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spring onion	Oct 18 2014, 12:24 PM Return to original view \| Post #241
Regular Senior Member 1,087 posts Joined: Apr 2013	so everyone starting to buy again? inari chart is nice, but only during yesterday, so did skpetro i like how sellers pull their prices up...
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spring onion	Oct 22 2014, 03:05 PM Return to original view \| Post #242
Regular Senior Member 1,087 posts Joined: Apr 2013	QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 22 2014, 08:14 AM) RIP meh? so fast? This other statement in bold...... Here's a good exercise.... Use that on Homer.... LOL At what point did your own FA tell you to buy? At what point will your TA tell you to buy? Compare that to the stock price now.... See any difference? Would it have help... in the future if same situation happens again? And when the market was falling... what did you note? Did you note down which group of stocks was falling? And when market reverses... what did you note? QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 22 2014, 09:44 AM) So how come you bought above 80 sen? Did you see how low the stock went? The point is, you can throw all the MOS stuff, etc etc etc..... but in a falling market, the market will ignore everything.... and true enough, the stock fell below 70 sen. Will MOS help you buy at a better price? In my opinion, NO. It's always a NO for me. A stock can always be valuable... but when everyone is throwing the stock down.... the fundamental and the MOS goes out of the window... and the stock will trade lower. Stock buying is like hunting. You need to be patient before you go in for the kill. Remember, a wounded animal does not mean it's a 100% easy kill. Just like stocks... a cheap stock does not mean it's a 100% easy win. Be patience.... it's like a paradox leh. what you saying there is no sure way to earn money like that you buy it when you think it's low and it's good for both growth and dividend and it it's still fall, your dividend yield is not able to cover you loss, so it's still a lost then comes another 2nd situation: you still hold your cash well and wait for further support to be broken but however it bounce back so the only thing i can think of is that take inari for example. closes 2.05 at thursday, doji formed, reversal signal to buy? ok a clear cut that was a resistance broken from it if you look at 1-year chart so many will assume it's a support level, will it hold or waiting for another downfall? note: somebody just said 2.70 as it's intrinsic price note2: euro zone were in big trouble as all bad news were flying around and there comes the the dow beating the bear. next day. it traded in a gap up. so if you mentioned that support level is not a target price to buy, what you mean is to wait to break it's support only to buy? the next question to us that, what happens if US energy report turns out to be bad? it will be another blow to inari and other KLSE stocks as well This post has been edited by spring onion: Oct 22 2014, 03:07 PM
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spring onion	Oct 22 2014, 03:31 PM Return to original view \| Post #243
Regular Senior Member 1,087 posts Joined: Apr 2013	QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 22 2014, 03:26 PM) really a paradox mehhhh? Maybe I bad expressing my views.... Btw.... have you wonder why and when we come into such paradoxes? probably each of us has different target prices on every stocks your intrinsic value of inari maybe valued at 2.70 for me? Rm2 slower growth of electronics sector are coming soon btw
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spring onion	Oct 23 2014, 11:33 PM Return to original view \| Post #244
Regular Senior Member 1,087 posts Joined: Apr 2013	public bank, kulim and huayang are stocks to watch for tomorrow kulim shareholder gets 78 sen per share, however outlooks gloomy huayang quarter profit up Y-Y, public bank will tends to break it's downtrend after a better quarter This post has been edited by spring onion: Oct 23 2014, 11:36 PM
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spring onion	Oct 25 2014, 01:40 AM Return to original view \| Post #245
Regular Senior Member 1,087 posts Joined: Apr 2013	buy at 84 sen?, checked, 78 sen? checked, 74 sen?, checked wanted to load more at 68 sen... my heart started to wonder whether my mind is ok or not. placed order but cancelled - there is no use to chase a downtrend in the end, buying something else instead and it's not doing well currently. haha life is always against us
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spring onion	Oct 25 2014, 01:59 AM Return to original view \| Post #246
Regular Senior Member 1,087 posts Joined: Apr 2013	QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 24 2014, 11:40 AM) Have you always wonder why there are some people who always make money in a sharp correction? Big money too. Have you wonder why? ahh boon, why ah? cause they believe that market is irrelevant?
