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TSSentinel92
post May 24 2014, 02:23 AM

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QUOTE(ts00000000 @ May 24 2014, 01:52 AM)
[Budget]
RM3k +-(Exclude Monitor)

[Purpose]
Coding/Programming > Gaming >Web-surfing > Watch movies

[Games & softwares that use frequently]
Programming: Visual studio 2013
Gaming: Blade and soul, Dota 2, COD

[Personal preferences]
Due to no air-con and 24hours switch on computer, computer temperature is an issue for me.
Visual studio and game normally will run together~

[Location]
KL

Question:-
1) Most of the recommendation of processor is  i5 4440 processor, is it really not worth to spend $$ to buy a good processor (eg:i7 7440) ? Performance speed is not much different?
2) Most of the recommendation(izit all hmm.gif ) is (Intel + Nvidia), is AMD no so good compare with (Intel + Nvidia)?
3) Is SSD affect frame rate and loading speed while playing game ? worth to spend $$ for it ?
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1) Most of the builds here are for gaming, which is not heavily processor dependant. A Core i5-4440 would suffice. But since you're emphasizing on coding/programming with some lighter games, a better processor would suit you.
2) Not really. We like to push for AMD GPUs, especially the 290. But under 1K budgets it's hard to find a card good as the GTX760.
3) yes, the SSD would help with programmes like programming. Gaming it's mostly help decrease loading time

Here is your build:

CPU-Intel Xeon E3 1230 V3-RM779
Mobo- Gigabyte GA - H87-D3H RM389
Memory-Kingston HyperX Fury 8GB Kit (4GBx2) 1600Mhz RM279
GPU - PALIT GeForce® GTX 750 Ti StormX Dual (2048MB GDDR5) RM569
SSD-Samsung 840 EVO 128GB RM300
HDD-1TB WD Blue RM 189
PSU- Seasonic M12-II 620W RM359
ODD-liteon 24x DVD/RW-RM59
Casing - Corsair Spec - 03 RM205
Cooling - Cooler Master TCP 612 CPU Cooler RM189

Total: RM3317.

You may get a cheaper Cooler Master heatsink if you feel you want to cut back, or get the Seasonic S12-II 620W @ RM299 as well. Stick to this PSU so in the future you can upgrade your graphics without much hassle.

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post May 24 2014, 02:54 AM

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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 24 2014, 02:23 AM)
1) Most of the builds here are for gaming, which is not heavily processor dependant. A Core i5-4440 would suffice. But since you're emphasizing on coding/programming with some lighter games, a better processor would suit you.
2) Not really. We like to push for AMD GPUs, especially the 290. But under 1K budgets it's hard to find a card good as the GTX760.
3) yes, the SSD would help with programmes like programming. Gaming it's mostly help decrease loading time

Here is your build:

CPU-Intel Xeon E3 1230 V3-RM779
Mobo- Gigabyte GA - H87-D3H RM389
Memory-Kingston HyperX Fury 8GB Kit (4GBx2) 1600Mhz RM279
GPU - PALIT GeForce® GTX 750 Ti StormX Dual (2048MB GDDR5) RM569
SSD-Samsung 840 EVO 128GB RM300
HDD-1TB WD Blue RM 189
PSU- Seasonic M12-II 620W RM359
ODD-liteon 24x DVD/RW-RM59
Casing - Corsair Spec - 03 RM205
Cooling - Cooler Master TCP 612 CPU Cooler RM189

Total: RM3317.

