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TSfishermanship
post May 1 2014, 11:04 AM, updated 12y ago

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[COLOR=purple]receive a call from HLB agent said to invest their new mutual fund.... now selling 0.70 cent per unit and they guarantee buy back at rm1.30 after nine years or what ever highest price over these 9 years...

hard to believe.... anyone experience it?
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post May 1 2014, 11:11 AM

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post May 1 2014, 11:17 AM

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copy ideas from insurance.
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post May 1 2014, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(fishermanship @ May 1 2014, 11:04 AM)
[COLOR=purple]receive a call from HLB agent said to invest their new mutual fund.... now selling 0.70 cent per unit and they guarantee buy back at rm1.30 after nine years or what ever highest price over these 9 years...

hard to believe.... anyone experience it?
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This is not Hong Leong Bank, this is Hong Leong Assurance evergreen fund(If I'm not mistaken about the name).

I don't really remember the product feature but it's something like you have to buy it at RM1 price now and they guaranteed to give you minimal price of (example: RM1.1) in 10 years time, it's written in black and white.

However, the floor price that they are giving is too low, I've calculated that the floor price they are giving is about 0.5% Compound Annual Growth Rate(CAGR) interest over 10 years time. Anyhow, with this kind of guaranteed return investment, I don't expect the price of the unit will be fly very high, and it's proven with the HLA fund track record over the past 5 years, it's only drop but never hike.
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post May 1 2014, 11:21 AM

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85% return? 9 years, average interest 9+% PA, guaranteed? BULLSHIAT
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post May 1 2014, 11:23 AM

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The only thing with guaranteed return is FD. (but it will not preserve value)
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post May 1 2014, 11:23 AM

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9 months then ok lah, 9 yrs? gtfo.
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post May 1 2014, 11:24 AM

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got give dividen yearly or not ??
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post May 1 2014, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(ExpZero @ May 1 2014, 11:20 AM)
This is not Hong Leong Bank, this is Hong Leong Assurance evergreen fund(If I'm not mistaken about the name).

I don't really remember the product feature but it's something like you have to buy it at RM1 price now and they guaranteed to give you minimal price of (example: RM1.1) in 10 years time, it's written in black and white.

However, the floor price that they are giving is too low, I've calculated that the floor price they are giving is about 0.5% Compound Annual Growth Rate(CAGR) interest over 10 years time. Anyhow, with this kind of guaranteed return investment, I don't expect the price of the unit will be fly very high, and it's proven with the HLA fund track record over the past 5 years, it's only drop but never hike.
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what is floor price?

that lady keep saying if drop can buy more, then the return would be better after nine years....
minimum rm3500 per year to be invested....
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post May 1 2014, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(pisces88 @ May 1 2014, 11:21 AM)
85% return? 9 years, average interest 9+% PA, guaranteed? BULLSHIAT
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i also calculated the same way... that why i said hard to believe...
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post May 1 2014, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(ManyGer @ May 1 2014, 11:24 AM)
got give dividen yearly or not ??
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dun think so....
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post May 1 2014, 11:30 AM

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marketing la. the guaranteed return so low. not much difference form putting in fixed deposit.

world is liddis one. if you want no risk, then the return very low (and sometimes very long)

if you want high returns, then you need higher risk. it's almost like a law of nature.
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post May 1 2014, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(fishermanship @ May 1 2014, 11:29 AM)
i also calculated the same way... that why i said hard to believe...
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just remember, anything above 5% guaranteed PA is fishy already laugh.gif
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post May 1 2014, 11:40 AM

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you can make much much more with other non guaranteed UT.
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post May 1 2014, 11:41 AM

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scam...
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post May 1 2014, 11:56 AM

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Last year, 3 HLA agents came to see me. laugh.gif

I NBTD, so I layan them. Didn't buy anything.

Also, they weren't hot. biggrin.gif

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post May 1 2014, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(fishermanship @ May 1 2014, 11:28 AM)
what is floor price?

that lady keep saying if drop can buy more, then the return would be better after nine years....
minimum rm3500 per year to be invested....
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The floor price is the price they are guaranteed to buy back from you in a certain period of time.
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post May 1 2014, 12:04 PM

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it's not scam, just the return benefit worse than FD.
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post May 1 2014, 12:08 PM

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HLA income builder performance
http://www.hla.com.my/promo/IncomeBuilder.pdf

HLA unit performance
http://www.hla.com.my/quickaccess/venture_...rice_graph.aspx
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post May 1 2014, 12:08 PM

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same with this
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/805771


TSfishermanship
post May 1 2014, 10:44 PM

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thanks to all...

but if in black and white written buy now at RM 0.7 and they guarantee buy back rm1.30 after nine years...

or 9.5% pa return which very good....



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