GENERAL 2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 900 / 1900 / 2100
SIM Micro-SIM
Announced 2014, February
Status Coming soon. Exp. release 2014, May
BODY Dimensions 140 x 72.8 x 9.3 mm (5.51 x 2.87 x 0.37 in)
Weight 164 g (5.78 oz)
DISPLAY Type Capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Size 540 x 960 pixels, 5.0 inches (~220 ppi pixel density)
Multitouch Yes
SOUND Alert types Vibration, MP3 ringtones
Loudspeaker Yes
3.5mm jack Yes
MEMORY Card slot microSD, up to 32 GB
Internal 8 GB, 1.5 GB RAM
DATA GPRS Yes
EDGE Yes
Speed HSPA+
WLAN Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n, Wi-Fi hotspot
Bluetooth Yes, v4.0 with A2DP, LE
NFC Yes
USB Yes, microUSB v2.0
CAMERA Primary 5 MP, 2592 х 1944 pixels, autofocus, LED flash
Features Geo-tagging
Video Yes, 1080p
Secondary Yes, 1.1 MP, 720p
FEATURES OS BlackBerry 10.2.1 OS
Chipset Qualcomm MSM8230 Snapdragon 400
CPU Dual-core 1.2 GHz Krait 200
GPU Adreno 305
Sensors Accelerometer, proximity
Messaging SMS, MMS, Email, Push Email, IM, BBM 6
Browser HTML5
Radio FM radio
GPS Yes, with A-GPS support
Java Yes, MIDP 2.1
Colors Black
- Active noise cancellation with dedicated mic
- HDMI port
- SNS integration
- BlackBerry maps
- Organizer
- Document viewer
- Photo viewer/editor
- Video editor
- MP3/WAV/eAAC+/FlAC/WMA player
- MP4/H.263/H.264/WMV player
- Voice memo/dial
- Predictive text input
BATTERY Non-removable Li-Ion 2500 mAh battery
Stand-by Up to 384 h
Talk time Up to 15 h 30 min

wat u guys think about it..will it be hot sales..

Sure hot seller at RM99 only!! woooohooo! yeah! LOL

I'm hoping that its going to be sold around or lesser than RM600. as in MSRP. I don't know if they can even make it lower.

Mid end phone. Pretty good for normal user.

Hope they can make it this time.

Its supposed to be considered as low end though. At least from BlackBerry's point of view.

yeah cant wait for this ..this will be my 1st bb phone ever..

Why do you still want to use Blackberry? Lack of apps
There are so many models out there, HTC, Sony, and others.

Are you a BlackBerry 10 user?

i want to use all os .. now i already try window,ios ,android and now wanna try bb os.. its look cool..+ can support apk..social hub look great also

If apps is the only thing you're thinking of...

You're not supposed to get this phone.


If you're thinking of communications first...

Then this phone is good enough for you.

Because this is TRUE BLACKBERRY with no compromises in communication features. (no such thing as high end software and low end software)


technically BlackBerry can run both BlackBerry 10 apps and Android apps. BOTH, at the same time. What it does not run though, are Google Services Framework.

Z3 is low end Blackberak phone ler... Targeted at Indo. That's why codename Jakarta.

Agree, but as the saying goes, a fool and his money is soon parted.

Hyper - Good advise as always!

agree..thanks for the advice..

Wonder when this will be released. Might highly suggest to my wife if the price is below 700.

I wonder if she should go for z10 rather than if ever waiting for this ?

The price is expected to be idr 2199000. That is roughly around rm600 if converted directly. So the price cant be far from that range.

My wife is already loving the design. It looks very classy.

I was kidding about the... 99 thing

Your wife isn't very bright is she...
Z3 spec is lower than Z10.
Z10 LTE is already in the range of RM600 now.

I think you are the one need to brighten your point of view. Not everyone shares the same opinion as yours.


Let me expound a little, spec is not necessary in blackberry world. Blackberry IS communication device. Blackberry is not so INTO intensive graphic game like RR3 or DH4, at least for now.
If I were to choose for the spec, obviously it would be iPhone or Note 3. Even Lenovo has quad core around RM700 range.

