at the front and the wet kitchen is just right behind the guest room whereas the dinning is at the back. The layout for master bedroom is also a bit "weird" (to my standard). As for the classic type, which is the more common one, the bathroom in the master bedroom is facing /beside the bed - quite a weird design. In general, the master bedroom for both types are not spacious enough. I'm also concern whether there is enough sunlight getting in the 1st floor family hall.

As for CG, I would say the master bedroom is more spacious though the family hall at 1st floor is smaller due to space being sacrificed for 4 bedrooms. But the kitchen area (particularly wet kitchen) is smaller.

Facade I tend to prefer CG (pls see pic).

Nevertheless, valuation wise I believe that EM has greater upside potential partly attributed by the fact that together with SPS Ecohill the vicinity is expected to be a well planned, high grade townships. Of course the fact that Tan Sri LKS being the mastermind for these projects (EM and Ecohill) also carry some intangible values which we can't ignore. CG lacks of other sizeable high end projects (by other developers) which could uphold the values of the properties there which shall take into consideration of the facilities and infrastructure in the surrounding area. Accessibility is one key issue. Publicity of this CG project seems not done so well too compared to EM. Perhaps because of publicity, people tend to have much confidence in EM. Also, a friend of mind raise a valid point that Klang people rarely stay in service apartment - so how well will the high rise (on top of the KSL Mall 2) in CG be selling? Saleability of the high rise units will be one of the critical success factors of CG township.

Sigh... how to choose???

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QUOTE(samkps @ Jun 13 2014, 12:26 PM)
just receive call from ew,spa signing for cradleton is nex saturday...gosh ,no chance to consider tenderfields? cry.gif

only Maybank and alliance bank have 36 months 0%.  doh.gif any agent can contact me fast credit card approval fromthese 2 banks? icon_question.gif
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36 mths 0%??? Can pls clarify a bit?
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post Jun 14 2014, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(PrincessCG @ Jun 14 2014, 01:16 PM)
All the loan documents has been submmited to bankers except the loan application form. Asked banker to come out & pass to me this weekend but they said next week.....
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Normally the loan application is submitted together with other required docs for assessment. How come this could happen? Wondering which bank has this unique loan assessment process...
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post Jun 14 2014, 03:20 PM

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All bank should have their standard turnaround time. If the banker takes unacceptably long period to process your loan application, write in to bank negara and cc to the bank mgmt to complaint.
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post Jun 14 2014, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(robert82 @ Jun 14 2014, 03:26 PM)
out of curiosity, what those bankers get for getting our loan approved and signed?
Some of them really put in effort into their work, follow up and even if I called them after 6 months of loan offer signing, they still follow up case for me.

So, what's the monetary rewards they got ah? Can't be so good service if their remuneration isn't that good ?
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The bankers need to achieve their sales KPI in order to get fat bonus
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post Jun 16 2014, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(tengster @ Jun 16 2014, 12:54 PM)
It should be automated. They will also ask you to sign the developer's Offer To Purchase letter. (OTP)....the 3& should be stated clearly there. If not clear, dont sign first ...ask first...

As of now, I was told 3% early bird has been removed to new buyers, etc.
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As it said "early bird discount", it should be given to early purchasers not the latecomers.
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post Jun 16 2014, 10:12 PM

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The bankers are smart, they will call up the developer or through other ways to find out the discount. It's a matter of how prudent they want.
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QUOTE(Prop321 @ Jun 16 2014, 10:26 PM)
UOA informed their purchasers that they could not continue with 5% rebate for their Southbank and Sentul Point project because Housing Ministry found out. Hence they withdraw the rebate and adjusted the SnP price downward. The impact is buyers pay more upfront now.
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It should have nothing to do with the Housing Ministry. The Bank Negara ruling is sth that the bank MUST follow strictly. So if the bank is awared of the rebate / discount but still grant the loan based on gross selling price, it is taking risk on its own. The bank won't be able to justify (when being audited) that being a panel it doesn't know about the discount.
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post Jun 17 2014, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(tengster @ Jun 17 2014, 08:45 AM)
Revised layout is already out. You may ask them to show you on iPad slide.
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Is it the finalized layout? Finalized for all types - cluster and real SMD?
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post Jun 17 2014, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(samkps @ Jun 17 2014, 11:22 AM)
SPA signing is on this weekend. Anyone can share the loan package you get?

I shared mine first..

Bank name: CIMB
Type: Fully flexi
Fees incured: RM 200 opening account and monthly RM 10 maintenance fee.
Rate: BLR - 2.45 (with MRTA), BLR - 2.40 (without MRTA)
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If nit mistaken some banks (I think RHB) can offer a minus spread of 2.50%.
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post Jun 22 2014, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(Director Xavi V @ Jun 22 2014, 03:17 PM)
By then all units might be fully sold out. Haha. Only for 'Show' to existing buyers.
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Earlier was told that will be launched in phases. One before the show units ready and then another one or more launches after the show units ready.
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post Jun 22 2014, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(tengster @ Jun 22 2014, 09:01 PM)
okie...now SPA has been signed 77-88. Lebeh kurang semua dah siap tandatangan....

I need to highlight something here.....At EMSO, there are many unknown characters (or brokers) hang out there to hunt for introducee. Maybe some fall for it. Maybe some dont as they really dont know them.

My question is how do you trust them to put them as introducer? Did they offer you 90-10 or 95-5? Some may even offer to issue postdated cheque. Did you know a cheque only cost RM0.15 cheque per piece. And I can put a STOPPED PAYMENT to the said cheque with a phone call or via internet banking. How gullible one choose to be? There could come a time where the introducer will give you the besok-lusa type of gesture.

If the purchasers get conned by certain characters, he or she will OHHTB.....and this is totally beyond the scope of developers or the lawyers.....

Hope this thing didnt happen.....

OHHTB = Only Have Himself (or Herself) to Blame.
note/disclaimer - The above post is done based on my observation. It is by not mean to pinpoint anyone in the forum or at EMSO...... icon_rolleyes.gif
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You make a good point here. But what will be the normal practice? Merely based on trust without black & white? I'm thinking of perhaps a written undertaking from the referrer to pay to the introducee within a stipulated timeframe. Some may argue that whether it is economically feasible or not to take legal action (so serious?) againat the fellow who fails to honour its words, but it may give some pressure to him / her to take things seriously.
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post Jun 22 2014, 09:29 PM

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I will seriously consider to take legal action to the fellow who treat me like a fool!
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post Jun 22 2014, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(tengster @ Jun 22 2014, 09:34 PM)
Hmmm...what is wrong, man?
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Oops! Perhaps I'm sounded too serious... my point is simple, "yau qin dai ga wen" since this is effortless earned money don't be too greedy until breaching the trust. Else that fellow should be taught a lesson.
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QUOTE(tengster @ Jun 22 2014, 10:07 PM)
You scare me for a sec.... biggrin.gif
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