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English Clubs Liverpool Kop Talk 2014, Liv 0-2 Chel | Keep Going - YNWA

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prophetjul
post Apr 28 2014, 08:50 AM

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QUOTE(whitesabre @ Apr 28 2014, 08:46 AM)
True. They parked 10 players. Remember JM once said lower teams used to park the buses around the 25 yards? LOL now he's part of it, but kudos to them. Our defense made huge blunders. The first goal was contributed by Gerrard indeed, but where's the defenders? Skrtel and Sakho were too high up. They should be down below. Rodgers play pressing game too much, leaving the backyard completely empty. Mignolet was poor in 1-on-1. The first goal was the killer.

The second goal was pure nervous breakdown. Gerrard going for every long shot possible. That's what you call desperate move. Liverpool should have contented with a draw instead of running around like a mad team. Play pure passing and search for a draw. Instead, Sterling ran too much in the 1st half, ended slower in the second. Henderson's energy is totally missed here.
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Forget the 2nd goal. Not significant as the game was already lost.

On another forum one mentioned: why did we play as if WE HAD TO WIN?

We could have sat back..maybe we WERE too gung ho........again ON HIND sight
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post Apr 28 2014, 08:57 AM

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QUOTE(Burningsunz @ Apr 28 2014, 08:56 AM)
we can play for a draw. but thats not what Liverpool FC is about..we went out there to win, especially when its at anfield..and BR certainly would like to win it against his master
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you are not reading right.

I said we played AS IF WE HAD TO WIN.

Different
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post Apr 28 2014, 09:15 AM

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Those who Hendo would have made a difference, I seek to beg to differ.

Hendo is a ball winner.......we had 73% possession!
we didn't need him to win balls yesterday.

We needed someone to hug those lines and go through the back.
A proper line hugger eg Navas type.
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post Apr 28 2014, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(twtang @ Apr 28 2014, 09:36 AM)
I was wondering, is it normally for goalie to charge out? How about standing in front of goal post to wait like saving a penalty, would it be higher chance to save?
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Obviously you don't play footie. biggrin.gif

If you stayed on yer line, its like facing a peno.

If you come out, you close the angles of the shot coming in. Therefore a striker will tend to slip in between the keepers legs.
Bear in mind, these are TALL keepers, not short stuff like us! biggrin.gif
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post Apr 28 2014, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(PPZ @ Apr 28 2014, 09:43 AM)
is it an excuse or a fact that he didn't admit defeat?
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Its a FACT....Chelsea's bench is almost more expensive than our 1st 11!

Fact we win our last 2 , we are ahead of them on the table.

Fact: if that happens, its a FAILURE for the club who spent so much on mercenary players
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post Apr 28 2014, 04:12 PM

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10 players who hardly venture across the 30 yard line?

26% POSSESSION.

How much was it to assemble these players?

Masterclass, my FOOT!

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post Apr 29 2014, 08:20 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 28 2014, 04:18 PM)
It is a perfect tactical deployed, and justified too.

Prior the match, Liv was on red hot form, winning 11 on the string, always outscoring opponent to win matches, and the match was at Anfield, as opponent manager, what is your choice?
Park the bus or buses and hit on the break, score through set piece, corner, penalty, mistake done by opponent.

I don't understand why so many criticism on Chelsea parking bus. Even before the match start, everyone already predict bus being parked there.

You need to have cutting edge to slice open the bus if want to be champion. 

So the better team in term of strategy and tactic deployed won last night, end of story. 

Weaken team, is just another mind game on top of the tactic already planned.
Let opponent off guard, while justify the "ugly" defensive approach.
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I think we criticise because Mou was the one who criticise these sort of tactics and called them football killers?

Whatta HYPROcrite of the highest order!

As if we didn't know that already! biggrin.gif
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post Apr 29 2014, 09:18 AM

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QUOTE(imin @ Apr 29 2014, 09:15 AM)
yup.. this is the reason many liverpool fan detest mou. tactically what he did to nullify liverpool was brilliant.. the only problem is he's the one who previously said such tactic was anti-football
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ah yes.....word was 'anti football'.

