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lcw5525
post Dec 4 2018, 01:32 AM

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Hi, which diamond would you recommend?

1303564796
1275995636
kambingkoh
post Dec 4 2018, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(jrrsim @ Dec 3 2018, 11:18 PM)
for wedding bands, does anyone know if there is a place we can make our own wedding bands together in penang.. that would be a unique experience.. singapore seems to have it a lot but not so popular in malaysia.

secondly.. what material is good for a wedding band? comfortable, long-lasting, doesnt cause allergic reaction and preferably budget..
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Penang - not sure, KL got one: https://www.materialise-creativity.com/wedd...shop-scrd4.html. Maybe Lucy Walker also got, you can try ask: https://lucywalkerjewellery.com

Material wise - you are looking for hypoallergenic material, so look for platinum or palladium. Or 18k white gold that contains palladium and not nickel. I am not sure what is your budget, but such material won't be the cheapest for wedding bands.
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post Dec 4 2018, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(lcw5525 @ Dec 4 2018, 01:32 AM)
Hi, which diamond would you recommend?

1303564796
1275995636
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Both diamonds will most likely have excellent light return as the crown and pavilion pairing is good.

If their cut precision is similar, I guess I will be taking 1303564796 for the 34 crown angle. And hey, found the actual diamond online:
https://enchanteddiamonds.com/diamonds/view...amond-708065875
No price listed because Enchanted Diamonds cannot sell it at this moment. Either the diamond has been purchased by some other vendors, sold off, or simply lock-down by a particular vendor.
From the looks of it, the diamond looks okay. You can clearly see the arrows. Although has some slight misalignment, but overall looks good. However, the thin arrows will favour smaller sparks (changed from scintillation, updated 8 Dec 18) more instead of returning bold intense sparks that I like personally.

And based on the diamond image, it seems like this is from ZCOVA?

One thing to note is that, despite being the same weight, the 1275995636 is slightly larger based on the dimensions and the calculated ideal weight is 0.50ct, which is better than the 1303564796 which has calculated ideal weight of 0.49ct. But then, I would put emphasis on crown and pavilion angle first.

This post has been edited by kambingkoh: Dec 8 2018, 10:58 AM
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post Dec 4 2018, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Dec 4 2018, 10:02 AM)
Penang - not sure, KL got one: https://www.materialise-creativity.com/wedd...shop-scrd4.html. Maybe Lucy Walker also got, you can try ask: https://lucywalkerjewellery.com

Material wise - you are looking for hypoallergenic material, so look for platinum or palladium. Or 18k white gold that contains palladium and not nickel. I am not sure what is your budget, but such material won't be the cheapest for wedding bands.
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thanks.. budget actually below RM1k for both bands.. altho can go up a bit if the material is better or got a workshop to create a memorable experience

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post Dec 4 2018, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(jrrsim @ Dec 4 2018, 11:35 AM)
thanks.. budget actually below RM1k for both bands.. altho can go up a bit if the material is better or got a workshop to create a memorable experience
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Hmm. Silver might be a more practical choice to stick to the budget.

Have you try contacting http://tribalspiritworkshop.blogspot.com/? But this is in KL.

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post Dec 4 2018, 12:06 PM

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Wedding bands can splurge abit la cause wearing daily.

Diamond ring buying in Tiffany & Co prepare to pay more than double for what you could get in Wah Chan.
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post Dec 4 2018, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(kidmad @ Dec 4 2018, 12:06 PM)
Wedding bands can splurge abit la cause wearing daily.

Diamond ring buying in Tiffany & Co prepare to pay more than double for what you could get in Wah Chan.
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i'm only wearing cos the fiancee requires it.. i have eczema and hate anything that will trap moisture next to my skin.. so most probably will be taking it off and putting it on a lot whenever i wash my hand (which i also do a lot).. so there is a high risk of losing it and prefer something not too pricey..
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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Dec 4 2018, 12:01 PM)
Hmm. Silver might be a more practical choice to stick to the budget.

