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onnying88
post Jan 18 2019, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Jan 18 2019, 04:23 PM)
cinaman also not that stupid lah….\

you think they will bring all sales proceed from overseas back to china meh...…..

many tricks can play to hide yr millions overseas...….as long as don't get caught......
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They are not trying to bring back china, but trying to move their fortune out from China.

This is why until today 'third party FX' still the best way to transact big amount RMB in and out.
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post Jan 18 2019, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jan 18 2019, 04:34 PM)
In first tier china cities, price within 3rd ring road is from rmb 60,000/m2.
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That's why even KLCC RM3000psf is consider peanut for them. They can sell just off their apartment and retire in Malaysia with lots of cash in pocket if they like Malaysia.

My china friend's village (佛山)every year got extra cash (2018 he receive RMB10k+- each month) give out to each village member from village land banking rent/sales. In their term the whole village own by all villages and all income is divided equally. That's why they try to give birth to more children so that can get more share. Many easy money for them.

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post Jan 18 2019, 07:36 PM

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QUOTE(onnying88 @ Jan 18 2019, 05:43 PM)
They are not trying to bring back china, but trying to move their fortune out from China.

This is why until today 'third party FX' still the best way to transact big amount RMB in and out.
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That what i said....even cina knows once their profit was in rmb its not easy for them to spend it overseas ..


Thats why they rather received payment outside china and dont bring back to china.
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post Jan 18 2019, 08:14 PM

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QUOTE(onnying88 @ Jan 18 2019, 05:57 PM)
That's why even KLCC RM3000psf is consider peanut for them. They can sell just off their apartment and retire in Malaysia with lots of cash in pocket if they like Malaysia.

My china friend's village (佛山)every year got extra cash (2018 he receive RMB10k+- each month) give out to each village member from village land banking rent/sales. In their term the whole village own by all villages and all income is divided equally. That's why they try to give birth to more children so that can get more share. Many easy money for them.
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People don't buy property on pricing alone e.g. dsl in gua musang is substantially cheaper than kv, how many from kv snap up dsl or retire in gua musang?

the rich have many and better location to choose from e.g sydney, melbourne, vancover, new york, london, fort lauderdale, dubai, bangkok, cape town, little red dot, etc.

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jan 18 2019, 08:14 PM)
People don't buy property on pricing alone e.g. dsl in gua musang is substantially cheaper than kv, how many from kv snap up dsl or retire in gua musang?

the rich have many and better location to choose from e.g sydney, melbourne, vancover, new york, london, fort lauderdale, dubai, bangkok, cape town, little red dot, etc.
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Don’t compare price within MALAYSIA, we are comparing MALAYSIA vs CHINA or others country city.

Did you know that MALAYSIA is top 10 best retirement country in the world? There is a reason we are in the list, and I believe cheap property price will be big plus point.

And how many country in your list above can easily communicate in Chinese in daily? How many country in your list can get Chinese food as easy as here?

P/S I’m not promoting FC as best retire place for Chinese. What I’m promoting is MALAYSIA.

Anyway, I do know some MALAYSIAN also choose to retire at their Hometown for the simplicity of life.

This post has been edited by onnying88: Jan 18 2019, 09:26 PM
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post Jan 18 2019, 09:37 PM

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QUOTE(onnying88 @ Jan 18 2019, 09:19 PM)
Don’t compare price within MALAYSIA, we are comparing MALAYSIA vs CHINA or others country city.

Did you know that MALAYSIA is top 10 best retirement country in the world? There is a reason we are in the list, and I believe cheap property price will be big plus point.

And how many country in your list above can easily communicate in Chinese in daily? How many country in your list can get Chinese food as easy as here?

P/S I’m not promoting FC as best retire place for Chinese. What I’m promoting is MALAYSIA.

Anyway, I do know some MALAYSIAN also choose to retire at their Hometown for the simplicity of life.
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Chinese foods is available in almost every city and town in the world. local chinese food is more for southerners, which many northern and inland chinese can't take regularly.

how many chinese retire to overseas? of those retired overseas, where do they currently retired to?

This post has been edited by icemanfx: Jan 18 2019, 10:25 PM
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post Jan 18 2019, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jan 18 2019, 10:37 PM)
Chinese foods is available in almost every city and town in the world.

how many chinese retire to overseas? of those retired overseas, where do they currently retired to?
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yeah, you must never visit any outside country, just based on your theory and internet for the info about chinese food available easily.
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post Jan 18 2019, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(leodinouknow @ Jan 18 2019, 10:02 PM)
yeah, you must never visit any outside country, just based on your theory and internet for the info about chinese food available easily.
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May be you can enlighten us which city and town that chinese invested in numbers or may retire to don't have chinese foods.

