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Advice Wanted [WTA] Proposal Ring & Wedding Bands, Please advice me!! Need Help!!

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adrianteo
post Jul 5 2019, 06:59 AM

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was following this thread closely as i am looking for some information/guide on where to start my journey.

Just saw the Enchanted Diamond has file for bankruptcy. I was just looking at their website 2 weeks ago!

That's my concern when buying gems online/not through established brands. Branded bricks and mortar shop may be expensive but somehow it gives that assurance especially after sales.

I have spoken to The Gem Tribe and the lady seems very knowledgeable. Any other recommendation for services similar to TGT? Preferably based in Malaysia.


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post Jul 5 2019, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Jul 5 2019, 03:06 PM)
Unfortunately Enchanted Diamonds is one of the bad apples that gives a bad name for online shopping. But it is certainly consumer's right to choose which company they want to buy from based on their own comfort level and preference.

The Gem Tribe lady used to work for brick-and-mortar chain as a gemologist, and she holds a GIA Graduate Gemologist cert. The other guy I know that has similar cert will be ZCOVA's co-founder ZiYin. I think the founder of House of Diamonds also have similar cert.
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Hi would you mind helping me to look at this diamond?


GIA 2201369818

On top of GIA report, they have this Sarine report that documents every details of the diamond from its raw image (before cut) till its current form.

Along with the ASET images.. And where the inclusions are.

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post Jul 5 2019, 07:32 PM

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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Jul 5 2019, 07:18 PM)
Do you have those images?
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I wish I could take photo but I wasn't allowed to.

I only got their GIA number. Their sarine certificate was shown to me but I am not allowed to take photos...

They have this comparison chart between GIA and AGR or something which they say is based on Sarine AI grading.

The purpose is to sort of make sure GIA grading is consistent.

Not sure how reliable that report is.


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post Jul 6 2019, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Jul 5 2019, 10:50 PM)
First off, I don't really prefer a 35.5 crown pair with a 40.8 pavilion angle. I prefer a 40.6 pavilion angle. I also prefer diamond table that is maxed at 57% because wider table will return more bright light rather than fire. But I have to stress that that is just my personal preference.

Since you are managed to see the diamond yourself and also can see the ASET, then what do you think about it? Just try to compare it with a nice ASET.
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Hi, I changed my decision and opted for this instead. I went down 1 colour but I got a Flawless clarity.

Please give me your view even though I have already paid the deposit.

GIA 5202158121

This is the report they gave me. Its just a print out. Once the ri g is ready they will give me an official Sarine Report.


Thanks bro!!


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post Jul 6 2019, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Jul 6 2019, 02:07 PM)
Interesting.mind sharing who is the vendor?
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Interesting as in good or bad thing? Please tell me if I have to change my mind though I paid the deposit.

It's a Melbourne based jeweller. I can pm you the exact details if you need. Very high reviews from people but I only take reviews with a pinch of salt.

The reason I go is that I can see the owner took time to explain everything and show me all the tools used and the Sarine report. I would have gone to somewhere else if not for this

Just saw your updated post. I got it for aud7.4k but I can still claim gst refund which brings it down to around 6.8k

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post Jul 6 2019, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Jul 6 2019, 03:47 PM)
Interesting as in they are providing ASET images because I thought this is a Malaysia based vendor. 6.8k aussie for the stone alone?
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Ahhh nah its Melbourne based. The price is the diamond and the custom platinum setting. Can tell them how you want to design and they draw it up for you.
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post Jul 6 2019, 07:39 PM

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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Jul 6 2019, 06:01 PM)
The proportions of the diamond is not bad but the overall cut quality is not that good, which is pretty obvious from the hearts and ASET generated.

https://black.briangavindiamonds.com/diamon...?a_aid=myengexp (affiliate link)

Compare that stone to the Black by Brian Gavin Stone. The difference in cut quality is obvious.

Personally I won't sacrifice on cut for better clarity or colour especially when the difference of the colour and clarity in real life is not obvious. But of course, some may want the meaning behind Flawless, so it is certainly okay to go for one if that is your preference.
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Thanks for your view on this. I already placed the booking so I guess I can only hope the performance won't be that bad.

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post Jul 26 2019, 06:56 AM

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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Jul 6 2019, 07:41 PM)
Based on the overall look and proportions, I am sure it will perform well. Most importantly you found some place that you are satisfy with.

Alternatively, If you want options like that with a store front, do consider Jann Paul at Singapore. In-house diamonds are available for viewing.

Good luck and all the best!
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Thanks! Got my sarine light report and to be honest, it's more than what I expected.

Also as you rightly pointed out, the cut may not be perfect hence probably affected the light symmetry rating.

But overall, I am satisfied and the jewellers has been quite transparent.

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post Dec 9 2019, 06:50 AM

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QUOTE(kahwai.andy @ Dec 6 2019, 05:11 PM)
We are a group of Gemologist that so happen to see your recommendation in this forum, and we find your advice really ridiculous especially on crown and pavilion angle pairing , depth performance and your obsession with ASET image. Even you showing your diamond with such an amateur lighting on your FB, even a crystal will look shiny.

AND on your FB this is what you write . "Loose Diamond Advice, Super Ideals"

Loose diamond advice ? Misguiding reader you are an expert ?

If you strongly believe what you said above - put that on your FB - say you are not a Gemologist and not an expert .
 

We created this account to inform reader to not trust such information from you. All advice you give on diamond is WRONG

We are not doing business here, we only want the truth to be out there.

Bye- THE END
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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Dec 9 2019, 12:51 AM)
Well, which stone did you buy?
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Why do you even bother responding to these people?

First of all, abit of background here. I posted here once, to get recommendations and opinions on the stone I was looking at. In the end, I DID NOT go with this brother's recommendation because I prefer to deal with a shop instead of an online seller.

So basically, he is just giving his opinion in a forum where everyone is allowed to.

On the other hand, 2 new chaps just budged in as new accountholders, offer no suggestions or whatsoever to prove what they say about kambingkoh. All I see is just bashing and bashing without any facts or points to counter or even justify their basis.

If you say kambingkoh is bullshiting, provide some pointers la. At least he is giving opinion by justifying how he arrives at those opinions.

Also, for the dude who say he bought the stone based on recommendation here, give more information if you really think you have been misguided. I also want to see whether is there any truth in all these allegations.

Unless of course, these sudden appearance of new accountholders bashing others for no justifications are doing so for their own personal reasons, then it's a different matter.

Everything is out there on the Internet. You don't have to listen to 1 party. You can always verify with other parties. At this point, all these bashings are just so obvious to be targeted at this brother with no basis provided at all.

Quick hint: it looks stupid on you guys who only bash and talk without substance. Back it up with points and facts or even some basic information la.

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