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Tentris
post Nov 4 2008, 04:41 PM

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I'm a bit confused about the various tournament formats?

Can someone help explain the difference?

- sealed deck?
- constructed?
- draft?
- block constructed?
etc
etc
etc

I'm really interested in tournament play, and will be looking to start building a few decks to test with before i find a suitable style i really like and just focus on that.

Besides the official Upper Deck website, where else can i go to get advice on how to start?


Added on November 4, 2008, 5:12 pmFound an awesome UDE resource that answers most (but not all) of my questions.

http://entertainment.upperdeck.com/communi...29/default.aspx

Still confused about the difference between the various tournament formats.

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post Nov 4 2008, 08:26 PM

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I was in Comic's Corner Bangsar today (the lady in charge there is DAMN HOT btw), and bought a DoW Starter (RM57) and booster box (RM300). Will be going through it tonight.

Saw a notice, the next qualifier tournament is 15 November at CC Subang Jaya. I'll be there!

btw, what does Block Constructed mean?

gg to me, the list of allowed expansions EXCLUDES DoW.

got to buy another box if i want to play in the tournament. anybody want to share 1 box?
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post Nov 5 2008, 09:00 AM

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Only 2 Slashdance loot cards from my DoW box, but a nice mix of epics which i'm pretty happy about.

From the looks of it, Shammy, Mage and Pall cards were particular powerful from the cards i received.

Questions:

1. How do i sell off/trade the rest of the cards i dont need?
2. I'm confused about "Resources" -- every turn i put down 1 card to be a resource. Does 1 card resource = 1 resource?

If 1 card = 1 resource = 1 resource per turn, therefore, it'll be at least 5-8 turns before i start playing some of the really powerful cards in the deck. Is my understand correct?
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post Nov 5 2008, 09:46 AM

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Saturday, what times usually?


Added on November 5, 2008, 11:10 amSome nice basic strategies to be found here.

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/insider/11/...building101.xml

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post Nov 5 2008, 02:46 PM

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i will definitely come by this weekend then. spend a few hours there, see if i can get a few games in.
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post Nov 6 2008, 10:10 AM

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During the sealed pack tournament for DoW at TB, are we allowed to trade cards from our deck with others.

17 x 5 boosters = 85 cards only + 1 hero card = 86 card pool to build a deck with.

*2 cards from the booster care probably not going to be used, 1 hero + 1 UDE point card in each booster.

its going to be a struggle to come up with 60 playable cards for a deck from 86 card pool if trades are not allowed.

or is there a smaller deck size to be used during this tournament? 32 cards? 40 cards?


Added on November 6, 2008, 10:18 amOfficial rules answer can be found here:

http://entertainment.upperdeck.com/wow/en/...ournamentrules/

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post Nov 6 2008, 03:08 PM

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RM85 for 5 boosters is a bit over regular retail.

1 booster = RM17

over-the-counter, 1 booster is RM13, so there seems to bit of a disconnect here.

Unless the info was wrong and its RM85 for 6 boosters...

if it was my shop, i would sell at cost price (maybe RM10? each booster), because it is a promotional event, and getting a good number of ppl into the shop (who might buy other stuff) is always a good thing.

but, oh well, i'll turn up anyways. and probably play too. i need to get my feet wet in a tournament sometime, and all this reading and theorycrafting will get me no where if i dont put it into practice.


Added on November 6, 2008, 3:11 pmbtw, i notice that some of the players at worlds have deck builders build their decks for them...

do we have anyone here in Malaysia that does the same? build decks, then sell either at auction or at the shops?


Added on November 6, 2008, 3:14 pmAwesome resource here.

http://www.wowtcgdb.com

Using it to build some decks for next week's RQ.

wtb playtester pst cbf wow'ing until xpac anyways.

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post Nov 6 2008, 04:15 PM

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tbh, after doing some research, there is no real good reason for anyone interested in tournament play to buy booster packs/boxes.

its far far more economical and time efficient to buy individual cards that you specifically want.