You may get a cheaper Cooler Master heatsink if you feel you want to cut back, or get the Seasonic S12-II 620W @ RM299 as well. Stick to this PSU so in the future you can upgrade your graphics without much hassle.
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need cooler ar? my xeon so far not even reaching 60C tongue.gif
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post May 24 2014, 03:01 AM

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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 24 2014, 02:23 AM)
1) Most of the builds here are for gaming, which is not heavily processor dependant. A Core i5-4440 would suffice. But since you're emphasizing on coding/programming with some lighter games, a better processor would suit you.
2) Not really. We like to push for AMD GPUs, especially the 290. But under 1K budgets it's hard to find a card good as the GTX760.
3) yes, the SSD would help with programmes like programming. Gaming it's mostly help decrease loading time

Here is your build:

CPU-Intel Xeon E3 1230 V3-RM779
Mobo- Gigabyte GA - H87-D3H RM389
Memory-Kingston HyperX Fury 8GB Kit (4GBx2) 1600Mhz RM279
GPU - PALIT GeForce® GTX 750 Ti StormX Dual (2048MB GDDR5) RM569
SSD-Samsung 840 EVO 128GB RM300
HDD-1TB WD Blue RM 189
PSU- Seasonic M12-II 620W RM359
ODD-liteon 24x DVD/RW-RM59
Casing - Corsair Spec - 03 RM205
Cooling - Cooler Master TCP 612 CPU Cooler RM189

Total: RM3317.

You may get a cheaper Cooler Master heatsink if you feel you want to cut back, or get the Seasonic S12-II 620W @ RM299 as well. Stick to this PSU so in the future you can upgrade your graphics without much hassle.
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notworthy.gif Thanks for your answer and recommendation!! I have few more question need your advice
Question:-
1) I can't find the PALIT GeForce® GTX 750 Ti StormX Dual (2048MB GDDR5), i only can find MSI GTX750 TI twin frozr oc and others GTX 750TI (viewnet list).
is it all the GTX 750 TI have almost same performance ? and what is the different between them ?
2) Due to over budget, can I remove the SSD-Samsung 840 EVO 128GB RM300? the performance will drop alot ? if yes, I spend the extra RM 300 to buy it~
3) you mention get the seasonic s12-II 620W @ RM299, is it offer ? you listed down the model seasonic s12-II 620W with RM359

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QUOTE(cle900706 @ May 24 2014, 02:54 AM)
need cooler ar? my xeon so far not even reaching 60C tongue.gif
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He did mention 24/7 no air con so why not? Haha.

QUOTE(ts00000000 @ May 24 2014, 03:01 AM)
notworthy.gif Thanks for your answer and recommendation!! I have few more question need your advice
Question:-
1) I can't find the PALIT GeForce® GTX 750 Ti StormX Dual (2048MB GDDR5), i only can find MSI GTX750 TI twin frozr oc and others GTX 750TI  (viewnet list).
is it all the GTX 750 TI have almost same performance ? and what is the different between them ?
2) Due to over budget, can I remove the SSD-Samsung 840 EVO 128GB RM300? the performance will drop alot ? if yes, I spend the extra RM 300 to buy it~
3) you mention get the seasonic s12-II 620W @ RM299, is it offer ? you listed down the model seasonic s12-II 620W with RM359
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No worries. Fire away any enquiries.

1) The price lists here is based on items sold by a LYN Vendor named Linglong. Of course if you feel better getting it from a store like viewnet then by all means go ahead. But there will be price and model differences. Sorry for not pointing it out earlier. He has the Palit StormX Dual.

But please note that buying it as a whole would result in cheaper prices anyways whether be it at viewnet or All IT or any lowyat network vendor, especially if paid in cash. smile.gif

2) Yes you may, but once you have the ability to get the SSD please do. It'll help with everyday computing.

3) The original PSU I recommended was the M12-II, which is modular and more neater when building a PC. The S12-II isn't, which is why it's cheaper at Rm299.

Hope I answered your queries. smile.gif
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post May 24 2014, 03:55 AM

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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 24 2014, 03:20 AM)
He did mention 24/7 no air con so why not? Haha.
No worries. Fire away any enquiries.

1) The price lists here is based on items sold by a LYN Vendor named Linglong. Of course if you feel better getting it from a store like viewnet then by all means go ahead. But there will be price and model differences. Sorry for not pointing it out earlier. He has the Palit StormX Dual.

But please note that buying it as a whole would result in cheaper prices anyways whether be it at viewnet or All IT or any lowyat network vendor, especially if paid in cash. smile.gif

2) Yes you may, but once you have the ability to get the SSD please do. It'll help with everyday computing.

