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post Oct 8 2006, 12:21 AM

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QUOTE(YHL @ Oct 7 2006, 11:54 PM)
I saw a sugar glider at Seri Kembangan today.  Those 'auntie uncle' shop.  I was hunting for guinea pig and i saw one botak sugar glider.  Hairless  shocking.gif
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Why was it bald? shocking.gif
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post Oct 8 2006, 02:07 AM

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QUOTE(nugget @ Oct 8 2006, 01:12 AM)
misa..the glider of yours are truly clean color heh...u spray anything on him? or he is this color when u got him ?
coz mine are a bit yellowyish n dirty in color...althought the head part got a bit clean than 1st came...but the stomach area are coklat color....haha
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No, I don't spray anything on him. That's his natural colour. Usually with male gliders, when they grow older, there might be yellow stains on their chest area because of their scent glands. That's normal. But chocolate colour...hmm -- trying using baby wipes to clean his fur, maybe? But be gentle about it yah! tongue.gif
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post Oct 8 2006, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(InfiniteVoid @ Oct 8 2006, 10:47 AM)
A male Sugar Glider will turn bald when it gets mature. Don't be surprise. That is their scent marking spot. It uses to make the female to make note that the female belongs to it.

The main reason why the price of male is cheaper than female because female don't have any visible scent gland. Female doesn't get bald.
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Well, I know they have a balding spot on their head -- it's diamond shaped. But if they're bald bald, like totally bald it means they're stressed out and have been overgrooming themselves -- feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. But from the description given about the Seri Kembangan glider -- I thought the glider was like totally hairless.

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post Oct 8 2006, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(seryoung @ Oct 8 2006, 02:48 PM)
i just got my female joey, Moochi, yesterday night. she seems scared and keeps on crabbing whenever i move my finger near to pat her. after a few pats i managed to scoop her up, with a lil more crabbing, but after awhile she was climbing all over me. and she has the tendency to jump around alot.

the next morning, i was back to square one sleep.gif". is this normal? is there any way i could get her to be more comfortable with me? (i have placed my tshirt on the cage) also, she doesn't seem to drink water so far,i used a drinking bottle for hamsters. should i use a water bowl instead? i placed a dish with bread, gerber baby food and blueberry jam, and i found out she has preference for blueberry jam smile.gif she's nearly 2months old. is she big enough to eat mealworms? thanks to those who can help me out here smile.gif
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Please read up about gliders -- how to bond with them (it takes time and a lot of patience and you can't force them to do anything) also read up about their nutritional requirements. They need fresh fruits as well.

Refer to the following links:

Trust, Bonding

http://www.sugargliderinfo.com/Bonding/

About Gliders! Please read!

http://www.critterhut.com/gliderknowledge.htm

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post Oct 9 2006, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(seryoung @ Oct 9 2006, 04:34 PM)
thanks! i'll get pics when i can hehe
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Yay! rclxms.gif Can't wait to see the pics.

Haih, BabyBoy is acting like a pig these days. Very naughty. He finished eating his mealworms (6 mealies) then ate a few tiny pieces of fruits. Two hours later, I was eating some watermelon -- he heard the plastic only, he poked his head out of the pouch and stretched his hand out. blush.gif Gave him a bit. Then he went back to sleep. A few hours later, I was eating some raisins. He poked his head out again and demanded some. Gave him one -- hehe not good to give too many in a week.

Then these days at night, he eats a bigger portion of his dinner -- more of Hun's glider mix -- a big tablespoon of chopped fruits -- a tablespoon of veggies. And he cleans his plate up! rclxms.gif

It's cool that he's got a good apetite though. Mainly I'm happy because of the glider mix. I'm not so stressed out about his nutritional needs. Today he jumped from my head to my bookcase and disappeared for an hour. Found him fast asleep on top of a few books. unsure.gif I'm hoping he didn't pee on my books la. tongue.gif

Adoi. I just ate some asam and he also poked his head out. But no, no, no, he can't have that. Haha! Just now I was having dinner also he was just looking! Worse than my cat this one. laugh.gif

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post Oct 9 2006, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(hamster9 @ Oct 9 2006, 09:11 PM)
wub.gif  wub.gif  wub.gif So cutttteee... Already poisoned to buy SG. Can't wait till Jan after all my overseas schedule is over  sweat.gif  Then I'll be home and office everyday to play with suggies  wub.gif  wub.gif 

