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andrekua2
post Jun 5 2014, 10:57 AM

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I really dont understand why WZSATU not being issued UMA.
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post Jun 23 2014, 11:57 PM

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QUOTE(billy_overheat @ Jun 23 2014, 03:32 PM)
Finally have some times to sit down after a few hectic weeks. Done with one liners!

Wanna share some of my paper tradings and as newbs, I have so many questions to ask. Please slam me and wake me up, and lastly, lead me to the light.  tongue.gif

I've been keeping an eye on ioicorp, 1961 since last year (just some suggestions from my dad for me to watch) especially when the price of CPO hiked. After getting all the advices from the sifus over here, boon said "do paper trading." So, voila, I've "paper" bought ioicorp at the price of 4.140 (10 lots only, be realistic with my pocket) on 24/1/2014. (I wish I did buy it. tongue.gif)

Several reasons to like
1) Funds are back supporting it. (kwsp, kwp, asb and blablabla)
2) well established company
3) okok divvy from 0.17 in 2008 to 0.155 in 2013 (dropping sweat.gif )
4) qtr PPE was raising from 1,678mil to 1,946mil during the period of sept to dec 2013
5) a few searches did indicate ioicorp will have increasing FFB and CPO yield
6) and of course, price hike of cpo

Several reasons to dislike
1) fluctuating revenue
2) considered expensive for me
3) weather to cause CPO price to go up and down.
4) lesser young trees (after reading gark's posts)

those reasons seem innocent wey, newbs, bear with me and teach me like your kid.  laugh.gif

Didn't really expect it to raise that much till now, 5.220. Which means, if I sell it, I've earned 25%+- in 6 months time.

Will it continue to grow? or it's fully valued?

many said not to be married the stocks, many said hold it as long as possible. Will it grow again? Will it drop?

I don't mind to hold it because that's the money which supposed to lay only in the bank. However, if I'm looking for capital growth, I should trade? Paper earning/paper losing is nothing till the moment I click the sell button.

Therefore, all sifus, shed some lights to the very newbs.  wub.gif
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I dont like IOI too for its excessive valuation but there are a few more worse. I think people are betting towards the future with the likes of JTIASA for example.


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post Jun 24 2014, 08:43 AM

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QUOTE(billy_overheat @ Jun 24 2014, 08:37 AM)
Indeed yeah. JT does have a lots of young trees. Currently I'm trying to dig things about plantations and Gark is the pro in this field. Where is he?  laugh.gif
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The thing is would you field a whole team of unproven youngsters or stick with the proven one while trying to inject some new blood now and then?

JTIASA is definitely crazily overvalued. Really cant understand what those research papers talking about the potential when the yeild is actually that much lower than they expected. When will the fruit ripe?
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post Jul 3 2014, 10:28 AM

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Wah, this thread so cold liao ah...

Anyway, where is gark...

His beloved CSL is burning like hell... when he will drive his fire engine and come rescue fellow Malaysians trapped in the fire?
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post Jul 4 2014, 09:54 PM

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QUOTE(spring onion @ Jul 4 2014, 08:50 PM)
hi all sifus here, PMcorp, a good buy?
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PM or MP?
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post Jul 7 2014, 10:48 AM

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Depends on your appetite for risk really.

From my brother's BIL, they are betting on OCK securing some solar power generation contract which is why the price flew from RM1 to 1.4x

Of course, in Malaysia, the power of imagination always beats reality.
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post Jul 8 2014, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 8 2014, 07:58 AM)
btw.... I think I better say this....

I am more inclined to think Ah Homer price of 160 is most likely difficult to reach.

Market doesn't want to likey furniture business.....

so take care hor..........
ps: me and ah gark talked about Ah Homer when it was around 65 sen.

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Easy...

Just burn them all down and claim insurance instead. Instant millionaires.
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post Jul 10 2014, 04:49 PM

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QUOTE(jonchai @ Jul 10 2014, 11:40 AM)
E&O, naik naik naik
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Long time no see...

Pigi mana? Tengok World Cup di Brazil?
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post Jul 10 2014, 08:07 PM

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QUOTE(jonchai @ Jul 10 2014, 08:05 PM)
QUOTE(andrekua2)
Long time no see...

