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Advice Wanted [WTA] Proposal Ring & Wedding Bands, Please advice me!! Need Help!!

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tzehan_dk
post Apr 16 2019, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Apr 16 2019, 02:19 PM)
Just checked with Brian Gavin Diamonds (affiliate link) that they indeed revised their prices for smaller carat weight (0.18ct - 0.99ct) as they have a new diamond cutting facility as well as due to economy of scale. This is also done do reflect the current market condition.

To add on, for those diamonds that do not make it into their Black category (affiliate link), you can enjoy 8% off (including 3% wire discount) currently by using the discount code APRILDIA19. You can rest assured that those that do no make it into Black does not mean that they are bad diamonds, the difference is actually subtle and they are able to stand strong against any typical virtual inventory diamonds in the mass market.
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Shipping is not free, but try to ask for it nicely. You could possibly get it, but no promises.

Loose diamond import is also tax-free in Malaysia, so you only pay the amount stated on their website and that's it.
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@kambingkoh any KL diamond stores you can recommend for best value and quality?

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post Apr 16 2019, 07:01 PM

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QUOTE(tzehan_dk @ Apr 16 2019, 05:52 PM)
@kambingkoh any KL diamond stores you can recommend for best value and quality?
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If you want slightly more luxury feel with a reasonable price, then ZCOVA is a good choice. Their supplier is really extensive, you will be surprised. What you see on their website is rather limited. I will usually tell people to look at BlueNile, look for anything they like, and check with ZCOVA. As long as it is virtual inventory, then they are highly likely to be able to source it. You can also check on Enchanted Diamonds as well, I have a forumer that has successfully price matched a stone with ZCOVA. They are run by young people with modern thinking so it is quite easy to talk to.

Tailored Jewel is also another good choice. Their prices for smaller diamonds are very competitive, so the larger carats may be the same. I don't think their suppliers are as extensive as ZCOVA though. However, their boss Ethon is extremely good and trustworthy.

iDo Jewellery is another good choice too. She has been in this industry for some time and gain quite a reputation. Her ring designs are nice.

You can try Memory Jewellery also but their supplier is very very limited as far as I know. They have some very good diamonds for smaller carat size, but since your requirement is like 1.38ct, it will be harder.

They are a lot more... Like The Gem Tribe at Cheras, Eumayco at Bangsar South, Audrey's at Shangri-la, Pointers at Subang, etc.

But if you want the best of the best in terms of proportions and workmanship, you have to go with true Hearts and Arrows with tight proportions. If you prefer GIA grading report for some reason, the closet place you can get is from JannPaul in SG. I have seen a lot of people that is satisfied with their diamonds.

Do note these sort of diamonds are typically more expensive than than those diamonds from the KL jewellers I mentioned above, but you do get a set of extensive proof of performance and data for them.

Hope this helps.
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post Apr 16 2019, 11:44 PM

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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Apr 16 2019, 08:02 AM)
Nice. This is certainly worth to consider IMO. The stone I browse is Type2a, I think is the rarest kind of diamond or maybe one of the rarest if they are actually mined from earth.

I believe only lab can tell which is which. And personally I don't think the differences that can be detected by labs will show any differences in real life.
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Do update if you eventually do get something from them.

Now that I am taking a closer look, I take back my comment on the price. While the price might not be all that much different at smaller carats, the scaling of the price is much less steep as the diamond gets bigger. So, the price difference is actually very significant when looking at larger stones.

I don't think lab grown ones can hold much value (as in for reselling) but given it's no different from mined ones, I think they would do for personal use. After all, if the difference is only on lab testing equipment and not to the naked eye, seems like quite a bit of savings there.
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post Apr 17 2019, 12:06 AM

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QUOTE(ub3rg33k @ Apr 16 2019, 11:44 PM)
Do update if you eventually do get something from them.

Now that I am taking a closer look, I take back my comment on the price. While the price might not be all that much different at smaller carats, the scaling of the price is much less steep as the diamond gets bigger. So, the price difference is actually very significant when looking at larger stones.

