Cert number? Gia?

Yes, it is GIA certified. 5286970410

41.8 pavilion angle is way too steep. I would skip it.

Hi all Sifus, I have been wanting to buy an engagement ring and have read through more info on diamonds that I can handle but still fell very uncertain.

Decide to try asking here and hope to get some advice on my situation.

Being a complete novice few months back, I just walked into a Tiffany & Co and thought I can get the whole thing done there and then until I saw the price and decided to properly reconsider my options lol.

I don't really have a budget so I told the Tiffany lady around RM30k thinking it should be more than enough to get a decent ring since my friends and relatives all got theirs for around RM10k-RM20k.

The salesperson then showed me a few 0.5-0.6ct diamond rings ranging from RM25k-RM35k, and they look exactly like what I imagine a diamond ring should look like and what I think my girlfriend will go for.

But before committing RM30k (total noob didn't realise RM30k only gets you half a carat at Tiffany's), my rational mind kicked in and I decided it might be smart to survey my options first at other jewellery stores.

For some reason (maybe shop lighting or other retail trickery), Tiffany's diamond and the ring always look much bigger and elegant when compare to same carat sizes at other jewellery stores (Poh Kong, De Gem) with similar 6 prongs setting. Sometimes, it even feels like the Tiffany's 0.6ct diamond ring looks about the same size as some 1ct rings sold by other jeweller. Prices at other jewellery shops are about 2 to 3 times cheaper though.

So here is my question: are Tiffany diamond rings worth the price, if not taking brand name into account.

If no (which I keep reading online), can any Sifu guide me on where to get a diamond ring at better value. Because I am seriously leaning towards Tiffany's at the moment despite what my rational side is telling me.

I came across JannPaul when reading this thread where they emphasize mainly on cutting and the various types of scopes to examine. But them being based in Singapore, don't think I will be able to visit them anytime soon. And I don't think I will know how to see even if jewellers were to show me those scopes images (yes, I've watched a bunch of JannPaul's videos on YouTube but only thing I know now is I still don't know enough to properly evaluate a diamond).

What I know I want is:
- The ring band to be made of platinum since my girlfriend prefers platinum over white gold.
- Sizes should be 0.4ct to 1ct (base what I saw at Tiffany's) or slightly bigger as long as it's still subtle and elegant.
- The other Cs grading are less important to me as all look quite similar unless put side to side. So as long as it's not in the bottom half of the grading scale I'll just consider it as good.
- To see the actual physical ring before purchasing.


Sorry for long text. Any advise will be much appreciated. Thank you!

Hi guys, trying to get some opinions on these two diamonds below:-

1) GIA 6311757745

Shape: round
Cut : excellent
Colour : E
Clarity : VS1
Carat Weight : 0.6
Crown angle: 34
Pavillion angle: 40.6

2) GIA 1329579059

Shape: round
Cut : excellent
Colour : F
Clarity : VVS2
Carat Weight : 0.6
Crown angle: 35
Pavillion angle: 40.6

They're both at around the 11k price mark, and both seems to be within the paper specifications (at least crown and pavilion angles) of 34-35 and 40.6 - 40.9. From what little i've gathered from this thread, seems to be good?

The salesperson then showed me a few 0.5-0.6ct diamond rings ranging from RM25k-RM35k, and they look exactly like what I imagine a diamond ring should look like and what I think my girlfriend will go for. -> What is the colour and clarity that was shown to you?

For some reason (maybe shop lighting or other retail trickery), Tiffany's diamond and the ring always look much bigger and elegant when compare to same carat sizes at other jewellery stores (Poh Kong, De Gem) with similar 6 prongs setting. Sometimes, it even feels like the Tiffany's 0.6ct diamond ring looks about the same size as some 1ct rings sold by other jeweller. Prices at other jewellery shops are about 2 to 3 times cheaper though. -> a 0.6ct look like a 1ct can be because the 1ct's cut is not as good and the cutter manage to hide alot of weight in the diamond, making it to reach the 1ct mark, when in reality it only looks like 0.6ct. Another reason could be the difference are in terms of milimeters, and you probably need to have both diamonds to comapare side-by-side to really see the size difference.

So here is my question: are Tiffany diamond rings worth the price, if not taking brand name into account. -> Without branding = No, not worth it. With the brand = Probably yes. Branding does bring the feel good factor IMO. It is an iconic brand afterall.

If no (which I keep reading online), can any Sifu guide me on where to get a diamond ring at better value. Because I am seriously leaning towards Tiffany's at the moment despite what my rational side is telling me. => You can either get online from those sites like WhiteFlash, Brian Gavin Diamonds, High Performance Diamonds, Jann Paul, or you can try local chain stores like Wah Chan, Habib, or local smaller jewellers like ZCOVA, Tailored Jewel, iDo Jewellery, The Gem Tribe, Eumayco, etc. All of them will be cheaper than Tiffany.