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spring onion	Oct 25 2014, 10:30 AM Return to original view \| Post #247
Regular Senior Member 1,087 posts Joined: Apr 2013	QUOTE(wenqing @ Oct 25 2014, 08:22 AM) Its normal bro. It need a lot of courage to press the button at 0.6+. Btw, nect week Q report out. If less than 3 sen dividend u can buy at 0.6 again.hahaha. LOL enough is enough. i believe there is still many potential markets out there. imagine 10% of outstanding share owned by the people that visit this thread frequent and regulatory. there are many silent readers here too. sooner or later we will bite each another, then someone will turns sour and shoot back at here. i wouldn't want to be such person QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 25 2014, 08:52 AM) Definitely not. Remember this recent quote la... What does it really mean? It means that one MUST AVOID being kiasu la.... STOP thinking BEING GREEDY WHEN EVERYONE IS AFRAID.... DON'T EVER RUSH TO BUY A FALLING STOCK!!!! the opportunity to buy will be there. BEING EARLY will most likely not help... cos the stock is falling and most likely going to fall more. Again..... look back.... at..... Inari. 2.80 people kiasu already. Saying.... walaehhhh........ this fantastic stock used to be 3.30 la wei.... 2.80 sure good discount liao! They rush to buy..... They see 2.60..... also rush to buy.... 2.40 come...... lagi buy..... 2.20??? legs weak already.... computer/laptops/ipads...... all closed.... some even delete them stock apps.... Not true? These are the folks that rush to buy....... Smart ones.... They wait. They don't even have to get at the lowest... Yup, they don't even bother to catch the low... Haiyaaa.... simply use la...... say they buy at 2.40. Now you compare.... Those that kept averaging down..... vs the patient ones...... what's the clear big difference??? even it's in 2.40, it would have possible to drop to rm2, making situation worst
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spring onion	Oct 25 2014, 10:44 AM Return to original view \| Post #248
Regular Senior Member 1,087 posts Joined: Apr 2013	QUOTE(wenqing @ Oct 25 2014, 10:36 AM) Hahaaha.Anyone interested on Huayang? My newly added counter in portfolio what price you managed to catch? Huayang if you notice well they only build in perak and johor, johor outlook is not very good at the moment. i prefer KL or penang landbank
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spring onion	Oct 25 2014, 11:29 AM Return to original view \| Post #249
Regular Senior Member 1,087 posts Joined: Apr 2013	QUOTE(wenqing @ Oct 25 2014, 11:03 AM) 2.1+ lor. But those on Kl and penang de already at sky price.... Although sky price de also can go to outer space price But I still prefer those with higher margin of safety. I aim very long time already huayang. Every year also got bonus issue and stable dividend. hmm what are their current dev? onesouth looks good. other than that, i am not sure about this. one thing about property stocks is that their earnings is not consistence and many are speculating their land bank value
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spring onion	Oct 25 2014, 01:32 PM Return to original view \| Post #250
Regular Senior Member 1,087 posts Joined: Apr 2013	QUOTE(wenqing @ Oct 25 2014, 11:36 AM) I estimate this year they will distribute 15 sen dividend which is about 6.3% at current price. i'm still waiting my salary to come end of this month, then i shall only decide. too much of buying and selling exchanging stocks already these few weeks. now wallet kosong haha QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 25 2014, 12:39 PM) Eh? The 2.40 is used as reference for one who bought the stock when it is rebounding. yeah. assuming the entry point of 2.40 after it drops to 2.20 on the older day
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spring onion	Oct 25 2014, 03:08 PM Return to original view \| Post #251
Regular Senior Member 1,087 posts Joined: Apr 2013	QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 25 2014, 02:58 PM) No. Buying 2.40 on the way up! ie after it has hit the lows. !!!! yaya, i got you. but suddenly in? would you be thinking it is a correction instead of a rebound? cause it is fundamentally intact and you're assuming that its a downtrend is broken?