*everytime hear misa's suggies makes me so impatient in getting it  cry.gif
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Hehe tongue.gif if you want, feel free to play with BabyBoy. He's okay with strangers. Well, so far la. Must have a gathering someday. rclxms.gif

...although these days he gets a bit excited and tends to scramble all over my shoulder and on top of my head. At first I thought he was afraid of something and when I want to put him back in his cage, he will refuse to go in la. blush.gif Then after that only he'll start to behave. whistling.gif

icon_rolleyes.gif Yay! Good to know you'll be getting a glider soon! laugh.gif

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post Oct 9 2006, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(hamster9 @ Oct 9 2006, 09:40 PM)
So late? How come I din see you guys wan? *blind hammy*

I was there from 3pm to 8pm walking to Ikea, Ikano, McDs, Pet Safari (go therE play SG - that time got a couple wanna buy guinea pigs so i have more time playing with SG on my hand  laugh.gif )
Oh, where are u misa? I come ur house play SG  laugh.gif 

Soon? It's too long...  sad.gif
sui teng wave.gif the breeder got stock or not? I can pass my smelly shirt to them to get use of my smell  laugh.gif
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Yeah la I was at Ikano on that day too, only I didn't realize they had a gathering. blush.gif Damn. Would have wanted to see the hammies!

Hehe -- can can! Or one day, when I'm going to Pet Safari again -- let's have a meetup. tongue.gif That would be cool. rclxms.gif

And no worries la, time passes by so quickly these days. Now almost middle of October already mar. Hehe. But I know what you mean -- when you want something, you must have it asap! laugh.gif

Like I want a syrian now. But I can't get one until end of next month! cry.gif

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post Oct 10 2006, 02:02 AM

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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Oct 9 2006, 11:45 PM)
Hahah... wait lah.... End of November or somewhere in December will have another small animal and exotic gathering heheheh....

Misa, so happy lah Baby Boy loves his food heheheh.... wish Kiah would take vege, she would only eat up carrots LOL....
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Do what I do la -- steam frozen veggies in the microwave for a minute -- blend it up and then they will eat it. BabyBoy will eat his veggies whole or blended. Somedays, he'll leave a few bits and pieces here and there, somedays he'll finish it up. At least he's eating it la tongue.gif If you puree it, you can add with some yoghurt or stir it in with your glider mix la the first few times or maybe add a miniscule drop of honey. After that, Kiah might eat it just like that without any additional stuff. Hehe.

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post Oct 10 2006, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(Sugre @ Oct 10 2006, 12:39 PM)
Wow your SG is real lucky. Can babysit mine in December?

I don't know if my SGs are finicky eaters. But they dont' really eat much. Quite worrying. They would only eat a small cube of mix at night. Lately they have been cleaning their bowl but if I give them more... they don't finish it.

Usually feed them fresn fruits in the morning but it seems that they would only eat a few pieces at a time.
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Well, I notice that most days BabyBoy only wants his mealworms in the afternoon and nothing else (maybe yoghurt somedays). He eats and cleans his plate at night. I leave it out for him at midnight and by morning, he's finished it up. So he takes the whole night to eat it la. What are your feeding times like? I don't know but maybe you can try to put them on the same schedule everyday -- that is, feed their mealworms late morning and then don't feed them anything else for that day but during nighttime, give them their full plate of food la -- two different types of fruits -- (i cut mine into small cubes and give them a big tablespoon of it) -- a tablespoon of the mix -- and if you want, you can try to blend the frozen veggies or well, just give them a bit more of the fruits. Veggies would be good though. Since you have two gliders, it should be more than that (since that's the portion i give one glider) but maybe start out by giving a little less than that la for everything -- if they clean their plate out, then try to give them more. Then you know how much they eat. I find that if you cut the fruits into small cubes then they tend to eat more of everything on their plate. Try it la. tongue.gif Hehe hope it'll work somehow. It took me a couple of days (trial and error) to understand his eating habit and also to make him get used to it la. Mealworms I don't give at night -- only in the afternoon -- but if you have to work or you have school -- then feed it to them in the morning la. This way, they won't spoil their apetite for dinner. You can choose to give them their dinner at 9pm onwards or after midnight, depending on when they wake up. BabyBoy wakes up way after midnight everyday. Hehe why la babysit in December? Going somewhere? Now I'm so worried for BabyBoy -- because I'll be leaving in November to Australia so -- god knows la -- his eating habits and all might change. Will have to work on him again when I get back. But hopefully, he'll stay the same. laugh.gif