Take a look at this: 0.825ct D VS1 (affiliate link), costing RM 24146.20. You still have some budget to set it in a platinum ring locally, which is more than enough.

BUT... You have to ask yourself what makes you want a Tiffany? And you seem to feel that your other half will love a Tiffany too. If yes, then why not.

I came across JannPaul when reading this thread where they emphasize mainly on cutting and the various types of scopes to examine. But them being based in Singapore, don't think I will be able to visit them anytime soon. And I don't think I will know how to see even if jewellers were to show me those scopes images (yes, I've watched a bunch of JannPaul's videos on YouTube but only thing I know now is I still don't know enough to properly evaluate a diamond). -> If you have the time to drop by Singapore, then drop by and they can provide you with some good education. I think it is 2 hours.

What I know I want is:
- The ring band to be made of platinum since my girlfriend prefers platinum over white gold.
- Sizes should be 0.4ct to 1ct (base what I saw at Tiffany's) or slightly bigger as long as it's still subtle and elegant.
- The other Cs grading are less important to me as all look quite similar unless put side to side. So as long as it's not in the bottom half of the grading scale I'll just consider it as good.
- To see the actual physical ring before purchasing. -> This is the most important aspect I guess. So I would suggest you to compare the top tier diamonds in all the brick-and-mortar stores. Most store will have their own signature line. If you are at Degem, try to look at their Lazare diamonds, ForeverMark diamonds, etc. Diamond & Platinum is a subsidiary of Degem, so you can find Forvermark there as well, but not Lazare though. The Lazare I saw before does perform well, but it is still more expensive than what I can find personally. But since you are not into online purchasing, it is certainly one of the better options I can think of.

Good luck and all the best.

E VS1 seems to be a better choice.

F VVS2 is a bit too deep at 62.6%.

But then, we still need some actual pictures. Based on the stones "FAINT" fluorescence, I am guessing it is from Tailored Jewel?

Right on the money. What kind of pictures would tell more about the stones? H&A pics? Will the "faint" fluorescence characteristic make a huge impact on the stones? I would not mind comparable recommendations too.

This post has been edited by 22: Aug 12 2019, 09:32 PM

TJ runs on Virtual Inventory. And usually Virtual Inventory only have actual diamond pics. The one that you can see the diamond's arrows. If you manage to get yourself on the Hearts image, consider it a bonus. I won't mind faint fluorescence as AGS (another famous grading lab) takes faint fluorescence as negligible. I think TJ offers pretty reasonable price already, you can try to search on other websites such as Zcova, Memory Jewellery, and Audrey's to guage on how is the price like. In fact, you can ask for alternatives from all the vendors mentioned above. But if TJ comes with 14 days money back guarantee, including the stone, then it is hard to beat. Try to ask see whether the stone is eligible for money back guarantee or not.

It does, thanks for the tips! Let's see how this goes, when I get the stone in person.

EDIT: photos on the actual diamond pic, the E VS1 is the one at the top, the hearts and arrows on it looks a bit off though...





This post has been edited by 22: Aug 13 2019, 07:53 AM

You ordered it already? Forgot to ask, at this price, does it comes with any ring setting?

Anyway, since you ask for suggestion, I have dropped you a PM.

@kambingkoh sifu, any suggestion budget 4k around 0.3 diamond round cut + white gold ring? I got see few sites but still not paham zzz need advise.

Try Zcova promo? Comes with 18k ring.
https://zcova.com/blog/15/zcova-engagement-...r-your-proposal

Or Tailored Jewel promo? I think comes with 14k ring, not 18k. 14k means lesser gold content, hence cheaper.
https://www.tailoredjewel.com/tjs-picks/diamond-rings/

Or probably can contact The Gem Tribe or iDo Jewellery as well.

I can probably see what Memory Jewellery has to offer but have to wait til I reach home to filter...

This is definitely a good price for 0.4ct!
https://zcova.com/blog/67/0.4ct-engagement-ring-malaysia

Oo. Zcova seem good. Thanks sifu

Mention my name Yang Kin if you are buying from them yea, might get some commission. Thanks.

Ok noted. Finding time go there have a look.

Hi ladies and gents, I just wanted to get your opinion on the below diamond :

GIA Report Number : 2326141257

It's a Princess Cut, 1.03ct, VS2, F Colour. I got a quote for RM17K.

Price seems fair. Just compared it against BlueNile - World's largest online diamond shop. However, do take a look at the price difference between a normal Princess against their signature Astor Ideal, which theoretically should perform better.

Not familiar with Princess, but have a read:
https://www.whiteflash.com/princess-diamond...id=myengringexp (affiliate link)

This post has been edited by kambingkoh: Aug 17 2019, 01:18 AM

Found an occasional value buy from WhiteFlash! For those looking for 0.3ct diamond ring at approximately RM 5000, have a look:

https://www.myengagementringexperience.com/...ion-series.html