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post Jan 18 2019, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jan 18 2019, 09:37 PM)
Chinese foods is available in almost every city and town in the world. local chinese food is more for southerners, which many northern and inland chinese can't take regularly.

how many chinese retire to overseas? of those retired overseas, where do they currently retired to?
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Try check out how much a plate of sweet and sour pork selling in each country you mention.
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post Jan 18 2019, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jan 18 2019, 08:14 PM)
People don't buy property on pricing alone e.g. dsl in gua musang is substantially cheaper than kv, how many from kv snap up dsl or retire in gua musang?

the rich have many and better location to choose from e.g sydney, melbourne, vancover, new york, london, fort lauderdale, dubai, bangkok, cape town, little red dot, etc.
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There are uber rich, ultra rich and rich ..

Different markets for different richness....
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post Jan 18 2019, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(onnying88 @ Jan 18 2019, 10:34 PM)
Try check out how much a plate of sweet and sour pork selling in each country you mention.
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Foods in rural china is cheaper than malaysia

This post has been edited by icemanfx: Jan 19 2019, 12:51 AM
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post Jan 19 2019, 01:50 AM

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QUOTE(onnying88 @ Jan 18 2019, 01:13 AM)
Even RM1000 psf is cheap compare with RMB20,000+- per meter square in those second tier China city.
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These 2-bedroom apartments in forest city are going for RM1670 psf, or RM18,000 per sq.m., which is RMB30,000 per sq.m.
50% more expensive than second tier China city, not that cheap for retirement winter home confused.gif

QUOTE(onnying88 @ Jan 18 2019, 10:34 PM)
Try check out how much a plate of sweet and sour pork selling in each country you mention.
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Makes no sense to me, to pay RM1,000,000 more for the property just because food there is RM10 cheaper...
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post Jan 19 2019, 03:05 AM

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no need to debate so much, Forest City is another failed project like some other Iskandar projects.

Lose $$ the moment sign on S&P

Reason : Priced too high above local market (3-4 x more)


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post Jan 19 2019, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(michaelchang @ Jan 19 2019, 03:05 AM)
no need to debate so much, Forest City is another failed project like some other Iskandar projects.

Lose $$ the moment sign on S&P

Reason : Priced too high above local market (3-4 x more)
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We are debating why Malaysia consider good place for Chinaman to retire.

Maybe the property not suitable for Malaysian as we have many better choice to choose, but the technology from this project, facilities like medical center ,international school are benefiting Malaysian. How many private company able to build such township in such short time in Malaysia before this.

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post Jan 19 2019, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(penartur @ Jan 19 2019, 01:50 AM)
These 2-bedroom apartments in forest city are going for RM1670 psf, or RM18,000 per sq.m., which is RMB30,000 per sq.m.
50% more expensive than second tier China city, not that cheap for retirement winter home  confused.gif
Makes no sense to me, to pay RM1,000,000 more for the property just because food there is RM10 cheaper...
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you pay less for Malaysia property and pay less for nice chinese food in Malaysia.
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post Jan 19 2019, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jan 18 2019, 11:21 PM)
Foods in rural china is cheaper than malaysia
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Rural China you no need to buy house, just chop bamboo and build the house and stay in forest. Food can gather and hunt in forest. Everything free.

You can do that too in Malaysia, many forest for you to explore.


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post Jan 19 2019, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(onnying88 @ Jan 19 2019, 10:19 AM)
We are debating why Malaysia consider good place for Chinaman to retire.

Maybe the property not suitable for Malaysian as we have many better choice to choose, but the technology from this project, facilities like medical center ,international school are benefiting Malaysian. How many private company able to build such township in such short time in Malaysia before this.
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These facilities are built for profits, not welfare.

QUOTE(onnying88 @ Jan 19 2019, 10:22 AM)
you pay less for Malaysia property and pay less for nice chinese food in Malaysia.
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For cultural and political reason, few Chinese retired to overseas. Those northerners couldn't stand cold winter may move to hainan island. And there are many vacant property in hainan.

What is nice food to locals may not be popular with northerners and inlanders, and vv.

This post has been edited by icemanfx: Jan 19 2019, 11:09 AM
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post Jan 19 2019, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jan 19 2019, 11:01 AM)
These facilities are built for profits, not welfare.
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We should welcome any parties in the world to pour in money and build advance facilities in Malaysia for the beneficial of Malaysian and surrounding area.

You expect them to build for free for you? Even your own gov also can't do that.

This post has been edited by onnying88: Jan 19 2019, 11:15 AM
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post Jan 19 2019, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(onnying88 @ Jan 19 2019, 11:14 AM)
We should welcome any parties in the world to pour in money and build advance facilities in Malaysia for the beneficial of Malaysian and surrounding area.

You expect them to build for free for you? Even your own gov also can't do that.
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As if there is a shortage of private medical center in Malaysia and country garden built for welfare.

This post has been edited by icemanfx: Jan 19 2019, 03:43 PM
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