Oh and reason I don't feed him fruits in the morning/afternoon is because well, that's his nap time really and he'll only wake up for yummy mealworms and maybe one tiny dice of apple or a teaspoon of yoghurt. So nighttime is when he eats his full meal. laugh.gif And gliders have very tiny stomach, so don't worry that you're starving them before dinner time by doing this. I tried feeding BabyBoy more of the fruits in the afternoon, he just won't eat it so that's how I know he's not hungry at all la. All the best!



QUOTE(nugget @ Oct 10 2006, 01:56 PM)
I find out tht glider reconize your scense rather than reconize u by face...at first I really doubt wht they are saying...but keep in touch with them for a while...it really lar...although they can find out where the food is (total darkness)

I lite a cigarette...and after tht...they seems like do not reconize me n bark wildly...lucky I always stand by the smelly cloth around...

wht an animal it is...glider!!!
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laugh.gif Hopefully you don't smoke near your gliders la eh hehe

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post Oct 10 2006, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(xxstrangerxx @ Oct 10 2006, 03:49 PM)
any recommended Breeder in KL or PJ area??
i am looking for a female glider which is half year old...since my last femal ran off
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You can contact smellyocheese at her thread.
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post Oct 11 2006, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(Sugre @ Oct 11 2006, 10:56 AM)
Hey Misa I tried looking for the 100Yen shop at Mid Valley to no avail, the directory say there is none. Is there any other shops closer to PJ? Puchong very far ler.

Oh and yes... I am going of to Australia for 2 weeks in December.. Would like to know that when I am gone, my critters will be okay. So I would love to have an experienced babysitter.

Last night Roscoe was being a rascal. I let him out of the cage to roam and he picked up everything on the floor to chew on! He puts everything into his mouth, even tried to climb into the dustbin  sweat.gif He crawled all over the place, looks like an iguana walking. And the skipped around! So cute! Must have been happy to explore the room because he was also rubbing himself all across the walls. Is this scent marking? He did it quite a few times.
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Okay give me a few days -- I'll go to the 100Yen store in Puchong and find out where else they have the stores in Klang Valley etc. You're in PJ or KL? Worse comes to worse, if you want, I can help you get the pouch. Then maybe can meet up at Midvalley or something. See la -- hehe. Let me ask them where are their other shops first. Will keep you posted. I might go there this weekend.

Well, you can contact smellyocheese with regards to glidersitting. I'm getting her to take care of my glider when I leave for Australia next month. She has boarding facilities, etc. Your gliders will be well taken care of as she's totally experienced. tongue.gif

Lol! Yeah BabyBoy does the same thing. The other day, I was playing my guitar and he was on my shoulder then he stole my guitar pick from me and wouldn't give it back. He just held onto it with both hands and started chewing on it. Then he brought it into his pouch and until now he has it with him. Bad bad boy. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(nugget @ Oct 11 2006, 07:06 PM)
my 4 glider are not tame as I buy from farm...means they do not trim their nail...izzit tht important to trim it ?I c the nail like normal nia....maybe bcoz of I keep iguana so glider nail is sap sap soi...or it had another factor tht their nail hav to be trim....izzit coz they will sangkut at cloth?
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Well, the reason people trim the nails is because their nails are so sharp that they tend to hurt our skin when they're crawling all over us. But be careful when you trim their nails, just trim the very edge of it -- don't cut into the quick of the nail or it will bleed and it will be painful for the glider.

Don't have to trim it if you don't want to and if you don't mind their sharp nails. If they're tame, they usually don't dig into your skin that hard la. After awhile also, you'll get used to it.

With regards to the nail being tersangkut on a cloth or the pouch or anything -- be sure you always check your pouch and stuff, make sure the material is not the kind that can allow the nail to tersangkut in such a way that your glider will be stuck. Use fleece material la. That's good.
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QUOTE(boigamaniac @ Oct 11 2006, 08:44 PM)
Now this is a glider i wanna keep.