Specification wise, z3 is more than enough for normal usage. We are talking about girl usage,normal usage. You know how they use the phone? Facebook,whatsapp,sms and calling. The most game they ever play is Candy crush saga? There is no doubt that z10 spec is far better than z3, however, again , z3 is suffice for a girl usage if you study z3's specs.

I am the one suggesting her to get z3 as z3 is the latest model which contains the latest features and one of the only hope for Blackberry for resurrection. I am pretty sure they will go balls to the wall on z3.


note : I myself using s4 LTE i9505, ex user of blackberry torch 9810 and curve 9300.



Ps : I never noticed your post saying 99 until you mentioned. So, chill.

This post has been edited by noookiller: May 9 2014, 10:08 AM

Okay bro, erm..


I'm a Z10 STL-100-1 user myself.

Specs wise, the Z10 > Z3, except.. "size".

a) screen size (LOL)
b) battery size (LOL)

but otherwise, the Z10 is actually a good bet. If you're getting the 3G model (STL-100-1) which is a DIFFERENT CHIP (TI OMAP + PowerVR SGX544) vs the STL-100-2/3/4 models that run on Qualcomm MSM8960 Snapdragon S4 + Adreno 225.

I'm not so sure what is the advantage of Adreno 305 vs Adreno 225, but higher numbers = better right?


But the z3 comes with 5mp, and the z10 comes with 8. Not sure how big is the REAL world difference is.

But i'll advise you that if you buy the Z10, you really, really need to buy the battery bundle . The battery dries up real fast on the Z10. But with the newer software on 10.2.1 vs 10.0, it is a BIG world of difference. very big.

What I can guarantee is that the Z10 won't be losing out on the 10.3 update (unlike the previous generation of BlackBerry legacy devices, where if you buy the generation 6, you can't have generation 7 OS, etc)


I suggest you play around with a z3 first, then play around with a z10. For me, I solved my z10 with a powercase (very bulky), but a battery charger bundle is definitely much more preferable.


If only I can get the z30 battery bundle, it will be WORTH it!

Thanks man. Honest advice

Then I guess I will wait for z3. My wife is sure a witch if the battery kong very fast.

wow...good share thanks

Hoi, you gila already?
z30 is the best of the z breed
but you go and 'sell' z10 pulak. LOL

You explain so much also ....
Anyway thanks for the tips & support.

My z10 has a snapdragon which battery last around 3-4 days
Now with whatps, last around 24 hours, with hardly any use.
How did you get battery bundle? and what's the cost?

For those of you awaiting Jakarta,
Join the Indons...

http://www.bloomberg.com/video/why-indones...MxXbdCd8Yw.html
John Chen in Indonesia

some retailers already have it.

RM599-699

Not bad?

For real? That must be AP set?

I wud still go for z30.

AP probably.

But I've known (confirmed) that somebody brought in AP sets for RM750. SOLD OFF while in transit (it takes 3 days to arrive)

So stock arrived, people came and picked up their Z3s for RM750 cash and carry.

I need a replacement phone now as my current Samsung is in terrible shape, would you recommend the z3 as a temporary daily driver til the Q20 launches? I just need a good communicator+battery life+good GPS (my job requires me to travel a lot, outstation at times)

If you are in a real hurry, I will recommend you the Z10 instead. The Z3 , at the moment, imported price is around RM750.

Z10 (3G only) is about RM600. But if you can wait for 1-2 weeks, the stock will arrive in Malaysia, but even then I don't think the price is below RM600.

To sum up:

Why Z3:
Fits all what you asked for (communication, battery life, GPS is available)
Good battery life. (the z10 sucks, really sucks)
As good as the Z10, in some cases EVEN BETTER in single app performance.


Why Z10:
Better specs
may be cheaper than Z3 when Z3 is initially launched
slightly better specs for the same price range (2GB RAM, can have up to 8 active frames)



WARNING:
but GPS, the problem isn't with the hardware. The REAL problem is the maps. BlackBerry Maps is okay, Google Maps is also okay (need to download a 'special' edition, remove the dependency on Google services). I'm not sure what kind of detail you need, but if you only need Google Maps, and you're okay using the web browser version (which is kind of the same, really), should be okay. But you can still punch in coordinates, and it still tracks where you are reliably. Just that take the maps with a pinch of salt. As usual.