Have you try contacting http://tribalspiritworkshop.blogspot.com/? But this is in KL.
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not yet but this is the only 1 we could find in malaysia.. but as u said, it's in KL.. so if cannot find, we'll just go the usual route of purchasing at a retailer..
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post Dec 4 2018, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(jrrsim @ Dec 4 2018, 12:18 PM)
not yet but this is the only 1 we could find in malaysia.. but as u said, it's in KL.. so if cannot find, we'll just go the usual route of purchasing at a retailer..
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Alright. Good luck! For budget option, can consider Wah Chan 9k rings. Lesser gold content, hence cheaper. But since you have sensitive skin, you may really want to consider platinum. Feels more solid as well.

Suggest to get something with comfort fit. I also dont really wear ring all the time, will take it off during work, but it is best to keep it somewhere safe if not it will easily misplaced. I have misplaced once and took me awhile to find it.
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post Dec 4 2018, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Dec 4 2018, 12:37 PM)
Alright. Good luck! For budget option, can consider Wah Chan 9k rings. Lesser gold content, hence cheaper. But since you have sensitive skin, you may really want to consider platinum. Feels more solid as well.

Suggest to get something with comfort fit. I also dont really wear ring all the time, will take it off during work, but it is best to keep it somewhere safe if not it will easily misplaced. I have misplaced once and took me awhile to find it.
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thanks for the suggestion! i'll look at 9k gold with no nickel or platinum then..
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post Dec 4 2018, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Dec 4 2018, 10:22 AM)
Both diamonds will most likely have excellent light return as the crown and pavilion pairing is good.

If their cut precision is similar, I guess I will be taking 1303564796 for the 34 crown angle. And hey, found the actual diamond online:
https://enchanteddiamonds.com/diamonds/view...amond-708065875
No price listed because Enchanted Diamonds cannot sell it at this moment. Either the diamond has been purchased by some other vendors, sold off, or simply lock-down by a particular vendor.
From the looks of it, the diamond looks okay. You can clearly see the arrows. Although has some slight misalignment, but overall looks good. However, the thin arrows will favour scintillation more instead of returning bold intense sparks that I like personally.

And based on the diamond image, it seems like this is from ZCOVA?

One thing to note is that, despite being the same weight, the 1275995636 is slightly larger based on the dimensions and the calculated ideal weight is 0.50ct, which is better than the 1303564796 which has calculated ideal weight of 0.49ct. But then, I would put emphasis on crown and pavilion angle first.
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You are right. This is from ZCOVA. You can even recognize it from the Picture notworthy.gif rclxms.gif

I'm considering as they are having the promotion now.
Do you think this is worth the price?
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post Dec 4 2018, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(lcw5525 @ Dec 4 2018, 03:03 PM)
You are right. This is from ZCOVA. You can even recognize it from the Picture notworthy.gif  rclxms.gif

I'm considering as they are having the promotion now.
Do you think this is worth the price?
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Is not hard to recognize. The image is consistent. And it is also 0.5ct E VS2, which is what their promotion is all about.

For one-stop service, their price is good. Can use credit card as well. So if you want something that is good enough, it is worth considering.
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post Dec 4 2018, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Dec 4 2018, 03:30 PM)
Is not hard to recognize. The image is consistent. And it is also 0.5ct E VS2, which is what their promotion is all about.

For one-stop service, their price is good. Can use credit card as well. So if you want something that is good enough, it is worth considering.
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With the same price, possible can get some better?
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post Dec 4 2018, 06:50 PM

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QUOTE(lcw5525 @ Dec 4 2018, 05:38 PM)
With the same price, possible can get some better?
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See if they gave this:
https://www.bluenile.com/diamond-details/LD...atalogView=true
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post Dec 5 2018, 10:52 AM

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For those who intend to purchase diamonds from the US, please note that the exchange rate is starting to drop, which make this time a good time to buy. As of now, USD 1.00 = MYR 4.1946. Might drop further?

https://transfer.moneymatch.co/
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post Dec 7 2018, 02:53 PM

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ZCOVA has finally implemented a referral tracking system, which is possibly the first to do so for an online jeweller in Malaysia.

If interested, read more about them here:
https://www.myengagementringexperience.com/...l-tracking.html
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post Dec 7 2018, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(lcw5525 @ Dec 4 2018, 05:38 PM)
With the same price, possible can get some better?
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I will try to look for some other options tonight if I have the time.

This one:
https://enchanteddiamonds.com/diamonds/view/R54-017680450?