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It's about 25 times bigger than a sugar glider and snuggles in your arms like a small terrier. Also critically endangered. Just for anyone who doesnt know, there are 6 species of glider that look completely diff from each other, except for the sugar and squirrel glider which look similiar.

Misa, my gliders don't have twins. It looks like a single baby now that the bump is really big. Sigh... oh well. Glad to see babyboy is doing great! I think it's tamer than my gliders.

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Wow shocking.gif that glider is super cool looking. A little scary though. Now I'm interested to find out what the other species of gliders look like. *goes to google 'em*

And aww ;0; just a single baby. It'll be cool if you get a female suggie since the last time you got two boys, right? tongue.gif

Hehe well, BabyBoy follows me everywhere so I'm glad that he's tame and he's easy to handle. laugh.gif
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whistling.gif I'm so tempted to work on my glider's cage...

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Isn't this amazing? A glider will never get bored in a cage like this one. tongue.gif
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post Oct 12 2006, 01:52 PM

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QUOTE(shadowcaster @ Oct 12 2006, 09:09 AM)
wah misa...the cage uber colorful! I prefer a more 'natural' looking cage but that one everything also got... super cool.  laugh.gif
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Yeah, I prefer a more natural looking cage too but this one does look fun! And BabyBoy is into playing with all sorts of toys so I might work on his cage setup. tongue.gif


QUOTE(heidityj @ Oct 12 2006, 09:48 AM)
i wonder how long it takes to clean the cage... my cage only has a few items but cleaning up the poo poo and pee already headache.. tongue.gif
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Hehe yeah la it'll be a huge problem if the glider pees and poos everywhere in the cage. sweat.gif


QUOTE(joshlee @ Oct 12 2006, 12:46 PM)
ahhh my charcoal losing her fur on her tail..can anyone tell me what could be the cause of this?..

i don think its the food i feed her but cant be too sure. could it be stress?
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Usually that's a sign of overgrooming due to stress or depression. Have you been spending enough time with her? Did you change her feeding schedule? Her typical daily schedule? Did you change her diet? Is she the only glider you have? She might be feeling lonely...

If you see any sort of bite wounds or redness on the bald spot, please bring her to a vet -- there's one in Taman Megah, the vet's name is Dr Yeoh. He's seen a few gliders before this. If you leave the wound untreated and if it gets itchy or uncomfortable for her, she'll start to bite into it and this is a form of self mutilation. Gliders have been known to bite their tails off or self mutilate when they are in pain. This can be fatal if not properly looked into. I hope she'll be okay soon.
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QUOTE(joshlee @ Oct 12 2006, 04:34 PM)
i don see any wounds that is visible so i don think she bit herself..i think its stress cause everytime when i hold her she get very shaky and scared so i'm trying to spend as much time as i can wit her..i actually got a a pair of glider but the boy died 3weeks ago  due to illness  cry.gif ..

so yes she is alone now i guess she's lonely..thinking of getting another boy for her to play with  laugh.gif ..i've been using the diet prescribed to me by crazymouse and she eats em clean most of the time and eat mealies and fruits too..i feed her during the night and give her mealies during daytime once a while..

the underpart of her tail is losing hair but besides that she seems alrite and very active..slept in my arms last nite  rclxms.gif  so cuteee..first time for me so im  rclxm9.gif ..
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if the boy died three weeks ago, keep a good watch on her as she might have been infected as well because with gliders they don't show obvious signs of illness until it's too late. hopefully, you cleaned the cage right after the boy died and gave the pouches, toys, etc a good cleaning and aired the room out.

but well, don't worry too much la tongue.gif it's good that you're spending time with her. doesn't mean you have to play with her all the time, you can let her sleep in a pouch and carry her around with you so she can still feel your presence. could be she's a bit depressed that she lost her cage mate.

and well, if you don't have the time and cash to care for joeys (as they get babies twice a year), you can also get her a female buddy instead of a boy hehe.

