On the fence on whether to get Silverstreak. Hmm.

The action / CGI for TF4:AOE was top notched. Michael Bay may be doing a good job at redesigning the character and their origins, but the main complaint are the plot hole(s) -- alot of them. I can give a few examples (Beware of Spoiler for those who haven't seen it)

Plot Hole 1


Plot Hole 2


Plot Hole 3


I'm sure other members can find other plot holes as well.

This post has been edited by VDread: Jun 30 2014, 01:34 PM

It's already in TRU Malaysia, I think a few days after the official launch of the AOE ToyLine. It's more expensive than the US TRU version tho, as US TRU sells it for USD60, while TRU Malaysia is selling at an increased price of RM499.90.

Hmmm. The TakaraTomy version (with collectors coin and exclusive shoulder cannon) currently retails for RM200.

And I thought TRU Malaysia retailed the MP Prowl for RM399.95? I think the TRU you went to mislabelled the price, as I heard there was a TRU in Penang that immediately fixed the price once another collector informed them of this.

But if you're happy with the figure, who am I to stand in the way of your happiness Enjoy the Prowl bro!

This post has been edited by VDread: Jun 30 2014, 02:33 PM

RM180 for the PO MP Prowl, TakaraTomy version -- which can be found for RM200 nowadays.
The Hasbro MP Prowl when released was RM399.95, but some TRU stick RM429.95 (weird?).

Both the TakTom and Hasbro versions are the same, only packaged differently.

TakTom was packaged in alt mode, with some buyers getting the exclusive shoulder cannon and collector coin.
Hasbro packaged it robot mode, with only a gun. No coin, no shoulder cannon.

1. Grimlock created the Technobots, which in combined form is Computron.
2. Grimlock stopped the Primacron creation, Tornedron.
3. The Dinobots were the Autobots heavy hitters in the early seasons of the G1 cartoon, and can hold their own against Devastator (the 1st G1 combiner).
4. All the Dinobots can speak, and have frequent banter with each other.
5. Grimlock has the signature "Me, Grimlock..." dialogue. He was not a Dinobot with its vocabulary limited to only grunting and puffing.
6. The Dinobots were given significant origin backstory, not captives in a ship then suddenly let loose.
7. In Bot mode, all the Dinobots towered over Optimus Prime, and were each stronger than Prime.

Hahaha. Ok. Will stop there

My point is : Dinobots in the G1 series is not as insignificant as you say they are in the G1 series.

Separately, Bay's reimagination of the Dinobots is fine (design, transformation is CGI perfection) -- it's the plot holes that leaves much to be desired.

Could've given an explanation on who were the 'Ancient Knights' and how are they similar to the current Transformers (transformable, captured by Lockdown etc). Bay gave such an explanation on how the Sun Eater Machine was built on Earth by The Fallen in ROTF, why wasn't this done to at least plug the holes in AOE?



This post has been edited by VDread: Jul 1 2014, 01:18 PM

With OP granting the Ancient Knights 'freedom' at the end, I'm not so sure if they'll make a come back. I hope they will.

But I could be wrong.

Still doesnt excuse the huge plot holes in the movie. TF1, ROTF and DOTM had plot holes, but not as big as the ones in AOE.

I understand Bay is basically 'rebooting' the whole TF franchise. But a movie with plot holes just -- spoils it I guess.

Things happening unexplained, things happening for no reason. That's my pet peeve about TF:AOE.

It's like when I was watching XMen : Days of Future Past and realised : "Hey, with this interference in time, all the other movies save for First Class is non-existent / non-concern"

This post has been edited by VDread: Jul 1 2014, 03:36 PM

For those collecting MP figures from TakTom, just need your confirmation on the collector's coin.

I think all of my MP coins is stamped 'Hasbro' instead of 'TakaraTomy' on the coin card.

Is this the same case for you guys as well?

Next question is : if Hasbro is the party manufacturing / distributing the coins, is there any reason why Hasbro doesnt include it in their MP releases?

Thanks in advance for any reply

Not sure if you can still find him, but my personal opinion is TakTom's MP Prowl is the best looking of the Datsun bunch, simply because he is a police car But you should be able to find MP Smokescreen and Silverstreak, together with its collector coin, easily in the open market at reasonable price. Buy at a reputable toy shop to avoid KO.

For the Lambo mould, the difference on the packaging for KO is subtle, as the packaged box was 'changed' to look authentic when people realised how to differentiate. Early KO version had Japanese picture description missing, but newer batch had rectified this.

If KO is a big concern, you can source the original MP12G (Black Lambo, G2 Sideswipe) at reputable shops for around RM200-240. The red MP12 Sideswipe however is scalped at very high price, that you might as well wait for the rumoured reissue coming next year (or is it end of this year).

This post has been edited by VDread: Jul 6 2014, 07:26 AM

Haha. Yes, the box is Nissan. Sorry for the confusion caused, as I call them the 'Datsun Bros'.

Silverstreak for RM200 + collector's coin is OK. I may skip Silverstreak as I already have Bluestreak.

MP-18 Bluestreak, the 2nd of the Fairlady of mould (the order they were released - MP-17 Prowl, MP-18 Bluestreak, MP-19 Smokescreen, MP-18S Silverstreak)




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I own one (TakTom version). In all honesty, the quality is much better than the Lamborghini moulds (better alt mode door fitment). Transformation is a bit tricky when it comes to the legs.

My minor complaint is on the tab / peg where the robot head rests. Its a tiny piece of plastic that I fear if transformed a lot might break.

Paint wise, it is a better than MP12 Sideswipe (at least on the one I own).

Huargh. MP18S. Still not sure whether to get it or not. My wife will kill me if I add a repainted Bot'!

Nice pics bro tnsai!

Don't forget Fanstoys Quakewave (Shockwave) as well. That one is a beast!

As for my MP-11 Coronation, my biggest gripe is the 'tail wings', always seem to pop of from its hinges at the slightest pressure applied. During transformation, I just pop both of so I dont damage them.

In bot mode, there is a bit of difficulty to make mine stand, as the 'sliding body' transformation where the cockpit folds in tends to get unhinged easily (those who have should understand) and freely move up/down. Either that or I transformed it wrong. Haha

As for stand, I bought the KO MP-3 stand and it fits well with MP-11 for both Bot and Alt mode.

Jet mode wise, MP-11 from the top looks solid, with a few neat gimmick (the wind deflectors, the landing gear etc). But from the bottom, the Bot mode is quite apparent to those who thoroughly examine it.

I pose my MP-11 together with HFTD Leader Class Starscream at times. Nice perspective of classic and modern

This post has been edited by VDread: Jul 8 2014, 11:18 AM

MP-11 has no stand, and no missiles.

If my memory serves me right:-

MP-3 mould is used for Starscream (MP-3, released by both TakTom and Hasbro), Skywarp (MP-6, released by both TakTom and Hasbro) and Thundercracker (MP-7).

For MP-11, the mould was used for Starscream (MP-11), Sunstorm (MP-11S), Thundercracker (Hasbro release) and Acid Storm (Hasbro release).