ada yang cakap patung selain manusia dan haiwan yakni yang tiada roh adalah diharuskan.
haram ke tak?, hukum menyimpan figura Gundam
haram ke tak?, hukum menyimpan figura Gundam
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menyimpan gundam dalam rumah haram ke tak?
ada yang cakap patung selain manusia dan haiwan yakni yang tiada roh adalah diharuskan. |
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May 16 2014, 09:23 AM
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aku ada banyak gundam kat rumah
ditanggung halal, xde masalah. lain la kau sembah gundam tu |
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May 16 2014, 09:25 AM
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boleh simpan tapi jangan muliakan .
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May 16 2014, 09:25 AM
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Lel, ni pun jadi isu haram halal.
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you sembah berhala toward the gundam???
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hmm. a small issue that not need a headline.
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i planing to get the 1/4 neca GODzilla. harom ke tak??
since GOD zilla also is GOD ma...owai. |
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haram.
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nearlee kata harom
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fragile beliefs are fragile
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Simpan aje lah...nak kunyah figura bila dah takde makanan pon tak haram...
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beli kat aku ni ha
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Kebodohan melimpah-limpah..........
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I have a lot of female PVCs in my room and my mom been objecting to them saying malaikat tak masuk etc. So if there is someone who knows this stuff, is it bad to keep them on display?
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Gundam tak harom
Godzilla & kaiju Tak harom.......but..but Ultraman Harom. |
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lolololololololololol
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Wow. Certain muslim nowadays getting extremely paranoid.
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QUOTE(kaizor11 @ May 16 2014, 09:36 AM) i dunno these stuffsto me i just keep it simple n safe, if its a toy then it will be in a toy box then its fine to me. But if just put as display usually i wont keep one. grey area lar this one, same like playing music n etc. when we all die then we know lah This post has been edited by marumaru: May 16 2014, 09:40 AM |
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haram lar..
boleh kasi aku? |
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Hex Kira Yamato.
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Dont forget the altar, candy candles and josh sticks.
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parah macam ini.. kalau kumpul gundam pon nak was-was... pasal gundam pon nak halal/harom...
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kalau patung tu tak tutup aurat, haram tak ?
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“Sesungguhnya malaikat tidak akan masuk ke sebuah rumah yang di dalamnya ada patung”. (Riwayat Bukhari dan Muslim)
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Menurut Dr.Yusuf Al-Qardawi dalam kitabnya Halal dan Haram Menurut Perspektif Islam mengatakan bahawa :
Diharamkannya patung adalah demi menjaga kemurnian tauhid, supaya mereka tidak sama dengan kaum musyrik yang membuat patung sendiri kemudian disembah, bahkan dengan sangat khusyuknya. Walaupun ini bukanlah satu-satunya alasan. Dilihat dari dimensi pematung, pematung menjadi angkuh, seolah-olahnya dia boleh menciptakan sesuatu yang semula tidak ada atau mencipta makhluk hidup dari benda mati. Diriwayatkan ada seorang pematung yang sudah bertahun-tahun membuat sebuah patung. Setelah selesai, dia begitu terpesona dan tergila-gila dengan lekuk-lekuk tubuh patungnya. Dengan angkuhnya dia mengajak patungnya bercakap : “Marilah bercakap. Mari bercakap!!! Oleh itulah, Rasulullah saw bersabda : “Sesungguhnya orang-orang yang membuat patung-patung ini kelak di hari kiamat akan diseksa dan dikatakan pada mereka : “Hidupkan apa yang telah kalian ciptakan”. (Riwayat Bukhari dan Muslim) Sepanjang zaman patung merupakan kebanggaan kaum borjuis. Istana dan bilik mereka dipenuhi dengan patung-patung yang beraneka bentuk dan bahan. Islam yang memerangi kemewahan, seperti emas, perak dan kain sutera, juga mengharamkan symbol kemewahan lain yakni patung di rumah orang muslim. |
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Patung hiasan yang diletakkan di rumah orang-orang muslim adalah haram berdasarkan dalil-dalil yang diberikan di atas, sebenarnya banyak lagi dalil yang mengharamkan perbuatan meletakkan patung hiasan di rumah muslim. Begitu juga dengan masalah orang yang meletakkan gambar yang bernyawa di rumah mereka sebagai hiasan, untuk mengetahui perbahasan lanjut mengenai hukum meletakkan gambar hiasa di rumah sila klik di sini. Sebagai orang yang beriman kepada Allah dan Rasulnya, jauhilah dari melakukan perbuatan yang jelas di larang Allah, kerana orang yang tidak melakukan dosa dan melanggar larangan Allah akan diberikan ganjaran yang sangat besar dari Allah.
