High end air cooler like Noctua D15 can easily comparable to pretty much all AIO.

I see. So in terms of performance high end air cooler > high end AIO , right? Just the difficulty is the cleaning process ? ok. Get it now.

it will create stress for motherboard because it's almost hanging on the motherboard?
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3233860/all

In a way, yes you're right. But, they may surpass those high end air cooler, though the fans would have to run at basically maximum settings in order to do so, resulting in a very noisy experience. AIO kits are also often dependent on casing airflow, if you have good airflow, the temps may lower slightly.

Cleaning 240mm radiators can be a mess as well.

hey guys.. I have a question

Monitor

Which one is Better?

Samsung S22C170B (5ms) Vs Acer K22HQL (TBA)



This post has been edited by tinydust: Jul 17 2014, 02:43 PM

thanks for the clarification, now I understand the differences. Guess I will just stick back to AIO cooler, I am lazy to clean the 240mm radiator. Since I am not overclocking at all, AIO cooler is enough to overkill, haha

What model you're planning to get? Or already using one?

Already using ... thermaltake water pro 3.0 ...

Been researching month ago before I buy my first rig, previously just laptop user. Too much to research, until now still feel my rig is not built correctly...

below are my specs :
Intel i7-4790 CPU - RM969
Asrock B85-Killer Motherboard - RM289
Kingston HyperX Fury 4GB 1600mhz (2 unit) RAM - RM140x2 = RM280
Samsung 840 EVO 120GB SSD = RM294
Leadtek GTX 760 (reference design) GPU = RM799
TT Water 3.0 Pro Cooler - RM289
Xigmatek Vector 650w PSU - RM299
Bitfenix Shadow case - RM229

feel like should have go with i5-4690 then maybe a H97 motherboard that with intel LAN. Then can go with 2400mhz ram... even casing I also feel kind of lack the airflow design. Top got no ventilation ...

Man that i7 imo is overpriced. You could've gotten a xeon if want future proof.

Your Water Pro 3.0 quite noisy at load right? What temps you can get at idle/load?

Sometimes the user feels that the rig he/she built doesn't look good.. *i guess*

Umm,you cannot run 1866MHz and above RAM on H97 chipset la.


What do you mean by that?

But xeon ... not all board support, since it's for server. The bios of the board need to support xeon only able to use it. Isn't it?

Hmm... i not sure, been using it for few weeks , on gaming+streaming also did not hear it. I put it beside my desk. Never heard the fan sound.
idle around 40'c , when doing task around 51'c , have not seen it gone higher than 51'c currently.

Inb4 going r@ven mode

No la dude, it's a "heavy-task" processor by my books. Capable of running 24/7 and having so many threads/core, good for rendering 3D and it's supported by all 1150 board lor. It is a 1150 socket processor why can't it support?

Check the CPU Support..
http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Fatal1ty%20...Killer/?cat=CPU

It says the Xeon E3-1230 V3 is one of the supported. The CPU is of the Haswell architecture,so compatible with LGA1150 motherboards.


Oh yee..

This post has been edited by Minecrafter: Jul 17 2014, 03:47 PM

"It needs proper BIOS support. Xeons are targetted server boards. So its easier for most mobo makers simply to skip it on consumer boards. Its not due to any other limitation."
quote from below link (AnandTech Forums)
http://atforums.mobi/msg.php?threadid=2367...catid=5&rnum=53

yea my board support E3-1230v3... LOL
but what if compare E3-1230v3 vs i5-4690 ? seems price around the same. But E3-1230v3

should really have went for E3-1230v3 ... can save around Rm 200...

This post has been edited by chabuchabu: Jul 17 2014, 04:14 PM

There are only "certain" Xeon that needed a server board to fully function, some can use by practically all mobo's that are in the B85 or above league.

If you can see this list > http://processormatch.intel.com/MotherBoar...tName=E3-1230V3
The 1230v3 is compatible with most "business type" board which are the B85/H87

PS : Even the B85 Killer board says that it support the Xeon.

This post has been edited by Zgames: Jul 17 2014, 04:06 PM

yea now i learnt something again. How comes suddenly xeon strike into the market of core i series? anyone know? o.o is like making their core i series sales go down by pushing xeon.

Xeon has always been around. For the part of it to come as a future-proof "gaming" processor that I do not know

Hello to all fellow LYN forumers.

I'm here seeking for advise regarding a RM2k budget pc build suggestions (just the pc)

Alongside with it, another additional rm500 will be used for a pc monitor (LED?)

So, a total of RM2.5k budget for PC and monitor (No mouse,no KB,no speaker or any other peripherals)

Planning to purchase tmrw or this weekend.Purpose of the PC is mild gaming(examples of games are DOTA 2,NFS,PES)

One requirement is that the MOBO must have WiFi capability as well.

All advise and help are much appreciated. if any other info needed regarding the usage of pc or any other requirements, do let me know and i will add. Thank you in advance!

Suggest you get a USB dongle instead of mobo with wifi feature, as they're quite expensive.

Intel Core i5 4440 – RM554
Asrock H97M Pro4 – RM299
Corsair Value Ram 8GB DDR3 1600MHz – RM244
WD Caviar Blue 1TB HDD - RM174
Leadtek GTX 750 Ti - RM549
Cooler Master K380 Casing - RM149
FSP Hexa 500W PSU - RM149
Lite-On 24x DVDRW – RM59
Acer K222HQL 21.5" monitor - RM359
TP-LINK TL-WN821N - RM29

Total - RM2565 (prices are from Viewnet)

Can try to go for idealtech promotion,
go for Versa H23 chassis and free wireless dongle.