You build the deck you want, you get it all at once, and you pay a (relatively) cheaper price than having to plow through boosters to find the cards you need (and go through the hassle of trading away/selling the ones you dont).
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post Nov 7 2008, 07:44 AM

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one thing i dont understand... why isn't DoW eligible for tournament play yet? Like the upcoming realm qualifiers, cant use DoW cards at all.
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post Nov 10 2008, 09:01 AM

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Obliveron and Form of the Serpent.

How to make them work together?

The way i understand it, a freshly dropped FotS has no ATK, but it builds up ATK every turn the hero attacks.

Can this scenario work:

turn 3, play FotS.
turn 4, ATK opponent hero with FotS Obliveron, no dmg, +1ATK
(obviously, find a way to exhaust all protectors before attacking)
turn 5, ATK opponent hero with FotS Obliveron, 1 dmg, +2ATK
turn 6, ATK opponent hero with FotS Obliveron, 2 dmg, +3ATK
etc etc

I was thinking an Obliveron deck with many means to get rid or exhaust opposing allies would be quite powerful.

Drop a Doom Blossom on the opposing hero turn 1 to start the beatdown, etc.

What do you think?


Added on November 10, 2008, 9:42 amOh my. Deadly.

http://www.wowtcg.eu/articles.php

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However, something many players seem to forget is how the triggered power actually works. To explain Form of the Serpent, I’m first going to note something about cat form. If your hero attacks while in cat form, he will have +1 attack while attacking. Now, if the opponent destroys cat form in the middle of the combat, the hero will lose this power. This because cat form has a continuous modifier of “+1 attack while attacking”, it never triggers, it’s always active.
Form of the Serpent, on the other hand, has a triggered power “when your hero attacks”. When it triggers, it first adds a counter and then counts the number of counters. The hero will have +1 attack for each counter, during that combat. It then does not recounts the counters for that combat. Which means that any change in counters does not affect that +X attack. Consequentially, if you would remove all those counters to deal damage to an ally, in the middle of the combat, your hero will STILL have that very same +X attack for that combat, even though no counters are left on Form of the Serpent.
That could be used to kill a protector during the attack window, before it can protect, while still keeping all that attack. This is a trick used by the top Serpent players, did you know it?


Official tournament ruling.

That means, a FotS hero can start the beat down immediately from T4 onwards.

Drop FotS during your opponent's EOT turn 3, turn 4 start whacking for +1 ATK already.

This also means, imagine turn 8.

FotS hero swings opposing hero for 5. Remove poison counters, hit for another 5. = 10dmg.

gg if some of the other cheapo allies get involved and/or if something like Doom Blossom is already ticking from Turn 1.

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post Nov 10 2008, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(XenoFr3ak @ Nov 10 2008, 01:20 PM)
U can drop FoTS on turn 3 and start smacking on tt same turn itself, u dun have to wait till turn 4.
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Added on November 10, 2008, 1:28 pmbtw, a sweet alternative to Starcity.

http://www.mtgmintcard.com

Super fast shipping, from HK so its quite cheap shipping wise.

Price wise, comparable with Starcity, and maybe a bit cheaper once you factor in shipping.

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post Nov 10 2008, 02:15 PM

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Yeah, i ordered a crap load of cards from them on Friday. This morning, they were all on my desk already, nicely packed and all NM/M.


Added on November 10, 2008, 2:37 pmEh, btw, how to get rid of Myriam Starcaller?

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Untargetable
Myriam deals 5 arcane damage to target hero.


Is she targetable when exhausted?

Or need to burn her with AOE affects?

e.g.

Death Shock
QUOTE
Traitor Hero Required
Your hero deals 1 nature damage to target ally for each damage on your hero.


or can use Ally kill card?

Storm Shock
QUOTE
Target Opponent chooses a hero or ally in his party, and your hero deals 4 nature damage to it.


Not sure about Storm Shock because the the ability requires targetting?