Pigi mana? Tengok World Cup di Brazil?
I sendiri jadi freezer stock biggrin.gif

No choice lo, have to jadi kuli, no time come here talk 3 talk 4 .... Mainly talk 3 with Boon brows.gif
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Trading company where got kuli one?
Only sorhai who keep inventories like us kena. shakehead.gif
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post Jul 10 2014, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(jonchai @ Jul 10 2014, 08:08 PM)
Have to fly around to monitor cargo loading.

Recently also moved into power generation industry. Look after projects haha.
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LoL
Cargo loading also need to monitor?

Last time my boss also fly there monitor. Only lasted for 2-3 months. Chinaman very tricky. Monitor also got QC problem.

Naik pangkat la... Project manager.

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post Jul 14 2014, 09:42 AM

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Malaysia really a lot of fairy tale... from PN17 to becoming gems the next day.

Malaysia really got so many magician? Stone become gem?
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post Jul 16 2014, 07:58 PM

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QUOTE(jonchai @ Jul 16 2014, 07:50 PM)
No cash to follow titi o  cry.gif

My own TP is 3.5. Once hit, no care, cut and go. More than 30% liao  brows.gif
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Good wor...

Still waiting for mine to bear fruit... I love 'tak laku' stocks...
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post Jul 16 2014, 11:01 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 16 2014, 09:19 PM)
Why, why, why..... like so much NTA????

NTA can be so misleading....

( and since it can be misleading, I really don't depend on this silly yardstick)

Sometimes when market is hot, you see some unscrupulous folks using this yardstick to sell the stock.
And most of the time, it is done when the said stock doesn't have much earnings to show for.  tongue.gif

Back to property stocks.

Simple REAL example....

Let me ask you. LOL!
Which property stock .....
got plenty, plenty and plenty of land ( = high NTA)
but then ....
the company very conservative....
one year (maybe two) only do one housing project........
which means....
despite great balance sheet ( tons of cash), huge landbank ..... but lousy profit.

Worth investing?
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Hmm... Is it Tropicana?
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post Jul 17 2014, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(spring onion @ Jul 17 2014, 11:15 PM)
boon, buying based catalysis might be slow as many speculator will whack up the stock before the official news is out, so still good to chase a stock even it's has been goreng by them? long term gain is still not an issue ( although lower margin expected ) but how about short term like 3-6 months?

btw, malton, looks like 1.10 is a major resistance, if break 1.12 possible to limit up? cause i don't see any catalyst like elsoft leh rclxub.gif

btw, hevea is looking good ya. in my 555 list now. let's see how far can it go brows.gif
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Malton looks nice ah? I bought 90c and sold 113c some time ago. I think Q3 is disappointing but property stock got season one.

Pantech now going to challenge 115... Quite steady. Not quite sure what the future holds though.
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post Jul 18 2014, 01:34 AM

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QUOTE(CP88 @ Jul 18 2014, 01:29 AM)
MAS = Mana Ada Safety.  sweat.gif
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Masih Ada Survivors?
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post Jul 18 2014, 07:20 AM

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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Jul 18 2014, 07:17 AM)
Sell sell sell... bursa exp drop 1-4%

Mas drop 30%
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10 cents?
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post Jul 18 2014, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(topearn @ Jul 18 2014, 09:41 AM)
A sea of red now....528 counters down and only 68 up.
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Recovering slightly...

I think those looking for bargain in MAS already gave up and start buying elsewhere.
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post Jul 22 2014, 09:09 AM

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I dont know why PetDag can rally so much. In fact, it was not attractive at all even when it was around RM18. I took a look when they announce a big divvy last time. It has been going up nonstop ever since the divvy announcement.
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post Jul 23 2014, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(spring onion @ Jul 23 2014, 08:28 AM)
malton is interesting to watch today
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Apahal?

Cup and handle? brows.gif
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post Jul 24 2014, 09:12 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 24 2014, 09:06 AM)
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Yup, nowadays many, many write-ups are written with half baked facts and plenty of garbage .....
Stock is then fried deep deep....

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Writer is then crowned stock goddess. doh.gif

Geng!

Some PE more than 50.
Some PE more than 100.
Some no PE cos losing money.

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No PE never mind... they use Net ASS.

LOL!
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I tot you said GODLIKE PE = LAKU... laugh.gif laugh.gif

Anyway,

Property stock really goreng too much lately.

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