3) The original PSU I recommended was the M12-II, which is modular and more neater when building a PC. The S12-II isn't, which is why it's cheaper at Rm299.

Hope I answered your queries. smile.gif
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Again, thanks for your answer!!
1) If I want to buy from viewnet and viewnet have not the model that you recommend, is it I can G-BYTE GTX750 TI oc 2GB D5 128 RM589 instead of Palit StormX Dual? Actually what is the different between them (Same GTX750 TI Model but with different name). Can you briefly explain the differential ?
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QUOTE(ts00000000 @ May 24 2014, 03:55 AM)
Again, thanks for your answer!!
1) If I want to buy from viewnet and viewnet have not the model that you recommend, is it I can G-BYTE GTX750 TI oc 2GB D5 128 RM589 instead of Palit StormX Dual? Actually what is the different between them (Same GTX750 TI Model but with different name). Can you briefly explain the differential ?
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The Palit Storm X Dual as far as i know is the highest clocked and hence fastest version of the GTX750TI @1202Mhz Clock Speed/6Ghz memory, if i am not mistakan thus far.

The Gigabyte is at 1033Mhz Clock Speed/5.4Ghz memory, although you'll still be able to OC later, since its not as highly overclocked as the Palit.

I have attached a chart below. Guru3D is a pain by not allowing to attach images. This is a gaming comparison, using Battlefield 4.

Both are the same card. Just that Palit is the ffaster version.

If you can you can get your whole PC from Viewnet but get the Palit from linglong. Or see if other lowyat mall sellers have it, or get your entire rig from linglong himself all together too.

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post May 24 2014, 04:37 AM

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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 24 2014, 04:16 AM)
The Palit Storm X Dual as far as i know is the highest clocked and hence fastest version of the GTX750TI @1202Mhz Clock Speed/6Ghz memory, if i am not mistakan thus far.

The Gigabyte is at 1033Mhz Clock Speed/5.4Ghz memory, although you'll still be able to OC later, since its not as highly overclocked as the Palit.

I have attached a chart below. Guru3D is a pain by not allowing to attach images. This is a gaming comparison, using Battlefield 4.

Both are the same card. Just that Palit is the ffaster version.

If you can you can get your whole PC from Viewnet but get the Palit from linglong. Or see if other lowyat mall sellers have it, or get your entire rig from linglong himself all together too.
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I got it! Thats mean all the brand that you know for model GTX750TI, the Pilit storm X dual is the most faster ~ I will try to get it! Thanks for your advise and the chart!!!

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QUOTE(ts00000000 @ May 24 2014, 04:37 AM)
I got it! Thats mean all the brand that you know for model GTX750TI, the Pilit storm X dual is the most faster ~ I will try to get it! Thanks for your advise and the chart!!!
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Yeah, that pretty much works the same for all graphics cards. Certain third party models would be the fastest amongst the batch.

nVidia or AMD would release a model and third party manufacturers like ASUS, Gigabyte, MSI, HIS, Club 3D would out their own spin on it. There is also brand specific third party manufacturers like Zotac, Palit, EVGA, Gainward, Galaxy (All for nVidia only) or Sapphire, Powercolor and XFX (AMD only).

Gives for interesting comparisons and competition. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 24 2014, 04:53 AM)
Yeah, that pretty much works the same for all graphics cards.  Certain third party models would be the fastest amongst the batch.

nVidia or AMD would release a model and third party manufacturers like ASUS, Gigabyte, MSI, HIS, Club 3D would out their own spin on it. There is also brand specific third party manufacturers like Zotac, Palit, EVGA, Gainward, Galaxy (All for nVidia only) or Sapphire, Powercolor and XFX (AMD only).