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post Nov 10 2008, 03:19 PM

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So even when she is exhausted, Myriam still cant be targeted?

OP man. wtf.
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post Nov 10 2008, 08:16 PM

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Eh, any of you guys interested in some pre-RQ warmup rounds?

Thursday/Friday night?
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post Nov 11 2008, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(yitjuan @ Nov 11 2008, 10:04 AM)
you can attack into her. Attacking does not target. Most players use Brok Bloodcaller to hit into her.
Oh that means Allies and Heroes can attack her directly?

Just abilities that say "target" all cannot?

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post Nov 11 2008, 11:31 AM

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btw, WTB Aegis of the Vindicator x 3, paying RM25 or nearest offer each.

/pst
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post Nov 11 2008, 12:48 PM

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I maybe got 1 Quakelord. I check later.


Added on November 11, 2008, 12:51 pmbtw, how does war stomp work in the chain?

Scenario:

My ally attacks the opposing hero, but chooses to warstomp the Protector on the way in.

Effect:

Protector is exhausted, cannot protect the hero, hero takes dmg from my ally.

Can it work like this?

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post Nov 12 2008, 05:31 PM

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Anyone who lives in PJ or Kota Damansara area want to get together for some practice rounds? Can meet somewhere nearby for a few games, drinks and laughs.
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post Nov 13 2008, 01:11 PM

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Posted this on the WoW forums, trying to get more TCG players.

Having experienced this game first-hand, i can say that i'm hooked. Its taken some of the best elements of WoW online MMO (pvp, raiding fun, and the search for ever better "loot") and put it into a card game.

Be warned, this is not a game for the faint hearted, or the faint walleted. smile.gif

With that introduction, this guide seeks to do 2 things:

1. Essential Links --> to all the online resources you need to get started.
2. FAQ (i'll add the FAQ in a day or two)

I hope to make this a "living" document. So if you want to add a link, or add a good question (and answer) to the FAQ, just leave a reply below.

Essential Links

1. Official Upper Deck Entertainment (UDE) WoW TCG website: Link
2. Official Rules and Tournament Play Policies (very important if you plan to a TCG tournament player): Link
3. Official WoW TCG Forums: Link
4. Unofficial Low Yat WoW TCG Forum (where you can find other Malaysian players): Link
5. "WoW TCG Google" - find every single card in this database: Link

*ps. the game is not as complicated as the rules make it sound. Just like WoW MMO, easy to play, but damn hard to MASTER.

Where to Buy

1. Local Store: Toybox (Link) <-- holds weekly tournaments
2. Local Store: Comic's Corner (Link) <-- has regular WoW TCG events
3. Online Store: StarCity (Link) <-- recommended because of their large collection, and because you can purchase single cards from them to complete a deck, or even buy a full deck from scratch
3. Online Store: MTG Mint Card (Link) <-- recommended due to their shipping from HK, great customer service, and very large collection of cards; a little bit more expensive per card wise than Starcity, but cheaper and faster shipping may compensate for this.

WoW TCG Online

- this is a GREAT way to start playing/learning/experimenting <-- can experiment new deck build ideas before actually investing in the $$$ to buy the cards
- you have access to ALL WoW TCG cards in production as you build your deck (more than 2000+ cards and counting)


Download latest version of MWS (Magic Work Station) first: Link

Then download the patch for WoW TCG: Link
(this is the latest version of 5.1, version 6.0 will be released soon)

Strategy Discussions/Resources/Blogs

WoW TCG Scrub (Link)
WoW TCG Player (Link)
UDE News Archives (Link)
WoW Insider TCG (Link)
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post Nov 13 2008, 04:49 PM

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QUOTE(camlok @ Nov 13 2008, 03:11 PM)
One thing about starcity though, the last time I tried buying something from them (about a year plus ago), they state that they do not accept credit card not issued from US. Not sure if others have this problem or not.
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They accepted my card no problems. Citibank KL. smile.gif

But they will go through a verification process that will take a few days, just like Paypal verification.

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