I don't think lab grown ones can hold much value (as in for reselling) but given it's no different from mined ones, I think they would do for personal use. After all, if the difference is only on lab testing equipment and not to the naked eye, seems like quite a bit of savings there.
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I can tell you now there is no difference if cut quality is the same. Lol. No la, not planning to get any lab grown anytime soon, more interested in diamond stimulant like Amora more. Sparkles better than real diamond as it has higher refractive index I think.

And diamonds do not have any resell value, natural or not. The only company that can provide you lifetime 80% buy back value is probably High Performance Diamonds. Probably the only one in the whole world.

And yes, as it scales up, you will find it much more affordable. The market is getting bigger for lab grown as far as I know. I believe they are here to stay. What worries some jewellers is that melee diamonds have no lab report, so when they purchase melee diamonds in high volume, some lab grown diamonds might be mixed into the parcel and being treated as the real deal.
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post Apr 17 2019, 03:45 PM

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HCA has been updated with extra feature:

https://www.pricescope.com/blog/looks-like-...addition-to-hca
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post Apr 17 2019, 07:16 PM

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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Apr 17 2019, 03:45 PM)
I have tried and got below..

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post Apr 17 2019, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(ZONX @ Apr 17 2019, 07:16 PM)
I have tried and got below..

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k2_wei
post Apr 22 2019, 05:52 PM

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Hi, sifus. Need advice to buy proposal ring for my girl friend. been looking through Zcova dan Audrey website but have no idea where to start and which to pick. prefer 0.3 carat diamond budget around RM3.5k. I would prefer buying it online. thanks for the help.
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post Apr 23 2019, 11:16 AM

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Hi sifu-sifu here,

can you guys help to comment on this diamond? RM4.25k inclusive of setting.

GIA: 6325211350
Blakey
post Apr 23 2019, 03:11 PM

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Hello~ Where can we purchase unique ring box?
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post Apr 24 2019, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(Blakey @ Apr 23 2019, 03:11 PM)
Hello~ Where can we purchase unique ring box?
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Try Ali Express, or maybe TaoBao.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Velvet-Wood...sAbTest=ae803_3

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Yellow-Brow...sAbTest=ae803_3

Personally, I love to have one of this:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Foldable-Ro...sAbTest=ae803_3
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post Apr 24 2019, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(k2_wei @ Apr 22 2019, 05:52 PM)
Hi, sifus. Need advice to buy proposal ring for my girl friend. been looking through Zcova dan Audrey website but have no idea where to start and which to pick. prefer 0.3 carat diamond budget around RM3.5k. I would prefer buying it online. thanks for the help.
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Can consider something like this one:

https://enchanteddiamonds.com/diamonds/view/R30-852138Z09? This one has my preferred proportions. 34.5 crown angle pair with 40.8 pavilion angle is nice. Arrows look pretty decent as well.

Or this one:
https://enchanteddiamonds.com/diamonds/view/R35-498419096? <- But this one is SI1, so you may want to consult the online sales consultant. This win in terms of size. And also it has all the performance images, which honestly, looks not bad.

Anyway, the loose diamond will cost around RM 2400.00. Ring setting from The Gem Tribe starts at RM 1200.00 I think. So if you add together, you might end up at around RM 3600.00. Ring setting from Memory Jewellery starts at RM 1499.00, so you pay end up around RM 3900.00.

The Gem Tribe can also source stones for you, if you prefer to do everything under one roof.

If you want to get either stones that I stated above, then you can either purchase directly from Enchanted Diamonds, and transfer using MoneyMatch - https://transfer.moneymatch.co. Or, you can ask ZCOVA to source for you. They have a price match policy which probably can match the price listed on Enchanted Diamonds. Also, they can also do ring setting as well, so perhaps you let them know your budget, and see whether they can help to package for you and give you a good price or not. I am affiliate with them so if you don't mind, do let them know Yang Kin recommended you. No obligations though.

