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post Oct 20 2014, 12:45 PM

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Who is your daddy?

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Romans 8:15 (NIV) The Spirit you received does not make you slaves, so that you live in fear again; rather, the Spirit you received brought about your adoption to sonship. And by him we cry, "Abba, Father."


If you still think God as God. And if you still think He is waiting to judge you and punish you and you're a Christian, guess what?

You have this slavish fear(cowering fear) about God which is the type of Fear in the Old Testament. You have not receive the Light of the New Testament Grace.

If you're a Christian and you still come to God like a Sinner or as a sinner, confessing your sins all the time, you are blinded to the Gospel of God's grace.

If you still think that we must exhibit this "Fear" and still think God is all about obedience, judgement and punishment, you are still under the bondage of the Old Testament.

No wonder your prayers are never answered. No wonder you always feel there's a distance between you and God. No wonder you are get angry all the time, you get angry thinking that it's "righteously indignant over scripture accuracy, doctrine or whatever False teacher or prophets" All these are symptoms that you've never know who God is. Why? Because that is how it is with the Pharisees, Teachers of the Law, the High Priests.

Despite of their hypocrisy but they're angry when somebody tries to go against Scripture. And they persecute those who does so.


According to Romans 8:15, the Spirit you receive which is the Holy Spirit does not make you fear God. Why? What happened to the fear of God?
Would you like Jesus's definition of what is the fear of God?

In the 40 days temptation of Jesus vs Satan, when Satan tempted Jesus to bow down and worship Him, Jesus answered Him:

“It is written: ‘Worship the Lord your God and serve him only."

But when you look at the foot note of this verse it refers to Deuteronomy 6:13 which is where Jesus was quoting. But in Deuteronomy 6:13 it says NIV: Fear the LORD your God, serve him only and take your oaths in his name.

Jesus defined that fear into Worshiping God. It is no longer that fear where there is dark clouds and thunder at the foot of mount Sinai where even if an animal touches the base of the mountain it will die.


What about God being God? Yes He is God and in the Old Testament God is known by many Names, Jehovah, El Shaddai, Elohim, Adonai, Yahweh, The Great I AM, Almighty God, etc.
but Jesus came to reveal God as the Father in the New Testament and not by any other Names of God. Why?

Because when you see Him as "God" there is a distance. Like He is God almighty in Heaven and you're just a Man/Woman on earth.

But when you see Him as "Abba" or "Daddy" there is intimacy like Father to a Son or Daughter. And this is the divine Truth, That Jesus came to reveal. Many Christians missed this revelation. Either missed it or ignored it because it seem too good to be true. I've never experience it much, so I don't see Him as a Father, more like "God".

That is how little Jewish children address their Father, You'll hear "Abba, Abba" calling their dads in adoration and imagine their father coming and holding them up high, Smiling in Love.
That is how our Heavenly Father is. Do you remember how Jesus touch or embrace children brought to Him?

What about confessing Sins all the time?
Listen carefully.

In Hebrews 9:14 (NIV) - How much more, then, will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself unblemished to God, cleanse our consciences from acts that lead to death, so that we may serve the living God!

If you have eyes to see and ears to hear, understand this verse. It means that God does not want you to be sin conscious all the time but to have a debt free conscious that you have been cleansed ALL THE TIME, 24/7! (eternal)

IF what the first Adam is so powerful, that no matter what good you do, you cannot erase your sins, Don't tell me what the Last Adam did is inferior. I'll say this again.
IF what the first Adam is so powerful, that no matter what good you do, you cannot erase your sins, Don't tell me what the Last Adam did is inferior to what the first Adam did. Don't tell me the blood of Christ is on the same level as the First Adam which is bound by the Old Testament way of cleansing which is temporal forgiveness. Search the Scripture, there is no such thing!

THE BLOOD OF CHRIST IS ETERNAL! It is ONCE AND FOR ALL. That is why the Bible says very clearly, Christ died only once, He is not going to come again and again to be crucified over very single sin you've committed or just committed or will commit. Understand this revelation. The Grace of Christ which is deeper than the deepest ocean.

Jesus the Last Adam is GREATER than the first Adam. Why? Because God exalted Him to be our High Priest in the order of Melchizedek FOREVER! (Hebrews 6:20). What is the role of the High Priest? He is to bring in and offer the sacrificial lamb to God on behalf of the people for their sins. And The word there forever in Hebrews 6:20 means eternal ramification of our Sins! This means our Salvation is Eternal! You cannot undo your own Salvation because you have never earn it by your effort in the first place! When you understand how good, our Heavenly Father is, You will know He is truly Abba! God the Father who loves you.

