Any recommendation for a wide angle zoom lens for 700D.

Im looking at 10-22mm canon and 10-20 sigma. Any other recommendation?

Your reply is so much appreciate.

if you are looking for super wideness, then go for the sigma 8-16mm, super sharp across the frame but cannot use filter without specific adapter.

the canon 10-22 is good i think, has USM and good IQ.

sigma 10-20 in the other hand, has both 2 versions with different aperture. i tried one of them before (can't recall the exact model), the corners are quite unusable wide open but good enough after stopped down like f8 and beyond.

then there's tokina 11-16mm f2.8 for the big aperture.

Sigma 8-16mm Hmmm will look into that? What you mean need specific adapter? normal like UV filter can put on right?

owned both Canon 10-22 and Sigma 10-20 (variable aperture type).

Build quality - Sigma feels more solid

Weight - Canon easier to go around

Distortion - Canon has better distortion control, though Sigma's distortion is pretty fun. It's a LOVE / HATE thing. I changed from Sigma to Canon only because I started doing interior photography professionally. If not I'd stick to Sigma

Focusing - both also fast, both also has FTM. One uses USM, the other has HSM.

Value - Sigma is a lot cheaper and comes with hood! Canon cheapskate don't give hood on EF-S lenses. Good thing you can get 3rd party hood cheap. Anyway, it depends on what you value as well. I went for Canon because I value the distortion control and better service.

there's no way you can put any filter on it because of the bulbous front element. unless you get some special adapters that will created a filter thread to hold filters.

this is a great wide angle lense, but during day time if you're trying to take long exposure u may have problems cuz you cannot put on any ND filters (to reduce light cming to your camera so u can lower shutter speed without overexposing photograph). The Tokina 11-16 is a great and sharp lense, great for all purpose with a major weakness, when the sun is direct, it flares SUPER easily.I currently use the tokina 11-16

Thanks for the explanation. Any sample photo for 8-16mm?

Yes, I also looking at tokina 11-16mm. But some review said the design is not good. quality is good. Any sample photos to share?

Yes, I understand that. hmm.. need to really thing.

What do you mean design not good? I find the build and image quality are very good. You want sample pics, click on my flickr below. Most of the europe pics are from tokina

Tokina's weakness is its focal range where the widest is 11mm and most others are 10mm widest. In UWA terms every mm counts. SO definetly Sigma 8-16mm's 8mm is really wide.

What are your reasons for wanting the F2.8 aperture? To shoot indoor hand held? For video in the indoors?

the "design not so good" is just people being anal about the push/pull to auto/manual focus. extremely small issue like that also they wanna pick. its a wide angle lense as well, it isnt often you will be needing to change from auto to manual by grabbing the focus ring. basically its stupid, and finding fault for the sake of finding fault, when there really is none

lemme give u low down since i used sigma 8-16 and tokina 11-15, and as well compare with the Sammyang 8mm fisheye

SIGMA :
PROS: VERY VERY WIDE, without becoming fisheye. great for landscapes. "fattenning effect" can be used to increase drama in the picture.
CONS: Its a specialty lense for landscapes, because of its small aperture, there is a limit to its uses for anything other than landscapes unless you have a flash when there is little light. additionally, because its so wide, anything at either 1/3 of the photo is VERY stretched to become fatter than it really is. So its horrible if you have people anywhere in it, unless its in the center. you cannot mount a filter.

notice my picture below how the sides tend to be a bit fatter, exaggerating the drama of the picture

Sunset Bridge by Leong Seng Chee, on Flickr


TOKINA:
PROS: large aperture at f2.8, makes it usable it low lighting without a flash. dumb it down to f5.6 and your pictures become razor sharp. additionally, it does NOT have that fattenning effect of SIGMA, making it ideal when you have people all over the frame. you can put filter as well to help with long exposure.
CONS: not as wide as the sigma, not as dramatic, and it FLARES. EASILY. which means if you're gonna take a landscape with the sun directly facing your lense like the sun peeking over the mountains mid morning, prepare for some flare!

the example below could not have been taken with sigma, because all the people will look fat at either side of the frame. as in wayyy fat.

Awaiting the next generation by Leong Seng Chee, on Flickr


SAMMYANG FISHEYE

PROS: SUPER DUPER WIDE. FISHEYE EFFECT. Can technically get awesome pano if you use a defish-eye software. razor sharp.
CONS: Manual focus. you're gonna have to buy that cheap stick on connection thingy to help get a focus confirmation. Out of box almost all sammyang 8mm are not calibrated, so you gotta calibrate the focus yourself (which is very easy, i have no experience and i did it in 10 mins). its a SPECIALTY LENSE. FISHEYE EFFECT. you may/may not have limited use for this lense due to the fisheye effect

notice the curves of the picture. while fisheye do not FATTEN your subject, it curves your subject instead at the sides. not ideal when u have straight vertical lines there

Another world by Leong Seng Chee, on Flickr

This post has been edited by Baronic: May 6 2014, 08:17 AM

the aperture is far from being small. it's certainly usable for many things besides landscape.

travel and street photography would work fine. on wide it's just 1 stop different from the f2.8, not a big deal.

Not sure if the stretch effect of the sigma would work well on people, but its just a relative comparison to the tokina. If i had the money i would get and keep all three lol for different uses. The comparison i made is relative. Im sure the cons can also be pros depending on how creative a photographer is at making full use of a lense's characteristics

all UWA lens would have weird effect once the human figure or main human subject goes to the side.

nevertheless street photography / travel photography isn't so much about humans. It could be an empty street alone, the distortion makes it very nice to play with.

Thank you for the explanation. But UWA lens are meant to shoot landscape. yes, the fattening effect is going to happen when shooting people. But rarely use UWA lens to shooting human.

Yes, one thinking hold me back is the flitter thing. Do there have any special adapter for sigma to put flitter?

Yes, I agree with you.

Yeap, just wasnt sure if u knew it or not so i thought id tell u the difference between tokina 11 and sigma 8.

There isnt a way to put a filter on. Even a square filter at 8mm cuz of the bulbous front element. To clear the front element you'll be covering much of the frame with heavy vignetting.

Used to own the Tok 11-16 f2.8 and I loved it but I used it mainly indoors for events without flash. Brought it to Europe for those extra wide shots but rarely used it.

One more question, will it be any new release on the Tokina 11-16? I realise it got two model for 11-16

Tokina AT-X 116 PRO DX-II and AT-X 116 PRO DX?

If I'm not wrong. the DX-II is the update version of the DX. Correct me if I am wrong.