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 Is the MKA Cert necessary?

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TSynneb25
post Aug 6 2006, 07:18 PM, updated 20y ago

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Is it necessary to get the MKA cert for your pet dog? Sorry but i am very noobish in this.
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post Aug 6 2006, 09:16 PM

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If for pet, not neccesary at all.... unless you think you want to know the grandparents and great grandparents... and you would like to show your dog and breed according to standard quality... if just for pet, no need lah.... but say you are unsure of the breeder, scared he cheat you by selling a mixbreed with a purebreed price, then get one with cert and make sure check with MKA to double check on the registration and microchip number.
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post Aug 6 2006, 10:01 PM

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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Aug 6 2006, 09:16 PM)
If for pet, not neccesary at all.... unless you think you want to know the grandparents and great grandparents... and you would like to show your dog and breed according to standard quality... if just for pet, no need lah.... but say you are unsure of the breeder, scared he cheat you by selling a mixbreed with a purebreed price, then get one with cert and make sure check with MKA to double check on the registration and microchip number.
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kimmie
post Aug 7 2006, 10:51 AM

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ive asked the same questions...and this was what was posted in another forum...shared by skype...

My take ?

This is just a poor excuse given by BYB and puppymiller.

1st you have to understand what is the MKA cert for then, how its being in use by breeder and what is needed.

MKA cert is to provide a lineage of your dog. Any proud breeder will showoff their cert without any hessitant. Reason being why ? it shows where the dog comes from, who is the sire and dam, what is the titled that comes with the sire n dam's lineage. For people who did reading about the lineage of the breed before buying, you will understand more about the kennel and who owns the kennel, in US or UK popular kennel names is well known by all. Health issues and temprement or characteristic of the dogs also trace back through the lineage of a dog from the ancestor therefore the cert is not just a piece of paper. It is suppose to tell you what to expect from your puppy/dog that you are buying. That is what a cert is for. It is also "sort-of" a proof the dam n sire of the dog.

The application for MKA cert : http://www.mka.org.my/faq.htm
When you want to mate a dog upon the mating the breeder is suppose to submit the application form to MKA to announce the "potential" mating from these 2 male & female with the cert can be faxed as well.

After doing this once the b**** have given birth they have a timeline of 1 month to submit a 2nd application form with the picture of the dam with the puppies. Each puppies will then get a microchip from MKA. This microchip must be injected into the puppies before they are sold.

Their cost in doing all these ? From MKA site you can see :

1) Faxing form 1 to MKA with cert (maybe 3 pages) less than RM 1
2) sending official forms or going over to the MKA office for the registration of litter cost about RM 10 - 30 (petrol price increase and parking ler)
3) Microchip RM 17 each
4) Microchip sending by courier service RM 10
5) Send pedigrees by register post RM 5
6) Sending to vet for the microchip injection RM 10 - 20 each.

These are the cost that I can think of at this moment so tell me is all these VERY expensive ? If they are a professional breeder all these are small matter only. Moreever you really think the breeder are absorbing all these cost ? These cost will just be part of the package which is inclusive into the selling price they are selling to you.
Ok, for any breeder to have a good breed dog tagged to their kennel is something that no money can buy. Good breed, healthy and good temprement dog is not easy to breed this comes from many years and months of hardwork. No breeder would want others to get credit from their hardwork unless their dog is a good one.

So for a breeder to tell u its expensive this is totally bull. The cost of a dog is only demanded from where the dog is breed from (which kennel) and who is the sire or dam not by just that piece of paper. I know a ACS breeder who got people on waiting list for his puppies. The piece of paper (mka cert) is just a verification who and what the dog is. Nothing more and nothing less. To show the dog or not is also not just the owner's call. Its all about the dog, how conform the dog is to the standard.

Dogs that is cheap is because they are unable to sell the puppies or they want to sell of the puppies fastest possible.

Tell me as a dog owner is price of the dog more important than the health and temprement of the dog ? If its a yes, then i would say these people never think long run and the over cost of owning a dog.

Things we spend on a dog on a monthly basis if you calculate and x 12 + yearly vet fees and other stuff is already more expensive than the initial purchase price of the dog.

Does initial price of the dog really make that much a difference ?

I have dog that have cert, I also have dog that does not comes with a cert. Make a difference ? umm, on the initial part yes otherwise no. Oh yea, please note that MKA cert also got forgery so best is to know more about a breeder his "status" in the market as well and main thing for me is see the sire and dam of the litter.

BYB and puppymillers will always pretend to be a good breeder and give all sort of excuse eg : cheaper price n all coz to them its just business. Health of the dog they dont care. Dog dies after leaving their place ... u think they care ? FYI, I personally do not have good impression of penang breeders. Have few bad encounters with them as well. No offence to penang lang ok I like penang alot just that not the breeders coz met a few who cross breed and sell the puppies off as pure and alot of puppies having skin problem where the breeder tell me bull shit like its just fur shedding n etc.


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post Aug 7 2006, 10:52 AM

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countless stories of ppl rearing their so call genuie breed pet dog will be disappointed to know they are actually a mix breed dog...the importance of the cert is here to reslove such issue.however the reason for a breeder to raise the price of the dog amount assuming unresonable price is not rite. however that should not be the case for the public to be disgusted with ppl who goes for a certified dog just because they cannot afford a certified dog.in my opnion if u really love animal just go spca and adopt one.pls dont buy a so call genuie breed dog with no cert...a real serious breed lover will want to preserve the lineage and improve the quality of the breed dog choosen


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