So Mou is anti football...... biggrin.gif

Hes a BUS driver! biggrin.gif
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post Apr 29 2014, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(mugenz @ Apr 29 2014, 09:21 AM)
bus driver with an "arse" attitude.
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Most drivers have that attitude.

Mou is not new as a Bus Driver!
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post Apr 29 2014, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(Ichighost @ Apr 29 2014, 11:44 AM)
words..cant really describe what happened.

you must see the game..

west ham sat there with no intention to counter attack or do anything..just simply sat there and kick all the ball away.

its different with defend + counter attack on every opportunity.

west ham refuse to play at all.

I dont mind labeling us this or that..but using the words that Mou said out of context..just invalid.
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Allo...........setting 10 (TEN) players from the end touchline to the 25 yard box isn't exactly attackin? laugh.gif
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post Apr 29 2014, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(Ichighost @ Apr 29 2014, 02:19 PM)
yes..but we also COUNTER attack..we not dominate..but we do attack your camp.
Counter? With Ba at half way line? biggrin.gif

Surely you can play football........what with a team assembled at > 150mil only play 1/4 of the football field laugh.gif


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post Apr 29 2014, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Apr 29 2014, 03:01 PM)
No one's saying a defensive game doesnt exist...

we're just saying its no 'masterclass' tactic.

And again, I've repeated myself countless of times... Kalas and Ivanovic were rock solid.
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Never seen a 'TOP' team play with 10 players worth around 150m at the 25 yd line limit! laugh.gif

Mou will play 10 goalkeepers in front of goal if he can methinks! laugh.gif

I differ from you. their 10 defenders were solid. laugh.gif

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post Apr 29 2014, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(Ichighost @ Apr 29 2014, 03:09 PM)
come on..we attack more than just that okay.. blush.gif
respect the home side  tongue.gif play 1/4 only lah hahaha
Its not respect............ANTI FOOTBALL from a HYPOcrite of the highest order nod.gif

ALL very plasticky..........donchathink?
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QUOTE(wadefak @ Apr 29 2014, 03:15 PM)
are you  mad.gif
or  yawn.gif
or high? laugh.gif
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ALL the ABOVE! laugh.gif

Imagine you are Chelsea owner paying Mou 10mil a year salary and see your 150mil team playing at the 25 yard line! doh.gif

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post Apr 29 2014, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(Ichighost @ Apr 29 2014, 03:21 PM)
well..up to you if you insist on it..

Carlo using the same tactic at Real, much much expensive squad than us..play the same way..ur call mate..

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They don't play with 10 players up to the 25 yd line.......... you see Bale and Ronaldo at the 25 yd line Defending? biggrin.gif

And their play is much more expansive than yours, to say the least.

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post Apr 29 2014, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(reehdus @ Apr 29 2014, 03:24 PM)
I think what most of us including me are annoyed with is not the fact that a defensive tactic exists. We're well aware there is such a thing. It's just the extent of the strategy applied by Mourinho. He played it like it was a cup game, and was waiting to get us back on his home turf.

And I guess the irony is that we played it like a cup game too. A knockout one.
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Mou played as if he was managing Cardiff.
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post Apr 29 2014, 03:32 PM

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"The club on top at Christmas will go on to win the PL"

Hopefully..........there are still a few twists and turns before the final day.
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QUOTE(wts6819 @ Apr 29 2014, 03:36 PM)
Is it just me or that Suarez is not big game player? Last match can see clearly that he keep falling and crying asking for foul. Me no like such player. Look at Aguero, never give up or die.
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its just you......... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Apr 29 2014, 03:38 PM)
The only time a football fan will accept negative football and time wasting tactics is when it's used by the club they support, simple as. We won stuff under Houllier but I wasn't a fan of his football.
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I can fathom using this tactic in a 2 leg cup away game. In a PL game as a 'top' club??? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(moodswingfella @ Apr 29 2014, 03:43 PM)
U seems worried more about JM bus tactic rather than our failure to break their defence?
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Actually cant stand Mou and his HYPOcritical stance.

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