There are paid GPS apps, but if you already have them in your Android device, you can load them (unless they use Google Services)




If you already have the z3, have "SNAP" (an app to download from google play store), you can use this.

http://forums.crackberry.com/android-apps-...ervices-914930/

Basically you download the APK, put it into your computer/laptop, and it removes all GOOGLE APPS dependencies, and you have a fully functioning Google Maps on your BlackBerry Z3.


Hope that helps.

This post has been edited by hyperyouth_firepower: May 23 2014, 09:06 AM

Enough said.

cheers for the details man. Based on the info, I'm very likely going to wait for the z3, extra 700mAh is worth a few extra ringgit for me

750 still kinda steep, 500 to 600 should be okay.

Depends. Its not like BlackBerry doesn't want to sell it cheaper. Its the Malaysian customs and laws, and BlackBerry isn't the type to go around blatantly ignore rules and such. Especially Brightstar/Brightpoint.

yes agree with @Xirality, the price should never touch 700 n above, or its bye2 for blackberry to rise up again.

why would people bother buying, its only dual core procs n 1.2niggaherz somemore.
price vs specs ratio just aint balance for a 700rm price point.
come on la now is 2014 oledi.

By your logic iPhone should have failed miserably

Lowyat.net posted about Z3 is on SIRIM database, so it might come very near, maybe next month.. if they sell it same as Indonesia price, we can see it around RM650..

http://www.lowyat.net/2014/05/blackberry-z...soon-to-stores/

That same spec you're poo-pooing, can carry up to 2 OS. 2 OS, on top of a single microkernel.

If the release of the news (in dev circles a few days ago) is true, you can even add up to "apps from 3 platforms", supported by a single kernel, in an OS.


Not bad for a 'niggaherz'.


inb4

"ive got 8 cores, but YUNOSMOOTHGAMEXPERIENCEALLSUXXORZLAGZLIKETAIKLEMBUZOMFGWTFBBQ" complaints.

Besides, for the price range, its a terrific device. And for a dual core device, it has terrific support, sans Google Services (not that some google apps can't run, its just how you work your way around it)

@Cryptic : arent iphone is not doing that well recently?

@namh : haha dats way to go. rm6xx seems reasonable. will be in my list after it officially release locally

@hyperyouth_firepower : am not poopoing dat 1.2niggaherz, its just not suit for >700rm mark in my opinion, 1.5niggaherz is reasonable but not 1.2. dont mad at me. am just an old man who thinks phone should have higher basic specs in 2014 than years before. i see no reason why it should b more expensive than z10, thats all.

but it'll b selling around rm6xx anyway (if the prediction is correct as @namh posted), its a relief, so chill, z3 is a good phone in a good price.

That depends, on how BlackBerry can push the price down. I'm sure some tactics like "assembled in Malaysia / packed in Malaysia" will be used, so that there are tariffs that can be bypassed.

Yes, if they can keep below RM650, or below RM600, its even better. Even I want it to be below RM600, but I'm not really sure if its even possible. (but more than below RM600, I want it to be an offer that people cannot refuse).


in Indonesia, the buyers of Z3 are given free applications (catered to their local demands) that's totalling in excess of USD25. That's ONE QUARTER of the price of the phone.

Not bad, really. Not bad.

for a low spec phone, they control the biggest market share in terms of brand for the premium range of phones (price wise), and they have people lining up to pay good money for that over priced phone, together with a bloody overpriced storage space upgrade.

@hyperyouth_firepower : haha yes, hope it'll b as expected, but if theres too much drama, i'll just get the z10 instead.

@Cryptic : am not gonna judge. iP biggest since when, it 'was' biggest, but not now. my point is 2014 phone, i been surfing the net n saw dat iP6 is gonna equip wit quadcore. wheres the low spec same *? like i said we r in 2014 now, people are smarter now, technology is improving now, phone wit quadcore & 8niggabit internal is common nowadays. so if people like me looking or survey this humble z3 or any other low spec phone obviously we looking for a budget yet a good basic phone.
put iP aside, dont quote me or elaborate more about iP, not interested n dont give a dang about it. we r in blackberry thread anyway.