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QUOTE(bengang13 @ May 16 2014, 09:47 AM) actually rumah aku pun ada like 10 of this at least. siap one Perfect Figure...now all collecting dust, some in campak in the box aje..seriosuly thinking of getting someone to adopt them i dont keep these kind of toys becoz my nephews will throw it n hope it will fly.it happened to my matchbox mosquito WWII plane, after seeing it smashed into pieces i just stop keeping em. |
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I simpan transformers dan gandum aje.
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you superstitous or not? if yes, haram. if not..no problem
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ada cop JAKIN ? ada halal cert? if no pls pm me..i go collect...
if not kena raid by JAIS |
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thread ini umpama orang nak beli baju tapi pergi tanya dekat pasar ikan...
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Kadang2 bodoh tux perlu tunjuk ts.
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QUOTE(shephard86 @ May 16 2014, 09:54 AM) Any figurine yang cukup sifat ( mata, hidung, tangan, kaki ) tak boleh, itu yang aku faham. kalau nak lebih pasti,please refer yang lagi pandai. aku pon ade simpan patung ironman, semua cukup sifat except tak ada hidung. pada pemahaman aku ok la sebab tak ada hidung, aku belasah je display. |
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QUOTE(kaizor11 @ May 16 2014, 09:20 AM) menyimpan gundam dalam rumah haram ke tak? Salam. Sape yang ajar ko hukumnya harus? ada yang cakap patung selain manusia dan haiwan yakni yang tiada roh adalah diharuskan. Apa yang jelas, haram menyimpan figura/patung yang menyerupai makhluk hidup. Maksudnya memiliki sifat zahir makhluk hidup. Harus cuma tertakluk untuk mainan budak kecil sekalipun ia patung manusia atau binatang sebab diorang memang jadikan patung-patung tu sebagai mainan (godek2, peluk2 etc). Tetapi apabila mainan dah menjadi bahan pameran, letak kat rak untuk jadi koleksi dan sebagainya hukumnya adalah haram. Tapi aku kurang jelas hukum untuk figura gundam sebab definisi dan persepsi orang untuk gundam adalah berlainan jadi intepretasi hukum pun berlainan. Bagi yang mengatakan gundam lebih menyerupai fizikal manusia maka ia haram dan vice versa. Apabila terdapat percanggahan pendapat maka ia menghampiri syubhah. Harus bagi orang Islam untuk mengelakkan perkara-perkara syubhah. Apa-apa pun rujuk semula kepada alim ulamak feqah untuk kupasan yang lebih mendalam. Wallahu'alam. p/s: in this case, i assumed that you are a muslim. But if you're not, just ignore all of the yapping above. Thank you. p/p/s: aku pun minat gundam. cheers. |
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QUOTE(geisha @ May 16 2014, 10:05 AM) Any figurine yang cukup sifat ( mata, hidung, tangan, kaki ) tak boleh, itu yang aku faham. kalau nak lebih pasti,please refer yang lagi pandai. aku pon ade simpan patung ironman, semua cukup sifat except tak ada hidung. pada pemahaman aku ok la sebab tak ada hidung, aku belasah je display. kan..gundam bagi aku tk cukup sifat.sbb dia robot so machine mcm kereta n etc.tkde masalah la kot |
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bodo tahap dewa
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QUOTE(red.john @ May 16 2014, 10:10 AM) Salam. Sape yang ajar ko hukumnya harus? kan diharuskan bagi muslim menghiasi tempat tinggal selangi bukan untuk tujuan menunjuk.sila betolkan jika salah.Apa yang jelas, haram menyimpan figura/patung yang menyerupai makhluk hidup. Maksudnya memiliki sifat zahir makhluk hidup. Harus cuma tertakluk untuk mainan budak kecil sekalipun ia patung manusia atau binatang sebab diorang memang jadikan patung-patung tu sebagai mainan (godek2, peluk2 etc). Tetapi apabila mainan dah menjadi bahan pameran, letak kat rak untuk jadi koleksi dan sebagainya hukumnya adalah haram. Tapi aku kurang jelas hukum untuk figura gundam sebab definisi dan persepsi orang untuk gundam adalah berlainan jadi intepretasi hukum pun berlainan. Bagi yang mengatakan gundam lebih menyerupai fizikal manusia maka ia haram dan vice versa. Apabila terdapat percanggahan pendapat maka ia menghampiri syubhah. Harus bagi orang Islam untuk mengelakkan perkara-perkara syubhah. Apa-apa pun rujuk semula kepada alim ulamak feqah untuk kupasan yang lebih mendalam. Wallahu'alam. p/s: in this case, i assumed that you are a muslim. But if you're not, just ignore all of the yapping above. Thank you. p/p/s: aku pun minat gundam. cheers. tu la.kan gundam robot.so tidak dikategori dalam mahlukh hidup.so tkde masalah rasanya This post has been edited by kaizor11: May 16 2014, 10:16 AM |
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apa ketahian ini?