Arrows are slightly thinner to my liking but the price justifies it. Thinner arrows will probably favour smaller sparks over bold sparks. Depending on individual preference, some may like it.

This one:
https://enchanteddiamonds.com/diamonds/view/R54-418Z0848Z?

Arrows look fatter, which is my preference, will return some good old bold sparks. This is why I like this stone. The Hearts and ASET looks better too. And VVS2 brings the clarity group a level higher, makes it more premium.

Price is more expensive. But the ASET looks good for the price. Especially the first one.

Faint fluorescence is able to drive the price down, while highly unlikely to bring negative impact. Even AGS consider GIA faint fluorescence as Negligible. Nonetheless, you can check with the sales consultant,

Enchanted Diamonds are not famous for being the cheapest, but at this price point, it seems fair enough. I am not affiliate with this company and I haven’t buy anything from them before, but they are reliable as other affiliates are promoting it as well. You may want to give them a try. I should probably affiliate with them too as they are one of the companies that provide excellent filtering system when choosing diamonds. Clear cut, nice.

They provide free shipping to Malaysia as far as I know, you won’t be getting free return though.

In any case, you can see if ZCOVA (affiliate link) manage to source for you, this is because they are well-connected to a whole lot of suppliers.

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post Dec 9 2018, 10:04 PM

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Hi sifus, I was recommend these 3 diamond,I'm not sure which one is the best to choose from. Can help?

3305795087
1319216745
5192827764

However, I found one which personally I think is better. I'm not sure.

6302014426

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post Dec 10 2018, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(linuss @ Dec 9 2018, 10:04 PM)
Hi sifus, I was recommend these 3 diamond,I'm not sure which one is the best to choose from. Can help?

3305795087
1319216745
5192827764

However, I found one which personally I think is better. I'm not sure.

6302014426
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GIA-3305795087:
https://enchanteddiamonds.com/diamonds/view...amond-828372374

GIA-1319216745:
https://enchanteddiamonds.com/diamonds/view...amond-4Z2856142

GIA-5192827764:
https://enchanteddiamonds.com/cut-score-cal...cate=5192827764

GIA-6302014426:
https://enchanteddiamonds.com/diamonds/view...larity-Diamond-
813054783

Despite the cut score is a proprietary tool, I find it correlates with WhiteFlash ACA Specs (affiliate link), so I would just use it.

Based on the cut score, diamond 1 & 3 has a lower cut score, this is because they have a 36 crown angle. 36 crown angle is usually too steep, but not necessarily under-perform. This is because it is paired with a shallow pavilion angle of 40.6 degree. But then, these diamonds need further evaluation to determine its actual performance. I won't buy these without an actual diamond image. Better still, get the IdealScope image.

Diamond 2 has a higher cut score, it is penalized probably for the 35.5 degree crown angle, which again, is fine because it is paired with a 40.6 pavilion angle. But then, same thing again, we need the actual diamond image and better still the IdealScope.

The final diamond falls within WhiteFlash ACA Specs (affiliate link), but see below:

yes, you are right, the GIA-6302014426 has better proportions.

however, the cut precision can be better. the arrows size have too much variation in size to my liking.

user posted image

If you want to know what are your other options, let me know your budget and 4Cs requirement.

Here is a piece from ZCOVA (affiliate link) that looks rather decent btw:

user posted image
https://www.gia.edu/report-check?reportno=6302981624
Price: RM 9279.00

Of course, this is just an example. They seem to be listing a lot of 60-pointers within colourless range and at least VS clarity range. You can view the actual image from their diamond search engine (affiliate link).

To add on,
Here is a pretty decent stone to consider!
https://enchanteddiamonds.com/diamonds/view/R63-14124Z974?
Not hearts and arrows, but the ASET looks very good for the price and colour+clarity combo.

This also seems value for money as well:
https://enchanteddiamonds.com/diamonds/view/R60-4758Z9086?
Again, not hearts and arrows, but the ASET looks good. Faint fluorescence is really nothing if you ask me. Even GIA don't really find fluorescence a nuisance. Some even like it, for that extra bluish glow feature under UV light! Nonetheless, check with the sales consultant and see if it has any negative impact. Also remember to get the video for this diamond to make sure it is eye-clean enough.

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