Up to this point, with exception of physical GPU and RAM (by which PowerVR SGX544 MP1 is the minimum (its as powerful as the first xbox) , I have not actually seen apps that says "requires dual core model xxyyzz to run".


This in comparison with the ultra liberal settings that many people are used to in Windows PCs .

Correct me if I'm wrong.
Google likes to track people (so that they can sell relevant ads)
Even Chrome will slow down over time. (DiGi recommends Opera)

Furthermore, Google Maps in Malaysia is not real time up to date live map.
The local law does not allow live map, which is good for security of nation.
Just look for a construction site and compare to it on Google Map.
Last I look Sunway South Quay is a flat land on Maps but in reality, roads are ready.

I avoid using apps that invite Google as I value privacy and avoid high data usage.
Beware of what you load onto your BB or else, just get an Android... Xiao Mi3 RM499 with Digi plan.

You are correct.

Google knows everything you do. It scans your emails, it knows what you like / don't like, even if you use incognito mode.

BlackBerry z3 available from 7 July, recommended retail price is RM699

http://bbugmy.com/news/news-blackberry-lau...z3-in-malaysia/

It is surprisingly a very good built. Some say, better built quality and feel than Z10.

Well, wait till we get 10.3.1 (that's for Z3 and Z10)

Then you'll be surprised how much better the Z3 is compared to the Z10, despite the 0.5GB RAM difference. But camera cannot do anything much. LOL

Agreed about the crappy camera. Haha..

I have been using BB since 2009 and currently on Bold 9000. I'm debating either Xiaomi or Motorola G. Would it be better buying the Z10 than Z3?

It is actually better to but the z3 compared to the z10. If you can wait for the z3 LTE version (not yet released) even better. Even for 3G only variant the z3 outperforms the z10 despite the 0.5Gb RAM difference. This is true when you consider the tuning in the10.3 OS (new and upcoming OS upgrade to BlackBerry 10 OS. )

However, the 5mp camera leaves to be desired. That is why in the LTE version, since the processor has to be upgraded to accommodate the LTE RADIO, it will and can accept a 8mp camera module into the phone.

Would the Z10 (LTE) be on par with Z3 (non-LTE)?

Why choose z10 LTE

- Removable battery
- 2GB RAM
- More apps for the screen size (somehow, but will be changed soon with 10.3, since all forms factors in screens will have adaptable variations)

Why choose z3 3G
- very good battery life
- better GPU
- more efficient CPU
- bigger screen size
- Natural sound (it's better than the z10 somehow, without speakers)

I own Moto G phone. Definitely a good phone eventhough it's a midrange phone. Better than midrange crappy samsung phone

Thank a lot for the tips. I will try both once Z3 is available in KK.

Saw the Z3 at Centre Point yesterday. Quite nice and bigger screen than Z10 and built quality is great and selling for RM 699.

It would be a hit if the shop put a notice regarding the Android apps ready with BB 10

Technically they can't. I'm not so sure the limitations, but technically we can't and its because of Malaysian lawsin advertisement.

What's the reason for it?

I the shop, each displayed demo unit has caption regarding the model, OS, memory etc. Don't think it is a problem to put Android App Ready too

Well technically BlackBerry doesn't run Android, so you cannot use a competitor's logo on your side, or anything trademarked to competition.

Just like DiGi and Maxis cannot diss each other, so they rename competition to "telco y, telco z, telco c" or something like that.

In BlackBerry's case I don't think they can do that about Android, since there are no legalities between BlackBerry and Android (Google), and Google does have its own KL office, which means Google will be fast and furious to sue BlackBerry for infringing on trademark use or something like that.

Hot sales in Indonesia, but dont think will be hot sales in MY, as in MY there is many cheap and competitive phone everywhere.

Anyone using this Z3 now? Opinions?