Gives for interesting comparisons and competition.  thumbup.gif
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Is it have any website to get the performance comparison for different graphic card? Like the chart that you uploaded.
For GTX75TI both Gigabyte and Palit have the almost same price, is it any reason that someone choose Gigabyte instead of Palit?
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QUOTE(ts00000000 @ May 24 2014, 11:02 AM)
Is it have any website to get the performance comparison for different graphic card? Like the chart that you uploaded.
For GTX75TI both Gigabyte and Palit have the almost same price, is it any reason that someone choose Gigabyte instead of Palit?
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Dude that one you have to go search yourself. Websites like eteknix, guru3D, anandtech, techpowerup, and a ton of websites does do reviews for GPUs, with the occasional comparison like in that chart I showed up, but that's pretty hard to find. You'll have to slowly go through the sites one by one, and Google reviews for both cards you wanna compare.

Any reason? Brand preferences. Some people just like gigabyte. Or availability, some retailers.don't carry Palit,which you've seen first hand.
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 24 2014, 11:13 AM)
Dude that one you have to go search yourself. Websites like eteknix, guru3D, anandtech, techpowerup, and a ton of websites does do reviews for GPUs, with the occasional comparison like in that chart I showed up, but that's pretty hard to find. You'll have to slowly go through the sites one by one, and Google reviews for both cards you wanna compare.

Any reason? Brand preferences. Some people just like gigabyte. Or availability, some retailers.don't carry Palit,which you've seen first hand.
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Yea, that is those website I needed,
I will try to find the Pilit GTX750Ti, already ask for best price from linglong brows.gif
Btw, nvidia not a brand?
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QUOTE(ts00000000 @ May 24 2014, 11:31 AM)
Yea, that is those website I needed,
I will try to find the Pilit GTX750Ti, already ask for best price from linglong  brows.gif
Btw, nvidia not a brand?
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Good luck! Hopefully it's on stock. Haha.

But what do you mean by is nvidia a brand? Of course it is. So is AMD. Aren't they all brands? Your GTX750TI is designed by nVidia. rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 24 2014, 11:42 AM)
Good luck! Hopefully it's on stock. Haha.

But what do you mean by is nvidia a brand? Of course it is. So is AMD. Aren't they all brands? Your GTX750TI is designed by nVidia. rclxub.gif
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he probably confuse with the reference & non-reference like i used to.

p/s:iinm its u who explain it to me in v4 laugh.gif
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QUOTE(ts00000000 @ May 24 2014, 11:31 AM)
Yea, that is those website I needed,
I will try to find the Pilit GTX750Ti, already ask for best price from linglong  brows.gif
Btw, nvidia not a brand?
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Nvidia and AMD are basically manufacturers that produces GPUs, so in a way it's a brand, but you will not find a card that is sold and marketed as Nvidia/AMD accordingly.

Brand names are those like Palit, Gigabyte, Asus, MSI and etc, that takes those GPUs from Nvidia/AMD and then market it under their own brand name.
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QUOTE(TheHitman47 @ May 24 2014, 12:33 PM)
he probably confuse with the reference & non-reference like i used to.

p/s:iinm its u who explain it to me in v4  laugh.gif
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Oh. I thought I already explained above. Haha. Forgot what I said in V4 also. Might have to go back and check. sweat.gif But rav3n82's is more consise anyways. Haha. thumbup.gif
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Zotac's 780Ti is the best 780Ti offered locally right??
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QUOTE(persona93 @ May 24 2014, 01:24 PM)
Zotac's 780Ti is the best 780Ti offered locally right??
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GBros have the Gigabyte GTX780Ti GHz Edition in this thread.. brows.gif Not sure if he has stock for it or not though. laugh.gif
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2852964

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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ May 24 2014, 01:43 PM)
GBros have the Gigabyte GTX780Ti GHz Edition in this thread.. brows.gif Not sure if he has stock for it or not though. laugh.gif
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2852964
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Hehe. Everyone likes the GHz now. brows.gif

But price wise Zotac offers slightly more value I suppose.
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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 24 2014, 01:46 PM)
Hehe. Everyone likes the GHz now.  brows.gif

But price wise Zotac offers slightly more value I suppose.
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Mhmm.. brows.gif

Yup.The price different is about 300 lol. tongue.gif
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Meaning Zotac has more performance per money spent?

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