What about high precision cut diamonds?
For super ideal, you may need to drop the colour down. You can consider Brian Gavin Diamonds, they are giving a little bit of discount for the month of April. You can also try to ask them for free shipping and see if it is possible.
https://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds...?a_aid=myengexp (affiliate link)

Facing-up, you won't be able to see much difference compare to a higher colour diamond, but from the side profile, you may be actually able to see it. Advice from the internet is to set it in a non-white gold setting, so you may consider it.

If you feeling that you can accept more yellowish tint, here you go: https://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds...?a_aid=myengexp (affiliate link). K colour. I could probably set this in a rose gold ring to complement the yellowish tint.

Both for your reference and consideration. Word of advice is that a lot of people still prefer colourless as far as I can see. Some will only go up to G colour. So you may want to consider this point too. If you want colourless range, try to see if it is possible to top up around RM 750: https://zcova.com/blog/15/zcova-engagement-rings-promotion

Let me know if you have any questions.

Thanks.

This post has been edited by kambingkoh: Apr 24 2019, 11:10 AM
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post Apr 24 2019, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(skh1987 @ Apr 23 2019, 11:16 AM)
Hi sifu-sifu here,

can you guys help to comment on this diamond? RM4.25k inclusive of setting.

GIA: 6325211350
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Proportions is good. How about actual video/photo?
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post Apr 24 2019, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Apr 24 2019, 10:45 AM)
That rose box is nice! Thanks thumbup.gif
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post Apr 24 2019, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Apr 24 2019, 11:09 AM)
Proportions is good. How about actual video/photo?
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https://segoma.com/v.aspx?type=iframe&id=ZEPPGSEIKH

This the photo
kambingkoh
post Apr 24 2019, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(skh1987 @ Apr 24 2019, 02:03 PM)
It looks beautiful and will perform above average stones. I kinda like the fat arrows as they tend to return bold sparks, and all of them are reflecting the dark camera lens nicely. won't be a 100% hearts and arrows diamond but its performance will be pretty good. The price does justify it as well. At RM 4250, I will say it is a good buy.
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post Apr 24 2019, 08:00 PM

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I saw this
💎Wah Chan Midvalley is the only outlet to be appointed on selling THE RARE -A Cut above IDEAL CUT GIA Diamonds
💎 A cut Above Ideal Cut- Chosen and Filtered by Wah Chan GIA Diamond grading gratuate Gemologist

Is this similar to whiteflash 's ACA? 🤔
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post Apr 24 2019, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(ZONX @ Apr 24 2019, 08:00 PM)
I saw this
💎Wah Chan Midvalley is the only outlet to be appointed on selling THE RARE -A Cut above IDEAL CUT GIA Diamonds
💎 A cut Above Ideal Cut- Chosen and Filtered by Wah Chan GIA Diamond grading gratuate Gemologist

Is this similar to whiteflash 's ACA? 🤔
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Lol. That is definitely not WF ACA for sure.

To qualify for ACA, you have to have AGS grading report.

I think it is just a convenient way to brand their diamonds ba.

It is really funny for them to say they are appointed. Appointed by who I wonder? Wah Chan HQ? Anyway their diamonds are basically handpicked diamonds from the loose diamond parcels they buy in bulk from suppliers ba.

This post has been edited by kambingkoh: Apr 24 2019, 09:31 PM
ub3rg33k
post Apr 24 2019, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(Blakey @ Apr 23 2019, 03:11 PM)
Hello~ Where can we purchase unique ring box?
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Is it for a surprise proposal?

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post Apr 25 2019, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Apr 24 2019, 02:18 PM)
It looks beautiful and will perform above average stones. I kinda like the fat arrows as they tend to return bold sparks, and all of them are reflecting the dark camera lens nicely. won't be a 100% hearts and arrows diamond but its performance will be pretty good. The price does justify it as well. At RM 4250, I will say it is a good buy.
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Thanks for your advice. I ady purchased it.

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