There are a lot of people in the BBUGMY chat group that's using the Z3. You can even head to the shops and play with the demo units. I think you'll love it.

if there is a z3 lte, i will wait and skip the z10

There is and there will be, but not sure when.

hi, consider this model, blackberry totally new for me, as i only iphone+ andriod user...

currently reading the blackberry for dummies that pinned at first page.

while reading. hope some sifu here can guide me

my budget 600 max to test out a new platform, you guys recommend me go for this z3 or get a 2nd hand unit? i think i will only test use for few months only and i also don mind 2nd used set. i jsut want to try out the latest blackberry experience . i use win7/8 , android , and ios. blackberry is the only area i nvr touch...

oh, my usage is only social apps like facebook, whatsapp, email gmail, company email, hotmail, take picture, dropbox, google map (not sure got or not) and listen to music.

camera quality is optional for me as i mostly still use iphone took picture.


all sugegstion are welcome and thanks.

Since you're on the RM600 budget threshold, go for the Z3.

The Z10 is good, but the newer updates are more skewed towards Z3 and the Z30.

The Z3's main weakness is its 5mp camera. Other than that, you can't say anything as a weakness, even with the 1.5GB RAM (500mb lesser)

Yup, surprised with such a low spec cam. User nowadays mostly uses phone cam to take casual pix; replacing compact cams. As such, anything lower than 8Mp is considered no good. 5Mp will take a lot of convincing to do.

If you're not in a REAL hurry, I'll suggest waiting for the Z3 LTE version. When its released, because it has better specs to accomodate the LTE chip (i'm not sure WHY exactly, but its kinda confirmed, at least on leaked OS's documentation) and so it'll actually accomodate better stuffs, like an upgraded RAM to 2GB, increased speed to 1.5GHz, and a 8mp camera (which right now, is unconfirmed either to be a Samsung unit or a Sony unit since there are drivers for both) to fit.

Of course it will be pricier than the current 3G version of Z3, but I'll say its worth it. Assuming that the current Z10/z30's 8MP camera is anything (its actually the same as the iPhone4S, but the software tuning is not as good) to say, its definitely STILL a better choice than the sensor in the current Z3 models.

Hi all, i just bought a BB Z3 and i use whatsapp n wechat quite a lot. So far, whatsapp is working fine but i have few problem for wechat.

Firstly, i can't restore the chat history from wechat server as there is no option for me in wechat native apps.

Secondly, the notifications for wechat is not working. I only can view the messages after open the app as other social apps like whatsapp is working fine.

So, can any situ here to advise me on solving the above problem. Thanks!

Are you using the native? try changing it to the Android version.

btw, the wechat native isn't really native, its just an android port that's super-out-of-date.

This post has been edited by hyperyouth_firepower: Jul 24 2014, 10:51 AM

if Z3 LTE has better spec.. than what's the diff between Z3 LTE and Z10 LTE? LOL

Wechat on Z10 is working fine, however I have not upgrade to the 10.2.....
Z3 already having problems... shucks.

Hi, thanks for your input. My problem solved. I downloaded the latest android version from wechat website, it works fine now. I managed to restore my chat history and the notifications will only work if let the wechat open in the background.

The BB native app for wechat really lousy, not so good compared to other platforms. Whatsapp is working fine though.

Now my BB keeps rebooting when open up wechat.
Wechat sux on BB OS10.

I just used wechat android version for few days, so far no issue except need to open it in the background to receive notification. Perhaps, you can try download android version from wechat website and see whether it could solve reboot problem.

How to d/load android version?


BTW, can you check in your Z3 keyboard, if can enter into next line
without using lots of spaces.
you know like type half way then
next line.

Sorry for late reply. Just go to wechat official website and look for what's new and click android version 5.3.1... it will lead you to the page. Then, click "Download the Installation Package", you are good to go.

You are right. There is no enter key on Z3 keyboard as well. So far, i only noted my wechat got enter key, the rest like whatsapp, text message, BBM, all don't have that key. It is replaced by the "Send" key...

Wechat got enter key? which part of the keyboard? between which keys?