Instead of confessing your sins all the time, you should be confessing like this:

Abba in Heaven, I thank you for sending your Son Jesus Christ to die at the cross for my sins. though I may have weakness, My eyes are upon what your Son did for me, That I am the Righteousness of God in Christ, I am saved not because of my doing but what Christ did for me.

When you keep confessing like that, it is Faith upon the truth of What Christ did at the cross which is eternal ramification and the Holy Spirit goes into action. He will bring you out of your bondage to sin Faster than you can ever trust in the Law of the 10 commandment could.

What about obedience, judgement and punishment?

Listen.

Christianity is not about don't do this or don't touch that (Law). It's about living in the newness of the Spirit. Against such things there are no laws. (Galatians 5:23) You are no longer under Law! Christ came to set you free and abolished the Law that bounded you. (Romans 8:2 & 1 Corinthians 15:56)

Colossians 2:14 says it like this: Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; (KJV)

Blotting out means removing. Handwritten ordinances here refers to the 10 commandments. How? Because only the 10 commandments are written by the fingers of God. Those who says that the 10 commandments is still in effect for Christians, I say you don't read your Bible that well.

In other words, God himself remove the Law of the OT and nailed it at the cross. Why? Because Christ paid for it and only Christ fulfilled every claims of the Law of God for you! If anyone preaches that as a Christian you are still to be punished for your sins! I say he is not preaching the right Gospel according scripture! If God has removed your sin and the blood of his son is for your chastisement, Nobody has the right to condemn to inflict messages of condemnation on you! It is God who justify, who dare undo What God has justify you with and make light of the punishment of his son who gives you ETERNAL cleansing? This is where the Church has missed it. This is what it means by do not grieve the Holy Spirit! Many people have abused and misusing the phrase do not Grieve the Holy Spirit in judging his brothers and sisters. I say this to your shame!

So dear Friends. How do you see God? Still as God or as your Father in Heaven who loves you?

Try and Address Him as a Father and see the difference in your prayer today. Understand that the Gospel is about the Grace of Christ, revealing the Love of the Father.

God Bless.

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post Oct 20 2014, 05:31 PM

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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Oct 20 2014, 05:28 PM)
Paul wrote 13-14 books wo. Paul might look like serious, no-nonsense guy, direct but I believe he is also got other good quality like loving and encouraging too. For example 1 Co 13 and whenever he start his letter he usually start with encouragement to the church brothers and sisters although after that he taruk kaw kaw also on their sins (ie Corinth church) but out of love la  biggrin.gif
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Actually he also got a sense of humor if you know where to look for it. tongue.gif
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post Oct 20 2014, 07:26 PM

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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Oct 20 2014, 07:09 PM)
All these temporary spiritual gift has ceased liao. I wonder faith is  hmm.gif

Anyway, if you continue to read it at chapter 13:

1 Corinthians 13 New International Version (NIV)

13 If I speak in the tongues[a] of men or of angels, but do not have love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. 2 If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing. 3 If I give all I possess to the poor and give over my body to hardship that I may boast, but do not have love, I gain nothing.

4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.

8 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease ; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. 9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10 but when completeness comes, what is in part disappears. 11 When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put the ways of childhood behind me. 12 For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.

13 And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.
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Actually what it means is that if you don't practise the gifting with Love, it's effect ceased.

It's not saying the gifting has totally ceased at all.

God still work miracles today. And God uses the vessels of Man as his channel.

If you say that the gifting has ceased you are indirectly also is saying God has stop working miracles.

And I'm sure you know it in the spirit, that is not true.

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post Oct 20 2014, 07:33 PM

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QUOTE(myway1985 @ Oct 20 2014, 06:38 PM)
Very challenging day... I at least lost faith in Jesus for 2 times becoz of my daughter situation.... all the promises nothing seem to happen.. she still sick... I will call for house cleansing tomolo de...

n this yr oso is a super challenging yr... izzit becoz the end time is near n our Lord r too busy preparing room for us....
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I have this burden to pray for your daughter. I will pray according to the stirring of God's spirit.

You must understand there are opposing forces in the spiritual realm, that opposes your Faith.

God never intended this for your daughter. The enemy does.

This world is a fallen world, you must pray and don't give up hope.

God moves when we pray. When we don't pray, the enemy still stand opposing you.

You have to pray and believe. I've made that mistake before thinking that everything will be alright, just like that. No.

God taught me, MUST pray, don't take this for granted.

our Father in Heaven loves you and your daughter.



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post Oct 20 2014, 07:45 PM

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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Oct 20 2014, 05:39 PM)
Got ah? where? share it  biggrin.gif  thumbup.gif

Gal 6: 11 ? biggrin.gif See what large letters I use as I write to you with my own hand!
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lol, that's one.

I don't know I just find this funny

Galatians 5:12 - As for those agitators, I wish they would go the whole way and emasculate themselves!



