Have you actually see the video, or you just skip totally and commented above?

So you're saying you got your Salvation by your act of repentance? In other words, it depends on your effort now.


No that's not my question.

Here it is again.

If Jesus Christ has cleansed the believer of all unrighteousness and sin, what does that makes him? Still a sinner?

It shows that you didn't see the video at all, predictable paranoia.

See it one time at least then come tell me the content.

responses of your effort. You're saving yourself.

Until you answer, no here it is again, seems like it's very hard for you to acknowledge that the work of Christ is Finished.

You don't seem to accept what Christ has done.

If Jesus Christ has cleansed the believer of all unrighteousness and sin, what does that makes him? Still a sinner?

That's the problem, you don't see it in totality, just bits of here and there and your paranoia takes over.

And you conclude like the rest of the clue less critics.

Back to the Old Testament way of Salvation I see.

Your repentance becomes your own effort, warranted under the Old Covenant.

Under New Covenant,

. 8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9 not by works, so that no one can boast.

Since you want to talk so much about obedience and repentance.

Tell me, how did the lost coin or the lost sheep repented?

I'm sure you are familiar with that passage.

I don't think the Bible refers speaking in tongues as the tongues of angels,

In the most layman understanding, it's a language understood by God uttered in the vowels of the Holy Spirit.

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Luke 15

The Parable of the Lost Sheep

1 Now the tax collectors and sinners were all gathering around to hear Jesus. 2 But the Pharisees and the teachers of the law muttered, “This man welcomes sinners and eats with them.”

3 Then Jesus told them this parable: 4“Suppose one of you has a hundred sheep and loses one of them. Doesn’t he leave the ninety-nine in the open country and go after the lost sheep until he finds it? 5 And when he finds it, he joyfully puts it on his shoulders 6 and goes home. Then he calls his friends and neighbors together and says, ‘Rejoice with me; I have found my lost sheep.’ 7I tell you that in the same way there will be more rejoicing in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who do not need to repent.

The Parable of the Lost Coin

8“Or suppose a woman has ten silver coins and loses one. Doesn’t she light a lamp, sweep the house and search carefully until she finds it? 9And when she finds it, she calls her friends and neighbors together and says, ‘Rejoice with me; I have found my lost coin.’ 10 In the same way, I tell you, there is rejoicing in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner who repents.”

How did both of them repented?

No I don't think it's referring to tongues of angel, I know you are referring to Acts.

1 Corinthians 13:1, it's a demonstration, an example of a saying, it can be examples of anything, not just tongues of angels.

That's what I'm asking you. How did the lost sheep repented, how did the lost coin repented because in both parables, it is mentioned there,

there will be more rejoicing in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who do not need to repent.

Yes I do and I'm trying to illustrate here about Salvation and repentance with these 2 parables.

ermmm no not mentioned there baaa or clinked.

I believe his message is based on Romans 8


26 In the same way, the Spirit helps us in our weakness. We do not know what we ought to pray for, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us through wordless groans. 27 And he who searches our hearts knows the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for God’s people in accordance with the will of God.

The subject of repentance is on the coin and lost sheep.

But who is the Hero of the whole Parable?

Let me see.

1. God is the one who search
2. God is the one who left behind the 99
3. God is the one who found the lost one
4. God is the one who carried the lost one on the shoulder
5. God is the one who calls the neighbours and friends and ask them to rejoice with him (throw a party)


In all these what did the lost sheep or lost coin do in repentance?

All they did was to be consented to be found and to be carried by God. Let Him be the Saviour.

God is a gentleman, If you reject Him, He will oblige but if you consent for Him to carry you, He will.

Salvation is all about what God did as expounded by these 2 parables! And you think it's really about your obedience and your repentance that gives you Salvation?

God gave you Salvation because He is good! not because we are. What makes you think your obedience or repentance warrants it?

Which He explain why; sometime we can pray the wrong prayer with underlying selfish motive in tongues of Man.

Praying in the Spirit is better because as in that verse explains, the Spirit prays according to the Will of God. And God listens according to his will.

That is the context.

What makes you think I'm not for repentance? Seriously in all my days in this forum?

Have you ever seen me encouraging people to sin?

Is your paranoia that gives me trouble not my interpretation.

What did I just post Romans 8:26-27 for?

That's because you have problem acknowledging the answer to this question.

If Jesus Christ has cleansed the believer of all unrighteousness and sin, what does that makes him? Still a sinner?

You can't even open your mouth to say it.

Unless you're telling me prayer is not important and isn't one of the key to a spirit filled life. Seriously!

Just answer my question and I'll tell you.

you refuse to answer, we'll go into another merry go round. Simple.