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QUOTE(yagami15my15 @ Oct 12 2006, 09:20 PM)
hi guyz may get a SG very very soon and i was thinking if there is anything specific i need to look out for when buying it?

such as attitute(fierce), mite-proof, anything else?

can i keep it in my room cos i have a ceilling fan which is blowing around speed 3(i scare he sg will get cold) and do i need to cover the cage wih cloth so that the sg will feel more secure as menttion from smellycheese?

i think i may be getting a pair which is about 3-5month old but its both male from wat i hear (i scare they brokeback sad.gif )

food=5mealworm per week and lots lots of fruits right?

anybody selling cheap cage or can recommend some place which is cheap?

forget o mention the person selling me say the sg eat dog food when they r 3 month old is it bad?
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When you first get a glider, you need to understand that it won't bond with you immediately and it'll crab at you, etc. Please read this to learn how to bond with your glider -- it takes time and patience -->

http://www.sugargliderinfo.com/Bonding/

Also, please take the time to read this to find out more information about gliders and how to care for them -->

http://www.sugargliderinfo.com/

http://www.critterhut.com/gliderknowledge.htm

If you're getting two males, please be aware that they will scent mark a lot as they're unneutered -- meaning they might pee all over the place to mark their territory so their cages will stink quite a bit (unless you clean their cages periodically) when they get older. It's best you get two females. Don't get a breeding pair unless you're able to care and provide for the joeys. If you're getting a single glider, please make sure you have the time to play with it so it won't get lonely and depressed.

You need a 3 ft tall cage at least. It's going to cost you around RM80+ or more depending on where you get it. Check out the pet stores listed in the forum. You can go to Natural Aquatic. They have a 3ft tall cage for RM110. Or you can go to Irene's Aquarium (the one in KL not PJ!) -- they sell cages for a cheap price there -- around RM40 above. You can also go to Pet Safari in Ikano -- the cage there is RM100.

You can give 5 small mealworms per day or a little more than that. Not per week. Besides that, yes, they will need fresh fruits. Please read up about the dietary requirements for the gliders -- so you won't accidentally give them something they're not supposed to eat. This can be fatal. I would suggest that you purchase the glider mix from Hun. See this thread. This can be supplemented with the fresh fruits. It's good to feed the gliders with that as it already contains calcium and vitamin supplements which is important for your gliders or they will suffer from hind leg paralysis which yet again can be fatal. So if you don't feed them right, they will suffer. Please educate yourself with regards to their dietary requirements.

And no, they shouldn't be eating dog or cat food.

All the best!

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post Oct 13 2006, 01:24 PM

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Aiyo, BabyBoy's very active in the afternoons these days. He will be jumping around from about 12 to 2pm after having his mealworms and he'll refuse to go back into his pouch and he can go on and on if someone's willing to play with him. Super active summore. And extremely naughty. sweat.gif

The fella la -- sleep until 2 or 3 am everyday. Haih. Turning out to be a little unnocturnal already laugh.gif

In the evenings, when I ask him to get out of his pouch, he'll poke his head out but refuse to come out to play. He'll only stay awake enough to chew on some fruits -- even then, he has his eyes closed! vmad.gif

Die la like this -- a furry little animal jumping around in the afternoon during office hours. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(nugget @ Oct 13 2006, 11:36 PM)
I found out tht when u don't clean their cage after two days...got horible smell leh...I mean the branches...n their coconut shell...lately I found out tht ants had patron their cage...how u prevent the fly fly thing and ants away ha? mind to teach?
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Remove all uneaten food after 12 hours. Fruits attract flies and ants, etc.
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QUOTE(nugget @ Oct 14 2006, 12:17 AM)
hi misa...

yalor...removed already n change the news paper below the cage everyday...
some how the smell still there...mm...maybe they pee in the coconut shell n poop in side it make them smelly... sad.gif

your cage are so so colorful...your glider didn't escape using the gaps between the iron bar meh ?
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You can give the cage bars a good wipedown with baby wipes. That's what I do. Also, when the gliders are in the pouch with you -- try sunning the cage la and the branches and the coconut shell. You can do this once a week. Give the cage a thorough cleaning. And sun everything. Did you put any cloth in the coconut shell? Best to do that la -- some gliders don't pee in the coconut cage cause if there's a cloth there, they sleep in it - for some if they pee in it, at least it gets absorbed by the cloth and u can wash it out and it won't seep into the coconut shell. Make sure you take out the cloth everyday and check la -- if they pee in it then change the cloth.

No la hehe that's not my cage. But I'd love to allow my glider to play in that sort of cage. Looks like fun!

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