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post Oct 20 2014, 08:24 PM

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QUOTE(eaglehelang @ Oct 20 2014, 08:16 PM)
Haha, I guessed the same one as yours  biggrin.gif
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post Oct 20 2014, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(sylar111 @ Oct 20 2014, 08:26 PM)
Why do I need to people to like me?

You see, not many people like Jesus at that time as well.
After all, Jesus was crucified by his own people.

Does that mean that we do not follow him?

If people like me, then there is something wrong with me. Because that means my views are no different then the world's view.

You see, none of your views can be supported by the bible. The only thing that you have is man's praises. Similar to the pharaisees. You see the pharaisees love man's praises more then God's praises.

Everything you say contradicts God's word. Dun forget. Jesus is actually the Word of God.
John 1:14.

That is why I keep on asking which God do you follow? Are you really following the God of the bible?
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Sylar, you may want to have a look at this.

Galatians 5:13-15 INIV)

13 You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the flesh ; rather, serve one another humbly in love. 14 For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: “Love your neighbour as yourself.” 15 If you bite and devour each other, watch out or you will be destroyed by each other.

And

Galatians 5:22-26 (NIV)

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law. 24 Now those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.

25 If we live by the Spirit, let us also walk by the Spirit. 26 Let us not become boastful, challenging one another, envying one another.

I need to ask you, since you challenged de1929 and de_luffy about following Christ, are you in tuned with this?

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post Oct 21 2014, 01:39 PM

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How Many times must Christ die?

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Hebrews 9:26 (NIV) Otherwise Christ would have had to suffer many times since the creation of the world. But he has appeared once for all at the culmination of the ages to do away with sin by the sacrifice of himself.
The answer is only Once and the Bible says Once for all.
It can never be repeated.

But what is the effect? Is it temporal ramification like the offerings of Bulls and Goats like in the old testament?
Is it temporal until your next sins? Is it temporal based on your knowledge of sins and is it temporal based on your act of righteousness?

The answer is No. Otherwise Christ would have had to suffer many times since the creation of the world as in the explanation of the words in Hebrews 9:26.

Let us tackle one by one according to scripture.

Does the blood of Christ offers temporal redemption?
Meaning to Say that, it covers only until your next sin?

The Answer is No;

Hebrews 9:12
He did not enter by means of the blood of goats and calves; but he entered the Most Holy Place once for all by his own blood, thus obtaining eternal redemption.
Eternal means it's always cleansing, 24/7 eternal redemption.

Is it based on our knowledge of sins? Some people say you have to confess every single you've ever committed otherwise you ain't going to Heaven. Sounds familiar in the Christian circle right?
Search the scripture, you will find no such statement in the Bible. What does the Bible says?

Ephesians 1:7-10
In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, in accordance with the riches of God's grace that he lavished on us. With all wisdom and understanding, he made known to us the mystery of his will according to his good pleasure, which he purposed in Christ, to be put into effect when the times reach their fulfillment--to bring unity to all things in heaven and on earth under Christ.

Look and see and understand it is not according to your knowledge but according to God's Rich GRACE, God's Wisdom and understanding and God's GOOD pleasure. All according to God not of you. Why? Because God the father knows, if it's according to you, it's not secure but if it's according to God's wisdom and understand IT IS ETERNAL security! Hallelujah!

When Jesus died at the cross, He echoed this truth statement. Watch this now, this is going to be powerful and a blessing and GREAT revelation for you.

He says this:"Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing." Jesus put ALL OF US under the redemption of sins of ignorance. I say this again. Jesus put ALL OF US under the redemption of sins of ignorance. Under the old covenant Law, anyone who sins in ignorant, the Priest shall make atonement before God on behalf of the sinner. The sinner have lay his hand on the head of the unblemished sacrifice and when the sacrifice is consumed in the fire, the divine exchange take place. The unblemished or purity of the sacrifice goes to the sinner, the sin of the sinner goes into the sacrifice. That is the Old Covenant.

Under the New Covenant. Who is our priest? or shall I say who is our High Priest? Who is our Sacrificial Lamb?

The word of the Living God declares:

Hebrews 7:17

“You are a priest forever,
in the order of Melchizedek.”a

Why is this important?

The following verse explains it clearly:

22 Because of this oath, Jesus has become the guarantor of a better covenant.

23 Now there have been many of those priests, since death prevented them from continuing in office; 24 but because Jesus lives forever, he has a permanent priesthood. 25Therefore he is able to save completely those who come to God through him, because he always lives to intercede for them.

Do you see the word there guarantee? What does guarantee means? Think about it. God himself guaranteeing our Salvation. When the son sets you free you are free indeed! When God guarantees it is unshakable!