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bodoh nk mampus
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QUOTE(kaizor11 @ May 16 2014, 09:20 AM) menyimpan gundam dalam rumah haram ke tak? When you asked this type of question at LYF, all you get is more confusion. Most are not expert. Some say ok and some say not ok. Even if you ask ustaz, they also give different opinion. They will give hadith to back their claim. One has to know the story behind the hadith because it is related to event.ada yang cakap patung selain manusia dan haiwan yakni yang tiada roh adalah diharuskan. I'm not expert. So, better go to ask imam after Jumaat prayer today. I suggest ask several not just one person. |
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Very super haram.
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bergantung kepada pilot gundam tersebut
kalau pilotnya adalah ali al saachez, maka hukumnya adalah harus |
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kalau dah ada yang khilaf tu, ikut la yang tak boleh.
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tukar hobi
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kalau haram la kan, transformers dlm bentuk orang haram, pastu transform ke bentuk kereta jadi halal... hahahaha
btw aku anggap gundam dn model2 robot ni sbg mesin perang, sama kelas la macam jet pejuang, kereta kebal etc etc.. so xdak hal la.. |
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gundam is a war machine...
same category macam tank, jet and so on... so go figure... This post has been edited by Darkz01: May 16 2014, 11:24 AM |
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ada google boleh search guna buat research wahai TS
http://aizat-ibnmazzuan.blogspot.com/2010/...pan-gunpla.html |
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I dont even have family potraits pictures at home. All simpan already in a box years ago since news break out that malaikat tak masuk rumah kalau ada gambar2..
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ini pun tanya /k?...bangang abadi.
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QUOTE(Zot @ May 16 2014, 11:42 AM) simpan takpe...jangan gantung pamer kat dinding... itu yang tak boleh... anyway TS... aku just berpegang pade 3 benda ni je... ada 3 perkara patung dibolehkan... yang tak haram lah... pertama... tidak membabitkan struktur badan yang sempurna... contoh seperti patung patung yang digunapakai tukang jahit untuk display hasel design rekaan baju... kedua... tidak merujuk kepada manusia ataupun haiwan... contoh seperti pokok, sungai, kenderaan, robot dan seumpamanya... ini dibenarkan Nabi seperti yang diriwayatkan oleh Ibn Abbas yang bermaksud... "Jika anda terpaksa buat lukisan, maka lukiskan gambar pokok, dan apa apa yang tidak mempunyai roh (mutaffaq alaihi) ketiga... incase patung tersebut cukup sifat dan menyerupai manusia atau haiwan... ianya hanya dibolehkan jika dijadikan permainan untuk kanak kanak... contoh seperti patung barbie... kesimpulannya... memiliki patung untuk anak perempuan... atau robot untuk anak lelaki mahupun dewasa adalah diharuskan... asalkan ianya tidak terjurus kepada pembaziran... |
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QUOTE(Darkz01 @ May 16 2014, 11:44 AM) simpan takpe... jangan gantung pamer kat dinding... itu yang tak boleh... anyway TS... aku just berpegang pade 3 benda ni je... ada 3 perkara patung dibolehkan... yang tak haram lah... pertama... tidak membabitkan struktur badan yang sempurna... contoh seperti patung patung yang digunapakai tukang jahit untuk display hasel design rekaan baju... kedua... tidak merujuk kepada manusia ataupun haiwan... contoh seperti pokok, sungai, kenderaan, robot dan seumpamanya... ini dibenarkan Nabi seperti yang diriwayatkan oleh Ibn Abbas yang bermaksud... "Jika anda terpaksa buat lukisan, maka lukiskan gambar pokok, dan apa apa yang tidak mempunyai roh (mutaffaq alaihi) ketiga... incase patung tersebut cukup sifat dan menyerupai manusia atau haiwan... ianya hanya dibolehkan jika dijadikan permainan untuk kanak kanak... contoh seperti patung barbie... kesimpulannya... memiliki patung untuk anak perempuan... atau robot untuk anak lelaki mahupun dewasa adalah diharuskan... asalkan ianya tidak terjurus kepada pembaziran... |
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May 16 2014, 11:55 AM
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May 16 2014, 03:45 PM
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gundam = patung?
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May 16 2014, 03:46 PM
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