QUOTE(sylar111 @ Oct 14 2014, 03:33 PM)
Your obsession with Law and Grace really amaze me.
All of your interpretations seem to be based on this.
In fact, so obsessed is your view on Law and Grace that you are willing to attack anyone who differs with you in this aspect.
The phrase which refers to peter as a stone is
16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
The rock talks about Christ.
Most likely Peter(Small stone) talks about him as part of the body of Christ and also perheps he will play an important role as a leader since he recognized Christ.
There is nothing that states that Peter was anyhow related to law or legalism. In fact, just looking at the character of Peter, you will find that he tends to be a little bit reckless. Which is very different from legalism. Recklessness is generally the opposite to legalism.
Yes, it was being revealed to Peter that Jesus was the Christ. But then for most jews at that time, their understanding of Christ is one that comes in and save them from the oppression of Rome. What Jesus was narrating was different from the understanding of Peter and most of the disciples out there.
The verse after that.
24 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.
25 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.
26 For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?
27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.
Shows very clearly shows that being Christ followers now but espacially during that time was not going to be easy. It's not about the physical kingdom. It's about a future kingdom.
Peter was just being reckless when he interrupted Jesus because he did not understand the purpose of Christ first coming and also he could not
There are many prophecies that actually states that the Messiah will come and establish a Kingdom in Israel. But that will be fulfilled in the second coming.
The Jews were awaiting for such a messiah.
You are resorting to symbolism to over emphasize your theology. That's the wrong approach to things.
Don't misunderstand. I wasn't attacking your point, just giving you additional insight. All of your interpretations seem to be based on this.
In fact, so obsessed is your view on Law and Grace that you are willing to attack anyone who differs with you in this aspect.
The phrase which refers to peter as a stone is
16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
The rock talks about Christ.
Most likely Peter(Small stone) talks about him as part of the body of Christ and also perheps he will play an important role as a leader since he recognized Christ.
There is nothing that states that Peter was anyhow related to law or legalism. In fact, just looking at the character of Peter, you will find that he tends to be a little bit reckless. Which is very different from legalism. Recklessness is generally the opposite to legalism.
Yes, it was being revealed to Peter that Jesus was the Christ. But then for most jews at that time, their understanding of Christ is one that comes in and save them from the oppression of Rome. What Jesus was narrating was different from the understanding of Peter and most of the disciples out there.
The verse after that.
24 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.
25 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.
26 For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?
27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.
Shows very clearly shows that being Christ followers now but espacially during that time was not going to be easy. It's not about the physical kingdom. It's about a future kingdom.
Peter was just being reckless when he interrupted Jesus because he did not understand the purpose of Christ first coming and also he could not
There are many prophecies that actually states that the Messiah will come and establish a Kingdom in Israel. But that will be fulfilled in the second coming.
The Jews were awaiting for such a messiah.
You are resorting to symbolism to over emphasize your theology. That's the wrong approach to things.
What gives you that idea anyway?
The Bible has many life application from multiple angle.
I'll tell you why I say Peter is a type of Christian under the Law.
Remember about Peter's denial of the Lord?
What happened?
Jesus said, all the disciples will fall away on account of Him (Matthew 26:21)
And Peter boasted "Even if all fall away on account of you, I never will." (Matthew 26:33)
And Peter said this in front of all the disciples!
That is like saying, God I will obey you! Even all these other disciples can't!
And we all now what happened next. He betrayed Jesus with cursing and swearing some more.
What is the lesson behind this?
He typifies the type of Believers today who boast of their own obedience to God.
Lord I will obey you even to the very ends of the earth. Be careful when you boast as such, you'll find it hard to complete it just like Peter.
This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Oct 14 2014, 03:54 PM
Oct 14 2014, 03:51 PM

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