And more than that, Because Jesus has permanent priest hood in the order of Mezhizedek, He is able to gives you eternal redemption = eternal Salvation = eternal Security!

All according to scripture! What a revelation!


Is it based on our acts of Righteousness?

No. What does the Bible says?

Romans 5:19 (NIV) says

For just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous.
Who is that One Man? Our Lord Jesus Christ! What is the context? Righteousness!

What is the relevance? Justification for Salvation.

So in conclusion. Is our Salvation Secured? The answer is yes. Why?

Because it is God himself who guarentees it, He provides it according to God's Rich GRACE, God's Wisdom and understanding and God's GOOD pleasure. He is the one who provided the perfect and sinless Sacrificial Lamb (our Lord Jesus). He is the eternal High Priest permanent. Permanent here means permanently able to SAVE!
And according to our Lord's obedience we ARE MADE RIGHTEOUS!

All of and about God nothing about us.

HALLELUJAH!


God Bless.

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post Oct 21 2014, 03:08 PM

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This is not RWI le for goodness sake.
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post Oct 21 2014, 03:39 PM

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Guys, we should use the word of God to build each other up and not tear each other down.


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post Oct 21 2014, 04:04 PM

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Guys

Sylar111
de1929
De_Luffy

Can I request all of you, put a stop to this?

If we are tearing each other here. Who gets the glory?

Can you take 1 step back and think why this is happening?

Why Allow the devil to work through any of you?

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post Oct 21 2014, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(De_Luffy @ Oct 21 2014, 04:07 PM)
oh ok, this is first time i heard such thing smile.gif
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Satan and his forces knows the Bible very well and he uses the word of God to condemn and accuse the believers.

The moment any Christians is fooled into accepting that condemnation, it open doors for attack.

I'm seeing the same thing happening here.
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QUOTE(pehkay @ Oct 21 2014, 04:13 PM)
Yeah, but the most interesting testimony I heard was when a brother visited this case (it was referred by a group of brothers there) ....

He knew Jessie Penn Lewis's testimony or that she picked up the principle from the Brethren, demon extremely hated the fact, "that Christ came in the flesh".

So he began to ask the demon on Christ coming in the flesh and asking it to declare it.

That really revealed its true face, and the person possessed, changed from a "gentlemen-tally" personae into a violent one .... Though I can't remember how it was cast out.

Anyway, an interesting story.

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Yes, because that is liberation and Salvation for the believers. They hate that very much.
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post Oct 21 2014, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Oct 21 2014, 04:27 PM)
Why so much intense fighting le?
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That's why le. They should ask themselves, that includes Mr Jul.
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Oct 21 2014, 04:29 PM)
Only when Truth is compromised.
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Truth is on the side of Grace.

We access it via Faith.

One moment you agree that Salvation is God's Grace alone then you contradict yourself saying why no effort required from us.

Do you see the contradiction?


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QUOTE(De_Luffy @ Oct 21 2014, 04:33 PM)
nobody is referring to you, would you MIND TO Stop this mindless attack against everyone? you have anger problem go for counseling!
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I was wondering who is trying to kill him. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(sylar111 @ Oct 21 2014, 04:34 PM)
De Luffy, if you think he was not saying that against me, you are very naive.
But then this is not surprising at all.
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Ok lah let say if He's saying that against you.

Which part? Can we all know?
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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Oct 21 2014, 04:40 PM)
Ephesians 4
26 “In your anger do not sin”[d]: Do not let the sun go down while you are still angry, 27 and do not give the devil a foothold. 28 Anyone who has been stealing must steal no longer, but must work, doing something useful with their own hands, that they may have something to share with those in need.

29 Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen. 30 And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, with whom you were sealed for the day of redemption. 31 Get rid of all bitterness, rage and anger, brawling and slander, along with every form of malice. 32 Be kind and compassionate to one another, forgiving each other, just as in Christ God forgave you.

Ephesians 6 - The Armor of God
10 Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. 11 Put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes. 12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. 13 Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand. 14 Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place, 15 and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace. 16 In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. 17 Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.

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Already said that in Post #2567

haha beat u to it. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(de1929 @ Oct 21 2014, 04:39 PM)
Mr jul, allow me to share what i think UW has in his mind. Because UW and I mostly has same point of view.

UW talks legal point of view. Once saved always saved. my wife always my wife unless divorced.

But there is also relationship point of view. must be build every day. every week i have to date my wife just to rekindle our love.
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Exercising our Faith is in a way building up the relationship.

You got a point there.

Unless I reject my wife and wants divorce .....something like I reject you Christ as my savior.

Then there's a case for being lost.
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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Oct 21 2014, 04:44 PM)
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I just demonstrated Fellowship should be like this.

Here is the place to rest and unwind. Joke a bit, laugh a bit.

not devour each other.

Right or not, Steve?

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