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should be HALAL kan?
Muslim OK to eat at chinese vegetarian shop?
Muslim OK to eat at chinese vegetarian shop?
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Apr 30 2014, 02:27 PM, updated 12y ago
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as topic boleh ke?
should be HALAL kan? |
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Apr 30 2014, 02:27 PM
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No halal cert means non-halal
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kenot! chinese vegetable use pig fat as fertilizer!
harom! |
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HAROM!!jihad!!
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Apr 30 2014, 02:30 PM
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harommmmmmm must suport muslim vegetarian shop!!!!!!!!
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Apr 30 2014, 02:31 PM
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patok saja.
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Apr 30 2014, 02:31 PM
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If you feel 100% sure halal, eat
If you feel 50/50, don't eat. |
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Apr 30 2014, 02:31 PM
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depends on what type of muslim you are. if you are liberal muslim, don't care.
but if you're paranoid muslim, don't eat. sked later the kuali got use minyak babi. or the human cooking it touch babi b4. or maybe the lift that used to transport the food share the same space with babi meat before. |
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I got Malay colleague who doesn't mind, no problem for her.
I've also seen a few Malays eat in some Yong Tau Foo restaurants that are not certified halal because well...its only fish... |
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Apr 30 2014, 02:31 PM
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should be halal but once upon a time i go their menu got "ba kut teh"
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Apr 30 2014, 02:32 PM
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technically halal
but need to know if the food cook with alcohol / wine |
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Apr 30 2014, 02:32 PM
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QUOTE(thelws @ Apr 30 2014, 02:31 PM) depends on what type of muslim you are. if you are liberal muslim, don't care. nama dah VEGETARIAN shop mana ada minyak babi woi but if you're paranoid muslim, don't eat. sked later the kuali got use minyak babi. or the human cooking it touch babi b4. or maybe the lift that used to transport the food share the same space with babi meat before. |
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use wain still kenot...
but generally halal(assume no alcoholic n meat enghrdient used)... |
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Apr 30 2014, 02:33 PM
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no halal cert means non halal
non halal doesnt means haram |
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Apr 30 2014, 02:34 PM
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No halal cert = haram = ikea food cannot eat by muslim ?
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Apr 30 2014, 02:35 PM
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Vegetarian food is one of the best things on earth.
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Apr 30 2014, 02:35 PM
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No Halal cert - cannot eat
DUlu itu manyak fastfood/cafe pun tarak cert, meh makan jugak. Inb4 , syok makan, xsyok x makan la. Inb4 , cara buat ayam Kangkung Fried Chicken.. lel |
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QUOTE(Fenrir7 @ Apr 30 2014, 02:29 PM) Did you know that pork fat is made from Carbon and Hydrogen chains? That can be found in almost everything we eat from chicken, vegetable oils and etc. And the water we drink, contains OH- ion that found in Alcohol? So, everything we eat or drink should be HARAM kan? |
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If the ingredients inside that restaurant safe from alcohol n pig..shud b ok..
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Apr 30 2014, 02:36 PM
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Apr 30 2014, 02:36 PM
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i eat at the temple near klcc all the time.
VERY CHEAP!! |
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Apr 30 2014, 02:37 PM
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Apr 30 2014, 02:37 PM
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i welcum malay come eat chinese vege shop. we are malaysian kan? no need 1malaysia
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Apr 30 2014, 02:37 PM
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QUOTE(Tiffany Hwang @ Apr 30 2014, 02:35 PM) Then I guess its ok. I'd eat there after asking the shop owner if its Hala (the chinese here generally tell you correctly about halal or non) Anyways after asking the onus of truth is on the store owner (Meaning if they said halal we can assume it to be halal, as long as we know there is no pork/nonhalal meat/alcohol) and if they lied about it the sin is on them. My chinese classmate regularly eats the chinese buddhist restaurant (veg) She's Muslim and they didn't say anything about her eating there so far, but then again she is chinese and doesn't wear tudung This post has been edited by jpoplover101: Apr 30 2014, 02:38 PM |
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QUOTE(ArenarZ @ Apr 30 2014, 02:35 PM) is there any muslim vegetarian shop?? i mean in KL or PJ...macam tak ada QUOTE(raizil @ Apr 30 2014, 02:36 PM) u muslim or non muslim? |
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lapar, eat; good cuisine, enjoy; so many pantang dunno do what
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Apr 30 2014, 02:38 PM
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actualy the halal cert is to comfirmed the shop is halal. many shop dont have halal cert and operate also by muslim and non muslim. so up to you to choose. i eat at bangsar chinese shop from young. her mee wantan ketchup and mee kari awsome.. hehehe
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QUOTE(jpoplover101 @ Apr 30 2014, 02:34 PM) Alcohol is not haram. Liquor is. Wine is. Benda memabukkan is. Alcohol? No. Plus alcohol will evaporate into the air anyway once used.But to answer TS, vegetarian chinese food is OK. As ALL the ingredients used would be from veges, including oil. Some muslim think that only them are strict with their diet, well, vegetarians are strict too. |
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QUOTE(iSean @ Apr 30 2014, 02:35 PM) Did you know that pork fat is made from Carbon and Hydrogen chains? u dumfuk.That can be found in almost everything we eat from chicken, vegetable oils and etc. And the water we drink, contains OH- ion that found in Alcohol? So, everything we eat or drink should be HARAM kan? |
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QUOTE(zeliustitan @ Apr 30 2014, 02:37 PM) i have eaten before, the chinese vege shop in Masjid Jamek. (Im muslim) It was nice, but a bit bland for me (I'm used to having meat for evry dish) The way they cooked the soya and tofu really was nice tho |
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QUOTE(thelws @ Apr 30 2014, 02:31 PM) depends on what type of muslim you are. if you are liberal muslim, don't care. Kinda defeat the purpose of being a vegetarian shop if the shop uses cooking oil with minyak babi but if you're paranoid muslim, don't eat. sked later the kuali got use minyak babi. or the human cooking it touch babi b4. or maybe the lift that used to transport the food share the same space with babi meat before. |
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halal haram dalam badan, hanya tuhan saja yg tahu.