Yup. WeChat got enter key. But i'm using android version WeChat. The enter key is on the right side of the last row of the keyboard. In other apps like whatsapp and BBM, that key is "Send" key, but in WeChat, it's "Enter" key.

I totally agree with your Z10 and Z3 comparison - I think the BlackBerry Z3 is more of a mid-range, affordable phone lah. If you are not too sure on making a big purchase, sometimes BlackBerry has some giveaways with blogs and websites like Amanz.my.

Actually, BlackBerry is also currently running a contest – if you already own a BlackBerry or knows someone who owns one you just have to take a picture of yourself with the BlackBerry and tell them (http://www.stopmissingout.my/) how BlackBerry “keeps you connected” and you stand a chance to spend a day out with some local celebs by going on shopping spree or even a foodie tour. Might want to check that out!

Thanks !
Really disappointed only wechat got enter key.

Run silly campaign like that, how to attract biz consumers... haiz.
No wonder BB in so bad shape.

Just toyed around with my new Asus Zenfone 5 (my mother bought one for me, since my Z10 is now sent for RMA/repair, and I have to thank the folks in BBUGMY.COM for helping me out), and I just realized that the Z3 is still a better alternative to the other Intel powered / Snapdragon 400 series in the 5.0 screen size frame.

Forget about the high end PPI, forget about the specs, the user experience is just different.

I wanted a unified, push-ready, actionable inbox. I can get that in Android, but I have to pay RM50, and I'm at the mercy of the developers. Why should I?

I have to pay extras just to get a BlackBerry-esque feature, and darn right I should have.

After all, a BlackBerry is for action, not reaction, not "put it later I'll view it on my laptop".

For whatsapp and test messaging, you can go to the setting of these 2 to turn off the "enter key is send" function. Once you turn it off, the enter key will be in the keyboard. For BBM, it seems can't change that yet.

z10 using Snapdragon.
Did you mean z3 offers better exp over z10?

Yup, found that.
Too bad on BB OS10 devices.
They could have use the shift key to alternate Send / Enter.

planning to buy a z3 for new experience,mostly use for phone call,whatsapp
,internet browsing.is it worth?

is that any cons,hope me back??

thanks for reply.

For new experience, yes
Con you around 600 or 700 only.
But when you go to Indo, you will be famous!

If you want to do browsing + phone calls + whatsapp, the Z3 is more than worth it.

THe only cons are the camera (which is a 5mp unit), and the 1.5GB RAM (which still makes it a good machine, I've got a 2GB Android, and I'm always only having 100-200mb free, dafuq?)

thanks for master suggest.now is waiting for budget approve....hehe

how about compare to zenfone 5?

Depends on what you want to compare.

If its camera, the Zenfone 5 (it has 8mp, and that actually-usable-low-light-camera) can shoot better.
Screen size should be the same.

Power? The Z3 win hands down. Ridiculous power management from the Zenfone 5, despite zenfone 5 having a slightly bigger battery.

USB OTG is only very recently (like less than a week) introduced to Zenfone 5. BlackBerry Z3 still doesn't have it (which is kind of moot, if you're only using the USB-OTG to read thumbdrives as Zenfone 5 and and BlackBerry Z3 actually can and will do hotswap of SD card, but eventually depend on the use case, since BlackBerry Z3 will have "BlackBerry Blend".

Android apps, as of 10.3.0.1052, works well, again, except if you need GAPPS.

In the end it depends on what you want. Do you want a BlackBerry, or do you want a full fledged Android experience? I've got both and I want a BlackBerry.

thanks for the reply,what is Blackberry Blend??software?

GAPPS is what ?

may i know,i can sysn my google contact to Z3?

should be possible, I sync my google contacts to my Q10

I see,than should be no problem.

Yes you can. It will be faster via WiFi. You may want to use apps to make sure you back up your contacts and all, since your phone acts as the slave for sync, not master, if you use Google Sync.

my z3 screen cracked....... how supposed to get sparepart....
at brighstar their quoted rm490 for lcd...huwaaaaaaaaaaa

see online sparepart from U.S...on rm 73.00 plus shipping 70....only 150...who can help me

me too.
have your repair your z3 now and how much?
Mind to share?