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 Wiring 1.5mm, 2.5mm, 4mm., How to choose?

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weikee
post May 20 2014, 12:14 AM

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What on the spec does not take account of bending, length and copper ,impurity. Now copper have more impurity, some due to recycled of copper, some due to cost cutting. 2.5mm can handle even 25Amps no problem but for short distance.

Short distance expose like our extension can handle larger load, but don't abuse and run it too long. Like someone say, try run 2000watt Vacuum cleaner with extension you will be able feel the heat.

We use UK wiring specification, below link can us as some basic guideline. (Does not take account into copper wires quality)

http://www.elecsa.co.uk/Technical-Library/...-of-Cables.aspx
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post May 20 2014, 09:16 AM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ May 20 2014, 08:59 AM)
this came out from my induction hob rated 6.4kw
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my oven rated 3.6kw, the wires looks like ordinary ones
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And It use double wires to support the load. Is your incoming have the same thickness of the combined wires?
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post May 20 2014, 09:20 AM

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3.6KW is at the threshold of the normal socket can support. If you not install it correctly and having a loose end you may end up blowing or burning the socket.


If you search, few users having burned socket after using it for sometime. One recent example

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=3191958
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post May 20 2014, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ May 20 2014, 09:53 AM)
the reason why the oven came with, I suspect the smaller 2.5mm wires, is because the oven cannot actually use 3.6kw at any one time. these ovens have several separate elements like top heat, bottom heat etc
and you can only use a combination of it, not all. unfortunately the manufacturer always quote "maximum power" but not "operating loads"
see the pic below -
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the hob, Im more worried about.smile.gif
even though it is rated 6.4kw, that is with all 3 burners going full blast which rarely happens.
further more, these hobs are unlike kettles, they dont continuously use power. they turn on and off and on again to maintain that temperature
you can see this with those ceramic cooktop, they glow on and off periodically
still i will have to see that it gets a thicker wire during installation

btw usually what size are those wires inside the 3 pin socket to the MCB?
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For safety reason is better over spec wires than assume is not using max load. For just few hundred saving, and risk having house burn down is not worth it. You will not know how much it will drawn unless constantly monitor the current intake. You may know and use only one burner at a time, but what happen your maid, friend, or relative came over and use? switch all 3 burner, even at 2/3 of the power you draining 4+kw

If developer didn't skim of wires, it will give 2.5mm, but do take note china no brand 2.5mm wires quality are lousy.
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post May 20 2014, 11:03 AM

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Everything you do a Chinese style cooking, TNB will be very happy.
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post May 20 2014, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ May 20 2014, 11:00 AM)
3 rings nia  sweat.gif

do i need something like this  laugh.gif
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6000watt, you need to have an industrial grade.

 

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