kalau kenyang, halal maybe. |
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QUOTE(emino @ Apr 30 2014, 02:38 PM) Alcohol is not haram. Liquor is. Wine is. Benda memabukkan is. Alcohol? No. Plus alcohol will evaporate into the air anyway once used. Ok thanks!But to answer TS, vegetarian chinese food is OK. As ALL the ingredients used would be from veges, including oil. Some muslim think that only them are strict with their diet, well, vegetarians are strict too. mau kolos thread...tak nanti ada orang gila racing.. then i can ask my muslim friend go makan vegetarian food |
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QUOTE(Tiffany Hwang @ Apr 30 2014, 02:43 PM) lol muslims generally dont like to be vegetarian tbh. and anyways vege food is usually halal for muslims so there is no need to open a seperate one for halal vege... just ask the owner if it is halal and they use alcohol and if they don't then we can eat there |
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tukang masak berak tak cebuk
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QUOTE(funnybone @ Apr 30 2014, 02:40 PM) i agree. but all those reason i stated was mentioned before by muslim paranoids. 1)sked the kuali got minyak babi. 2)the person handling it touch babi b4 3)the method used to transport the food too close to babi. haih... these people paranoid teramat sangat. even indon muslims also don't so paranoid. |
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QUOTE(jpoplover101 @ Apr 30 2014, 02:46 PM) lol muslims generally dont like to be vegetarian tbh. and anyways vege food is usually halal for muslims so there is no need to open a seperate one for halal vege... just ask the owner if it is halal and they use alcohol and if they don't then we can eat there ya ka? alamak tak ada market ni...patut la tak nampak muslim vegetarian shop |
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vegetarian bak kut teh
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hey man, do u think vegetarian stalls would use minyak babi to cook vege?
Chinese also got quality control on these kind of things la. Chinese also care about their religion u know. If got vege shop use minyak babi, sure kena diao edi. Not everything is minyak babi one. |
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as long as taste gooding,redah saje
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QUOTE(emino @ Apr 30 2014, 02:38 PM) Alcohol is not haram. Liquor is. Wine is. Benda memabukkan is. Alcohol? No. Plus alcohol will evaporate into the air anyway once used. I tot janji ada pakai alcohol of any sort in the cooking process = haram? |
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so, if you went to St Andrew, you wont eat anything dont you?
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QUOTE(Tiffany Hwang @ Apr 30 2014, 09:42 AM) Ok thanks! Not to burst your bubble. mau kolos thread...tak nanti ada orang gila racing.. then i can ask my muslim friend go makan vegetarian food But they can still decline. It's all in their perception. I asked a friend before, and he said turned it down. "Was-was lah", he said. Although was-was against what I'm not sure, since I already explained to him and he cannot think of anything that could be haram. |
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QUOTE(deodorant @ Apr 30 2014, 02:53 PM) Haram if it becomes intoxicating food. Alcohol was never mentioned as haram. Yes it is a part of wine and liquor which were specifically mentioned as haram, but water and grapes were also a part of wine and liquor and water/grapes are not haram. Same goes to alcohol. |
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SHould be no problem. I ate in vegetarian restaurant few times before. But I do ask the if they use any wine/alcohol as part of the ingredient when cooking.
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Of course Muslims cannot eat at Chinese vegetarian shop laaa. Even though the shop doesn't serve pork, but the money got touched by people who has touched pork, so cannot! Muslims only accept money which has not touched pork.
If the Muslim go there and give exact amount or say "keep the change", then should be ok I think. |
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Don't eat lah, habis cerita. Menyusahkan org melayu lain je yg nak makan. How to surivive if you go overseas?
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HAAAvROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMM~~
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As long you 100% sure that they ain't cooking/mixing it with haram stuff, my assumption was yes, you can. Though if there is even a 1% of uncertainty, you should not.
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so muslims keep a record of all transaction, exchange of notes and coins of the people they do business with..?
last i checked most hypermarkets have a non-halal section. I guess those muslims that shop there are sinners then. |
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Some muslims are really paranoid about halal thing.
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