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spring onion	Oct 25 2014, 11:45 PM Return to original view \| Post #252
Regular Senior Member 1,087 posts Joined: Apr 2013	at stagnant growth rm1, if a growth of 30% (safety margin is included) Y-Y, i would rate it at 1.15, but based on the current exchange rate - 1.30 is possible
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spring onion	Oct 28 2014, 01:03 AM Return to original view \| Post #253
Regular Senior Member 1,087 posts Joined: Apr 2013	QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 27 2014, 10:29 AM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Not important what I see laaaaaa............. Most important (always) is your own reasoning. Anyway, let me share some opinions la... First thing, it's a table of numbers and not diagram. jk la... ok... no more England lessons... for now. Second thing... you see 2009 numbers missing. So logically, what is the first thing you should ask? Is that table wrong? Why no numbers? What should you do? Check Bursa website and see why. Well if you check, you would realize that this stock got listed at that time... which means no 2009 numbers. Which also means 2010 numbers should NOT be taken seriously. Why? It's the first year as a listed company and most of the time, the numbers will be boosted by one time earnings and so forth.... Anyway, I do not know about others but I do not take the 2010 numbers seriously. If you take that out what do you see? Look at the column, profit attributed to shareholders. fy 2011 -- 10.811 million profit fy 2012 -- 14.700 million profit fy 2013 -- 15.118 milion profit ttm -- 22.005 million profit Now, you do not need to be an Albert here.... Just look at the numbers... What is it saying to you? Isn't the numbers increasing? If yes, it means the company's profits is increasing. Simple. No need to use any bs MOS nonsense to talk. Now what is TTM? TTM stands for Trailing Twelve Months. And the last twelve months, this stock's profit is at 22.005 million. And then you can double check. Last reported profit is for fy 2014. (FY stands for Fiscal year) Now the nine month total profit is at 17.614 million. When compared to the previous year's total (previous year total is 9.954 million), the nine month profit showed a GROWTH OF 76.95%. ok? bro, every stocks will reach a growth limit where growth will not be that great anymore, is not saying that i'm not believing the statistics, but rather to put a safe margin into account. ok ok talk about other stock ok? fitters this joker after got it's bonus unit issue the price did plunge down alot. now will sbccorp follows it's path? interested to see sbccorp movement before and after releasing their bonus share in your opinion, should we buy a share before or after bonus/split?
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spring onion	Oct 29 2014, 12:05 AM Return to original view \| Post #254
Regular Senior Member 1,087 posts Joined: Apr 2013	QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 28 2014, 06:06 AM) 1) Yes, it's ok to use a lower estimate but all I am showing is the current stats and yes, not all growth will last forever. However with the company due to report it's last quarter profits for the year and current 3 quarters profit already more than 76 percent, for it to achieve just 30 percent growth for the year, for this to happen, you are implying a very serious decline in Q4 profit numbers. Whwn this happen (and I don't think you would want it to happen, the stock should see a huge decline in stock price! 2) If you are interested you should also look at Censot. Case same. Stock fell after the so called free warrants. 3) I don't know. Bonus do not add value to a stock but it can create some positive vibes on it. hi boon, 1st of all, the profit for 2013-08-31 accountable for more than 40% profit for year 2013 and 30% for profit of TTM which this quarter profit might be slightly lower if revenue stays or flat if revenue increase due to forex. a forecast of slightly lower margin will affect the TTM profits, making it lower then before. so your 76% also cannot follow blindly lah my opinion only, feel free to shoot about bonus issue, dilution of share is understandable, but how come people still chase after bonus issue announcement?
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spring onion	Oct 31 2014, 08:37 PM Return to original view \| Post #255
Regular Senior Member 1,087 posts Joined: Apr 2013	QUOTE(SpeechLess11 @ Oct 31 2014, 07:34 PM) report out, and the result average only so it was around 30% profit increase year to year. still within my expectation. cheers to all next quarter will be a surprise 1
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spring onion	Nov 1 2014, 09:10 PM Return to original view \| Post #256
Regular Senior Member 1,087 posts Joined: Apr 2013	QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 1 2014, 08:06 PM) Sure got..................... wah can share what you got
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spring onion	Nov 2 2014, 10:27 PM Return to original view \| Post #257
Regular Senior Member 1,087 posts Joined: Apr 2013	QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Nov 2 2014, 10:19 PM) market in bull... i don't think is a good time to enter dividend stocks... wait for a small crisis... i think good time to enter lo... bursa ok ma.. so many punters nowadays... sure earn a lot still worth to chase growth stock at the moment? since japan and euro govt start their business buying just a small needle will make a bubble go burst... which needle would it be? China GDP? Ebola outbreak? looks like it doesn't stop the market anyway
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